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Year-End Lists (Rolling Stone, TIME, Consequence of Sound, NME...)

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1. Beyonce - Lemonade
2. David Bowie - Blackstar
3. Chance the Rapper - Coloring Book
4. Car Seat Headset - Teens of Denial
5. Frank Ocean - Blonde
6. Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
7. Rolling Stones - Blue & Lonesome
8. Kanye West - The Life of Pablo
9. Leonard Cohen - You Want It Darker
10. Young Thug - Jeffery

Rest of the best: http://www.rollingstone.c...16-w451265

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01. Beyonce – Lemonade
02. Chance the Rapper – Coloring Book
03. David Bowie – Blackstar
04. Frank Ocean – Blond
05. ANOHNI – Hopelessness
06. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds – Skeleton Tree
07. Angel Olsen – My Woman
08. Anderson .Paak – Malibu
09. Bon Iver – 22, A Million
10. Leonard Cohen – You Want It Darker

Rest of the best: http://consequenceofsound...s-of-2016/

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1. Frank Ocean - Blonde

2. Solange - A Seat At The Table

3. Mitski - Puberty 2

4. Angel Olsen - My Woman

5. The Range - Potential

6. Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool

7. Rihanna - ANTI

8. Blood Orange - Freetown Sound

9. Esperanza Spalding - Emily's D+Evolution

10. Jean-Michel Blais - Il

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1. The 1975 – I Like It When You Sleep For You Are So Beautiful Yet So Unaware Of It

2. Kanye West – The Life Of Pablo

3. Christine And The Queens – Chaleur Humaine

4. Skepta – Konnichiwa

5. Kaytranada - 99.9%

6. David Bowie - Blackstar

7. Diiv – Is The Is Are

8. Iggy Pop – Post Pop Depression
9. Chance The Rapper – Coloring Book

10. Frank Ocean – Blonde

Rest of the best: http://www.nme.com/list/n...16-1869261


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Reply #1 posted 11/28/16 8:58am

EmmaMcG

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Reply #2 posted 11/28/16 2:21pm

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Don't be surprised to see this years grammy nominations leaning heavy to David Bowie, Leonard Cohen for sure who i think just made it under the wire. Paul Simon has been on a lot of top 10 best album lists and would not be surprised to see Sting and Norah Jones up there too.


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Reply #3 posted 11/28/16 5:38pm

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I wonder if these lists were written before the release of the new ATCQ album our at least before people had time to give it much of a listen. That would probably be my pick for album of the year I think so I was a little surprised yo not see it in any of these lists.
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Reply #4 posted 11/28/16 6:23pm

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I guess the corporate establishment has spoken

Michael, Janet, Prince nor Madonna NEVER made the top of these lists. So I could care less what a overweight white man feels is the best music when we all know at the end of the day they are just playing politics.

You can't tell me by looking at these list that there is a creepy proganda and a clear AGENDA going on in the corrupt music industry and I am not here for the bullshit and I will CONTINUE to talk about it and call it out because I REFUSE to be brainwashed. Michael and Prince ain't never made top of these lists! Man FUQ RollingStones, TIME, Consequence, Sound, etc FUQ them all seriously! NONE of this crap will be playing on the radio next year so who cares.

I DO hope David Bowie wins album of the year, God rest his soul. Its crazy how he has NEVER won a Grammy? PATHETIC confused

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Reply #5 posted 11/29/16 12:26pm

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Beyoncé really did her best work to date with lemonade but I doubt she'll win many Grammys if any she has way to many already for the Grammys to give her more.

I believe David Bowie and Leonard cohen will get sympathy awards similar to prince at the amas.

Didn't listen to blonde yet the droning sounds kinda turned me off a lil but I will have to listen.

Question is will Kendrick or Kanye drop something next year?
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Reply #6 posted 11/29/16 2:29pm

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falloff Beysus coming for that album of the year grammy.




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Reply #7 posted 11/29/16 2:40pm

EmmaMcG

mjscarousal said:

I guess the corporate establishment has spoken


Michael, Janet, Prince nor Madonna NEVER made the top of these lists. So I could care less what a overweight white man feels is the best music when we all know at the end of the day they are just playing politics.


You can't tell me by looking at these list that there is a creepy proganda and a clear AGENDA going on in the corrupt music industry and I am not here for the bullshit and I will CONTINUE to talk about it and call it out because I REFUSE to be brainwashed. Michael and Prince ain't never made top of these lists! Man FUQ RollingStones, TIME, Consequence, Sound, etc FUQ them all seriously! NONE of this crap will be playing on the radio next year so who cares.



