I am making this thread to discuss Janet's baby news, but also to document a dream. I had a dream this morning that Janet had already had her baby on December 15. In the dream, she was limping w/ a cane, but fine. Just a side effect of all the weight she'd gained, but she would be okay. We were going out to get a bite to eat, and Tito or someone was with her trying to baby her. Of course, Janet was all "I'm fine, can we just go eat?!"

I'm sure she's due to pop that thing any minute now. But if it's December 15, I'ma shit a brick. haha

By the way, she had on horrible boots. They were wedge heels, and the leather from the boot came down over the heel, and was frayed near the bottom. And they were some horrible maroon color. LOL

Well I'm reading some stories that she wants to have an at-home water birth, and the gender is rumored to be a girl. She's due later this month.

TrivialPursuit said:

Well I'm reading some stories that she wants to have an at-home water birth, and the gender is rumored to be a girl. She's due later this month.

Hopefully, the baby won't come two weeks overdue like in my case. I would think she wouldn't be wearing heels at all at this point.

Janet already had the baby

mjscarousal said:

Janet already had the baby

She did? Where's the info? Sex? Weight? Pix?

mjscarousal said:

Janet already had the baby

That is possible, especially with the alleged leak of the gender of the baby. I would hope we'll know one way or the other by month's end.

purplethunder3121 said:

mjscarousal said:

Janet already had the baby

She did? Where's the info? Sex? Weight? Pix?

Now as private as Janet is, do you think she would let me take a photo?

TrivialPursuit said:

mjscarousal said:

Janet already had the baby

That is possible, especially with the alleged leak of the gender of the baby. I would hope we'll know one way or the other by month's end.

It was reported that she was going to have the baby in mid November. She already had it.

It's so obvious she's had it already, and extra news items we've heard about it are a distraction.

alphastreet said:

It's so obvious she's had it already, and extra news items we've heard about it are a distraction.

I'd like to see something good come out of 2016...

This would make her the first major star to shatter a record of keeping a baby hidden well, as well as marriages And for those who believe the secret baby rumours, the one to have the longest record

i dont think she had the baby yet. when jimmy was asked about her due date he said something about her having a happy new years. somebody on twitter claim to have seen her last week at toys r us in london and she was still pregnant. also gil is way too calm, he usually gives off hints and ive been in his live instagram with him drinking and having a good time, he spoke about janet but gave no indication the baby was born. i think she's due this month.

Why is Janet out and about? She should be resting. I still think she already had the baby.

mjscarousal said:

^^ Okay back to facts or something tangible... someone mentioned how Gil's social media changes slightly when something big happens w/ Janet. The 16th he tweeted that "the crew got bigger". It was to some girl, I don't know who she is. Just some "omg lol" between them. Not sure if that's indicative of Janet's baby, but ...maybe.

nextedition said:

mjscarousal said:

Now as private as Janet is, do you think she would let me take a photo?

So you just made it up?

No It was already reported back in October that Janet was due around mid November. Its quite obvious that Janet already had the baby. If Janet hid a 10 year marriage without letting anyone know, its foolish for anyone here to think that any of her colleagues would publicly allude to that especially if she wanted to keep it private.

alphastreet said:

It's so obvious she's had it already, and extra news items we've heard about it are a distraction.

I agree, Janet had the baby already and her last tweet to the fans IMO was a way of letting everyone know that she and the baby are okay. Janet is very elusive and private, a true fan knows you have to read in between the lines with her. I am happy that her and the baby are well and when she gets ready she will show the baby publicly.

mjscarousal said:

No It was already reported back in October that Janet was due around mid November. Its quite obvious that Janet already had the baby. If Janet hid a 10 year marriage without letting anyone know, its foolish for anyone here to think that any of her colleagues would publicly allude to that especially if she wanted to keep it private.

How is it obvious? Has anyone seen her since around Thanksgiving until now, at all?

