remember in an interview she laughed off Madonna as not have listened to her since 7th grade?? I find that statement funny so funny now...since Mariah has lowered her standards to do reality tv...dresses like an 18 yr old prostitute.. has to join another has-been to go out on tour, knowing there's no way she could ever fill an arena... Face it MC...the younger artists today are saying they use to listen to you when they were in 7th grade! lol

IamBryan said:

remember in an interview she laughed off Madonna as not have listened to her since 7th grade?? I find that statement funny so funny now...since Mariah has lowered her standards to do reality tv...dresses like an 18 yr old prostitute.. has to join another has-been to go out on tour, knowing there's no way she could ever fill an arena... Face it MC...the younger artists today are saying they use to listen to you when they were in 7th grade! lol

thing is madonna worldwide was still bigger than mariah .... and madonna was still selling and selling out dates at mariahs age ... poor pariah

VANITYBONET said:

IamBryan said:

remember in an interview she laughed off Madonna as not have listened to her since 7th grade?? I find that statement funny so funny now...since Mariah has lowered her standards to do reality tv...dresses like an 18 yr old prostitute.. has to join another has-been to go out on tour, knowing there's no way she could ever fill an arena... Face it MC...the younger artists today are saying they use to listen to you when they were in 7th grade! lol

thing is madonna worldwide was still bigger than mariah .... and madonna was still selling and selling out dates at mariahs age ... poor pariah

And still is. Madonna has the edge and it factor and doesnt care what people think about her. Mariah is still image heavy driven. May be going through the pre-mid life crisis but I think she will get over herself years to come.

IamBryan said:

mancabdriver said:

IamBryan said:

remember in an interview she laughed off Madonna as not have listened to her since 7th grade?? I find that statement funny so funny now...since Mariah has lowered her standards to do reality tv...dresses like an 18 yr old prostitute.. has to join another has-been to go out on tour, knowing there's no way she could ever fill an arena... Face it MC...the younger artists today are saying they use to listen to you when they were in 7th grade! lol

Woah! Let's put this one sided thread into perspective. Mariah was replying to M's comment that 'she'd rather die than listen to Mariah's music' if bitch can't take it then she shouldn't give it. And she wonders years later why her peers never supported her during her career. Both dress like mutton dressed as lamb lately.

The whole phrase mutton dressed as lamb needs to be eliminated from our vocabulary. Why should your age define how you are allowed to dress?

I think the difference is Mariah started out doing ballads and dressing quite conservatively and covered up.

Whereas Madonna has always been Madonna. She has always been a sexual performer who does dance/electronic music. I get it that people have a problem with her continuing to being herself as she gets older and want her to basically stop being who she is and change into a totally different person that they feel is somehow "age appropriate". But she is who she is.

But I guess Mariah at the beginning was being controlled and told what to do by Tommy Mottola. So maybe we didn't see the real her at the beginning. Wheareas Madonna has always been much more in control of her own sound and image.

Glindathegood said:

mancabdriver said:

IamBryan said: Woah! Let's put this one sided thread into perspective. Mariah was replying to M's comment that 'she'd rather die than listen to Mariah's music' if bitch can't take it then she shouldn't give it. And she wonders years later why her peers never supported her during her career. Both dress like mutton dressed as lamb lately.

The whole phrase mutton dressed as lamb needs to be eliminated from our vocabulary. Why should your age define how you are allowed to dress?

I think the difference is Mariah started out doing ballads and dressing quite conservatively and covered up.

Whereas Madonna has always been Madonna. She has always been a sexual performer who does dance/electronic music. I get it that people have a problem with her continuing to being herself as she gets older and want her to basically stop being who she is and change into a totally different person that they feel is somehow "age appropriate". But she is who she is.

But I guess Mariah at the beginning was being controlled and told what to do by Tommy Mottola. So maybe we didn't see the real her at the beginning. Wheareas Madonna has always been much more in control of her own sound and image.

The Focus of Mariah early on was and rightly so her voice and that was the talk no matter where she went and topic of all her interviews. Whether she was being controlled or not if she had come out doing material that did not showcase her voice and the focus of her was her looks (but lets be real Mariah wore mini skirts from day one, her body was that of a 20 year old and not enhanced in areas yet) The mind set was still to not push sex like that especially with someone that had more to offer. I feel Mariah's change was natural to what was going on at the time too in the industry. Everything was becoming about collabos and remixes, etc...and she wanted to get into that more and not be this ballad singer all the time. I mean so the discussion as we moved into this decade with Mariah has become her looks and decline in her singing and voice so whether it is her intention to be more sexy now to cover it or she is just saying im in my 40's and I can be hot still.