I DO hope David Bowie wins album of the year, God rest his soul. Its crazy how he has NEVER won a Grammy? PATHETIC confused



Aside from some errors in grammar (sorry, couldn't resist), you are correct. If these are supposed to represent the "best" music then the music industry is in even worse shape than I thought. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if people actually believe that Beyonce had the best album of 2016, then I'm glad they've found something they like. But the proof will be in how these albums are remembered. There's a reason why Born To Run, Thriller, Purple Rain, Born In The USA, Sign O' The Times etc are still cherished 30 or 40 years after their release. They are truly great albums, well written, well performed. I'd be shocked if anything from these lists get the same treatment. Nobody will remember Lemonade in 30 years. And I'm not saying that great albums aren't being made anymore. It's just that, unfortunately, if you're not Beyoncé or Justin Timberlake or Bruno Mars, you don't get that kind of push. The labels aren't interested in you. They don't want "great". They want disposable and, more importantly, sellable music. That's just how it is now. And these lists are primarily marketing tools used by record labels to promote the latest flavour of the month with a few older artists thrown in to "legitimise" them. Basically, they're bullshit and should be ignored. The best albums are the ones you yourself like the most. Not the ones Rolling Stone has been paid to promote.

Edit - I bare no ill will towards Bruno Mars, Beyonce or Justin Timberlake. I'm just using those as examples of popular artists.
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Reply #8 posted 11/29/16 3:16pm

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I would say establishment if this were albums that actually sold, but this list has alot of albums that sold nothing. For rolling stone I was shocked we had some similar ones, the Paul Simon, Sting, Bowie, Elton records were great and except for Bowie none sold very well had singles etc....


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Reply #9 posted 11/29/16 4:21pm

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lastdecember said:

I would say establishment if this were albums that actually sold, but this list has alot of albums that sold nothing. For rolling stone I was shocked we had some similar ones, the Paul Simon, Sting, Bowie, Elton records were great and except for Bowie none sold very well had singles etc....



Like I said, they generally include a few albums from older artists to try lend some credibility to their lists.
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Reply #10 posted 11/29/16 4:28pm

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Blond from Frank is in everyone's list and what about the latest Lamar's album

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Reply #11 posted 11/29/16 6:02pm

mjscarousal

EmmaMcG said:

mjscarousal said:

I guess the corporate establishment has spoken

Michael, Janet, Prince nor Madonna NEVER made the top of these lists. So I could care less what a overweight white man feels is the best music when we all know at the end of the day they are just playing politics.

You can't tell me by looking at these list that there is a creepy proganda and a clear AGENDA going on in the corrupt music industry and I am not here for the bullshit and I will CONTINUE to talk about it and call it out because I REFUSE to be brainwashed. Michael and Prince ain't never made top of these lists! Man FUQ RollingStones, TIME, Consequence, Sound, etc FUQ them all seriously! NONE of this crap will be playing on the radio next year so who cares.

I DO hope David Bowie wins album of the year, God rest his soul. Its crazy how he has NEVER won a Grammy? PATHETIC confused

Aside from some errors in grammar (sorry, couldn't resist), you are correct. If these are supposed to represent the "best" music then the music industry is in even worse shape than I thought. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if people actually believe that Beyonce had the best album of 2016, then I'm glad they've found something they like. But the proof will be in how these albums are remembered. There's a reason why Born To Run, Thriller, Purple Rain, Born In The USA, Sign O' The Times etc are still cherished 30 or 40 years after their release. They are truly great albums, well written, well performed. I'd be shocked if anything from these lists get the same treatment. Nobody will remember Lemonade in 30 years. And I'm not saying that great albums aren't being made anymore. It's just that, unfortunately, if you're not Beyoncé or Justin Timberlake or Bruno Mars, you don't get that kind of push. The labels aren't interested in you. They don't want "great". They want disposable and, more importantly, sellable music. That's just how it is now. And these lists are primarily marketing tools used by record labels to promote the latest flavour of the month with a few older artists thrown in to "legitimise" them. Basically, they're bullshit and should be ignored. The best albums are the ones you yourself like the most. Not the ones Rolling Stone has been paid to promote. Edit - I bare no ill will towards Bruno Mars, Beyonce or Justin Timberlake. I'm just using those as examples of popular artists. [Edited 11/29/16 14:41pm]

Gurl when I get passionate, you might see me type ANYTHING LOL razz

The problem is though.... these lists do not reflect "the best pop music of today"; they reflect the agenda of the establishment. It is interesting that the top selling album (VIEWS by Drake) did not top any of these lists. Its ALSO interesting that Drake was snubbed by a lot of award shows this year. Drake broke records with this album, had the longest charting single and still didn't make any of these lists. Now.... I don't think best seller automatically means "good music". However, the hyporcrisy that the establishment shows toward some artists over others is....very telling. The elite interests does not reflect the interests of the general public.

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Reply #12 posted 11/30/16 3:01am

novabrkr

These lists have old people that old people like on them, and also some younger people the same old people think they should include on the lists because they don't want to lose the corporate money.