Her marriage wasn't that hidden. The media acted surprised by it but, during the Jack Gordon years, LaToya was spilling that tea for years. When MJ was going through his mess, LaToya was still running her mouth, but one thing she'd say as she was going on talk shows was "Oh, Janet and Rene have been married." Granted, not everyone picked up on things she said, because a lot of what she said was scandalous and puppeteered by Jack Gordon. But - she knew, and a lot of us knew.

She might have had the baby. I always read her due date was this month, not November. I'm sure she'll drop the truth when she's ready.

TrivialPursuit said:

mjscarousal said:

No It was already reported back in October that Janet was due around mid November. Its quite obvious that Janet already had the baby. If Janet hid a 10 year marriage without letting anyone know, its foolish for anyone here to think that any of her colleagues would publicly allude to that especially if she wanted to keep it private.

How is it obvious? Has anyone seen her since around Thanksgiving until now, at all?

Her marriage wasn't that hidden. The media acted surprised by it but, during the Jack Gordon years, LaToya was spilling that tea for years. When MJ was going through his mess, LaToya was still running her mouth, but one thing she'd say as she was going on talk shows was "Oh, Janet and Rene have been married." Granted, not everyone picked up on things she said, because a lot of what she said was scandalous and puppeteered by Jack Gordon. But - she knew, and a lot of us knew.

She might have had the baby. I always read her due date was this month, not November. I'm sure she'll drop the truth when she's ready.

Gurl Janet kept a 10 year marriage private, period. We found out when Rene filed for divorce!

Many reports said it was mid November but your free to think what you want! Ultimately as you said, Janet will reveal the news when she is ready. My point was Janet is private and elusive and if she wants to keep something private, she will. When Janet is ready to be open with her personal life, she will. She has always been private about her personal life even during her commercial peak.

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mjscarousal said:

Janet kept a 10 year marriage private, period. We found out when Rene filed for divorce!

Janet might have tried to keep it secret, but LaToya didn't, and she didn't lie. Sis don't lie. This was like 1994 or whenever MJ had his mess w/ the first set of allegations. She was interviewed left & right, and whenever Janet came up, she'd say Janet and Rene were married. So - secret not well kept overall. You might have found out when the divorce was filed, but a lot of us already knew. The divorce was a bigger surprise than the marriage to me.

TrivialPursuit said:

mjscarousal said:

Janet kept a 10 year marriage private, period. We found out when Rene filed for divorce!

Janet might have tried to keep it secret, but LaToya didn't, and she didn't lie. Sis don't lie. This was like 1994 or whenever MJ had his mess w/ the first set of allegations. She was interviewed left & right, and whenever Janet came up, she'd say Janet and Rene were married. So - secret not well kept overall. You might have found out when the divorce was filed, but a lot of us already knew. The divorce was a bigger surprise than the marriage to me.

Are you really making a debate out of this?

It is widely accepted and historically noted that Janet kept a 10 year marriage hidden.... period. She never talked about marriage or marrying Rene and always denied of possibly getting married or engagement during that period. Nobody was believing crazy La Toya backed during that time period. She said a lot of off the wall things for attention. She said that Joe molested her c'mon now nobody wasn't paying her no mind. Just like Janet kept her marriage to Wissam a secret until reports came out that she was getting engaged and then she finally came out and said she had already married Wissam the year prior.

I heard that she wasn't due til late January. Anyway its gonna be great news

Chile, Janet done had the baby and it's at home doing the Stanky Leg!

mjscarousal said:

thesoulbrother said:

BlackCat1985 said:

Lmao! Latoya was telling everybody's business but her own. I remember she had a hotline for questions about the family and everything. Jack Gordan was the one making her do most of it but I got a feeling a part of Latoya liked putting her family on blast. As for Janet I go back and forth. One minute I say yes she done had that baby and is back home chillin'. But then I see news that people are seeing her walking around in London still pregnant. Sign!!!!!

Jack Gordon was the shit slime excretes after a night out.

People can say Janet tried to keep her marriage a secret, but LaToya didn't. So it's apples & oranges. Janet didn't say boo about it, but LaToya said "BOO MOTHERFUCKER" repeatedly. I knew they were married. And it's horrible that Jack Gordon tried to use information that to rape that family in every way possible to make a buck. He was abusive, power hungry, and I'd not be surprised if it came out he also molested children (I've never heard that, just sayin' it'd fit his mold). The Jacksons were no more than a cash cow and a punching bag (literally and figuratively) for him.

