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Thread started 12/13/16 9:08pm

CynicKill

Camille Paglia Bites Back At Madonna's Bogus Claims!

I knew it would happen.

As I was listening to Madonna's "Woman Of The Year" Billboard speech with feelings half impressed, half depressed, the thing that just couldn't escape my mind was her claims that Camille Paglia was not a champion of the singer. I was waiting for Camille to respond and boy did she.

What was Madonna thinking? Has she lost her mind?

http://www.dailymail.co.u...areer.html

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Reply #1 posted 12/13/16 9:47pm

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Sounds like a feud between the Hatfields and McCoys.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #2 posted 12/14/16 7:06am

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CynicKill said:

I knew it would happen.


As I was listening to Madonna's "Woman Of The Year" Billboard speech with feelings half impressed, half depressed, the thing that just couldn't escape my mind was her claims that Camille Paglia was not a champion of the singer. I was waiting for Camille to respond and boy did she.


What was Madonna thinking? Has she lost her mind?


http://www.dailymail.co.u...areer.html





// The whole speech was total assholeness. I know there are rumors out about her that I thought were bull but now I believe it to be true.
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Reply #3 posted 12/14/16 12:35pm

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She gets Madonna right here, especially Taylor Swift:

Beyonce influenced by Madonna?

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #4 posted 12/14/16 4:32pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

She gets Madonna right here, especially Taylor Swift:

Beyonce influenced by Madonna?


No way. Beyonce rips-off Tina Turner & Diana Ross.

Rihanna, Miley Cyrus, & Nicki Minaj are the true Madonna clones.

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Reply #5 posted 12/14/16 5:24pm

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Thanks, even though I posted this on another thread http://prince.org/msg/8/4...sg_9804128 I will post it here;

READ CAMILLE PAGLIA'S FULL RESPONSE TO MADONNA

Madonna is one of the most creative and influential women artists of the modern era. She transformed music and dance and produced stunning videos that were among the major works of art of the late twentieth century. She single-handedly broke the power of the Stalinist puritans of old-guard feminism and was instrumental in the triumph of pro-sex feminism in the 1990s.

Hence it is truly tragic to see Madonna descend into embarrassing displays of maudlin self-pity and irrational accusations against others. She is turning into a horrifying combination of delusional, vampiric Norma Desmond and bitter Joan Crawford on the bottle.

I was Madonna’s first major defender, when she was still considered a pop tart and a sham puppet created by shadowy male producers. In my ultra-controversial 1990 op-ed on her in the New York Times, 'Finally, a Real Feminist', I hailed her cutting-edge work and celebrated her embrace of sex, beauty, and Hollywood glamour, which had been under attack for the past quarter century of dreary second-wave feminism. I was widely attacked for my finale, which was dismissed as preposterous but which in fact came true: 'Madonna is the future of feminism'.

It is absolutely ridiculous for Madonna to now claim that she longed to ally with other women at the start of her career but was rebuffed from doing so. The media, in the U.S. and abroad, constantly asked Madonna about me or tried to bring us together, and she always refused.

For example, in 1994, Esquire magazine asked me to interview her for a cover story, but she rejected the proposal. Instead, they got the geriatric novelist Norman Mailer, who knew nothing about Madonna or popular music, with predictably vapid results. HBO wanted to film Madonna and me conversing at a restaurant. Again, she rejected it. And Penthouse too proposed a joint cover story that was shot down.

The real issue is that while Madonna’s world tours have remained highly successful, her artistic development has been stalled for 20 years. The last truly innovative work she did was with electronica producer William Orbit. Madonna has become a prisoner of her own wealth and fame. Her most authentic ideas were inspired by her childhood rebellion against the repressive code of American Catholicism.

When she switched over to Hollywood chic Kabbalah, with its easy-going ethic and pat bromides, she lost her creative drive. Furthermore, Madonna seems to lack the humility and persistence that are required for the study of serious art. She collects art for display, but obviously it has not broadened or deepened her imagination.

The number one issue in Madonna’s current path of self-destruction is her embarrassing inability to deal with aging. She has failed to study the example of her great role model, Marlene Dietrich, who retained her class and style to the end. Madonna keeps chasing after youth, humiliating herself with vulgar displays, like the horrendously trashy, buttock-baring outfit she wore to the Metropolitan Museum of Art Gala in May.

She has become a cringe-making pastiche of ratty blonde hair extensions and artificially swollen cheeks, obscuring the magnificent classic bone structure that made her one of the most photogenic celebrities of the 1990s. In her struggles to stay relevant, Madonna has debased herself with adolescent, pitifully inept Instagrams that cannot compete with Rihanna’s brilliant work in that genre.

Instead of lugubrious rants and hysterical recriminations, perhaps Madonna should try a little honest self-critique.

[Edited 12/14/16 17:27pm]

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Reply #6 posted 12/14/16 5:26pm

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Also Piers Morgan is going after her and Lady Ga Ga "Madonna and Lady Gaga Accused of Lying About Their Violent Rapes," http://www.digitalmusicne...onna-rape/

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Reply #7 posted 12/14/16 6:01pm

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And Lady Gaga praises Madonna for ‘inspiring’ feminist Billboard Woman of the Year speech http://www.news.com.au/en...6e448f5e7c

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[Edited 12/14/16 18:13pm]

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Reply #8 posted 12/14/16 6:44pm

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A different view.....Camille Paglia Reads Madonna for Filth, As Usual http://jezebel.com/camill...1790091801

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Reply #9 posted 12/14/16 9:50pm

CynicKill

Oh God the Prince comparisons!
Prince toned his sh!t WAY down when he got older.

He definitely wasn't flashing skin.

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Reply #10 posted 12/15/16 6:17pm

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CynicKill said:

Oh God the Prince comparisons!
Prince toned his sh!t WAY down when he got older.

He definitely wasn't flashing skin.

I wonder what happened to this outfit?....is on on display at Paisley Park? hmmm

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Reply #11 posted 12/19/16 7:16am

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Goddess4Real said:

CynicKill said:

Oh God the Prince comparisons!
Prince toned his sh!t WAY down when he got older.

He definitely wasn't flashing skin.

I wonder what happened to this outfit?....is on on display at Paisley Park? hmmm

He was 30 when he did this not 50years old and the lady that made the suit said that was fabric across his butt so he was not bareing his butt to the world.

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Reply #12 posted 12/19/16 9:10am

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laurarichardson said:

Goddess4Real said:

I wonder what happened to this outfit?....is on on display at Paisley Park? hmmm

He was 30 when he did this not 50years old and the lady that made the suit said that was fabric across his butt so he was not bareing his butt to the world.

If he was flashing his behind for real, the rest of his skin would be visible through the yellow net fabric as well...

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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