As far as Janet - I'm wondering. Gil's "the crew got bigger" tweet could be about something else, or it could be a leak. And if he leaks shit like that a lot about Janet, why does she keep him around? He's...a leak, and possibly not an intended one. If I wanted my shit to be kept private, the last person I'd tell would be Gil Duldulao. (I don't dig his stunted choreography either.) I do think by year's end, it'll be known, and that the baby will be here.

The whole point of this post was in hoping that it will be born on Dec 15. HAHAHA That'd be a scream, solely for the sake of the weird dream I had.

although i largely agree with you-

I also must say..

Latoya wasn't really much of a 'credible' source of information

during her Jack Gordon 'CRAZY ASS BITCH' era..

TrivialPursuit said:

BlackCat1985 said:

Lmao! Latoya was telling everybody's business but her own. I remember she had a hotline for questions about the family and everything. Jack Gordan was the one making her do most of it but I got a feeling a part of Latoya liked putting her family on blast. As for Janet I go back and forth. One minute I say yes she done had that baby and is back home chillin'. But then I see news that people are seeing her walking around in London still pregnant. Sign!!!!!

Jack Gordon was the shit slime excretes after a night out.

People can say Janet tried to keep her marriage a secret, but LaToya didn't. So it's apples & oranges. Janet didn't say boo about it, but LaToya said "BOO MOTHERFUCKER" repeatedly. I knew they were married. And it's horrible that Jack Gordon tried to use information that to rape that family in every way possible to make a buck. He was abusive, power hungry, and I'd not be surprised if it came out he also molested children (I've never heard that, just sayin' it'd fit his mold). The Jacksons were no more than a cash cow and a punching bag (literally and figuratively) for him.

As far as Janet - I'm wondering. Gil's "the crew got bigger" tweet could be about something else, or it could be a leak. And if he leaks shit like that a lot about Janet, why does she keep him around? He's...a leak, and possibly not an intended one. If I wanted my shit to be kept private, the last person I'd tell would be Gil Duldulao. (I don't dig his stunted choreography either.) I do think by year's end, it'll be known, and that the baby will be here.

The whole point of this post was in hoping that it will be born on Dec 15. HAHAHA That'd be a scream, solely for the sake of the weird dream I had.

MD431Madcat said:

although i largely agree with you-

I also must say..

Latoya wasn't really much of a 'credible' source of information

during her Jack Gordon 'CRAZY ASS BITCH' era..

I can't disagree with that "era" of hers. Yet oddly, a lot of that shit ended up being true. I don't believe she thought MJ molested those kids, though. That was all Jack Gordon. Luckily for her, the family was forgiving and understood what was going on, and graciously let her back in once she escaped from Jack.

BlackCat1985 said:

mjscarousal said:

Are you really making a debate out of this?

It is widely accepted and historically noted that Janet kept a 10 year marriage hidden.... period. She never talked about marriage or marrying Rene and always denied of possibly getting married or engagement during that period. Nobody was believing crazy La Toya backed during that time period. She said a lot of off the wall things for attention. She said that Joe molested her c'mon now nobody wasn't paying her no mind. Just like Janet kept her marriage to Wissam a secret until reports came out that she was getting engaged and then she finally came out and said she had already married Wissam the year prior.

Lmao! Latoya was telling everybody's business but her own. I remember she had a hotline for questions about the family and everything. Jack Gordan was the one making her do most of it but I got a feeling a part of Latoya liked putting her family on blast. As for Janet I go back and forth. One minute I say yes she done had that baby and is back home chillin'. But then I see news that people are seeing her walking around in London still pregnant. Sign!!!!!

I think it was definitly a combination of both for sure. She always envied Michael and Janet imo. When asked what artist career she wanted to have in a video, she said Michael.

thesoulbrother said:

Chile, Janet done had the baby and it's at home doing the Stanky Leg!