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Reply #13 posted 11/30/16 8:20am

Glindathegood

mjscarousal said:

Gurl when I get passionate, you might see me type ANYTHING LOL razz

The problem is though.... these lists do not reflect "the best pop music of today"; they reflect the agenda of the establishment. It is interesting that the top selling album (VIEWS by Drake) did not top any of these lists. Its ALSO interesting that Drake was snubbed by a lot of award shows this year. Drake broke records with this album, had the longest charting single and still didn't make any of these lists. Now.... I don't think best seller automatically means "good music". However, the hyporcrisy that the establishment shows toward some artists over others is....very telling. The elite interests does not reflect the interests of the general public.

These lists are not necessarily meant to represent pop music, but all music. Big name pop albums most people are aware of. I think it's a good thing to have more obscure things that weren't top sellers on the best list that people may not have heard. Maybe they will check them out and like them!

To me good music is good music. I have very eclectic taste. I like some major big name artists like Madonna, but I also like some of the albums on this list. My Woman by Angel Olsen and Puberty 2 by Mitski are two of my favorite albums of the year which I think everyone should give a chance.

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Reply #14 posted 11/30/16 9:36am

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EmmaMcG said:

mjscarousal said:

I guess the corporate establishment has spoken

Michael, Janet, Prince nor Madonna NEVER made the top of these lists. So I could care less what a overweight white man feels is the best music when we all know at the end of the day they are just playing politics.

You can't tell me by looking at these list that there is a creepy proganda and a clear AGENDA going on in the corrupt music industry and I am not here for the bullshit and I will CONTINUE to talk about it and call it out because I REFUSE to be brainwashed. Michael and Prince ain't never made top of these lists! Man FUQ RollingStones, TIME, Consequence, Sound, etc FUQ them all seriously! NONE of this crap will be playing on the radio next year so who cares.

I DO hope David Bowie wins album of the year, God rest his soul. Its crazy how he has NEVER won a Grammy? PATHETIC confused

Aside from some errors in grammar (sorry, couldn't resist), you are correct. If these are supposed to represent the "best" music then the music industry is in even worse shape than I thought. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if people actually believe that Beyonce had the best album of 2016, then I'm glad they've found something they like. But the proof will be in how these albums are remembered. There's a reason why Born To Run, Thriller, Purple Rain, Born In The USA, Sign O' The Times etc are still cherished 30 or 40 years after their release. They are truly great albums, well written, well performed. I'd be shocked if anything from these lists get the same treatment. Nobody will remember Lemonade in 30 years. And I'm not saying that great albums aren't being made anymore. It's just that, unfortunately, if you're not Beyoncé or Justin Timberlake or Bruno Mars, you don't get that kind of push. The labels aren't interested in you. They don't want "great". They want disposable and, more importantly, sellable music. That's just how it is now. And these lists are primarily marketing tools used by record labels to promote the latest flavour of the month with a few older artists thrown in to "legitimise" them. Basically, they're bullshit and should be ignored. The best albums are the ones you yourself like the most. Not the ones Rolling Stone has been paid to promote. Edit - I bare no ill will towards Bruno Mars, Beyonce or Justin Timberlake. I'm just using those as examples of popular artists. [Edited 11/29/16 14:41pm]

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Reply #15 posted 11/30/16 9:37am

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mjscarousal said:

EmmaMcG said:

mjscarousal said: Aside from some errors in grammar (sorry, couldn't resist), you are correct. If these are supposed to represent the "best" music then the music industry is in even worse shape than I thought. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if people actually believe that Beyonce had the best album of 2016, then I'm glad they've found something they like. But the proof will be in how these albums are remembered. There's a reason why Born To Run, Thriller, Purple Rain, Born In The USA, Sign O' The Times etc are still cherished 30 or 40 years after their release. They are truly great albums, well written, well performed. I'd be shocked if anything from these lists get the same treatment. Nobody will remember Lemonade in 30 years. And I'm not saying that great albums aren't being made anymore. It's just that, unfortunately, if you're not Beyoncé or Justin Timberlake or Bruno Mars, you don't get that kind of push. The labels aren't interested in you. They don't want "great". They want disposable and, more importantly, sellable music. That's just how it is now. And these lists are primarily marketing tools used by record labels to promote the latest flavour of the month with a few older artists thrown in to "legitimise" them. Basically, they're bullshit and should be ignored. The best albums are the ones you yourself like the most. Not the ones Rolling Stone has been paid to promote. Edit - I bare no ill will towards Bruno Mars, Beyonce or Justin Timberlake. I'm just using those as examples of popular artists. [Edited 11/29/16 14:41pm]

Gurl when I get passionate, you might see me type ANYTHING LOL razz

The problem is though.... these lists do not reflect "the best pop music of today"; they reflect the agenda of the establishment. It is interesting that the top selling album (VIEWS by Drake) did not top any of these lists. Its ALSO interesting that Drake was snubbed by a lot of award shows this year. Drake broke records with this album, had the longest charting single and still didn't make any of these lists. Now.... I don't think best seller automatically means "good music". However, the hyporcrisy that the establishment shows toward some artists over others is....very telling. The elite interests does not reflect the interests of the general public.

Yes! nod

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Reply #16 posted 11/30/16 9:38am

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5. Kaytranada - 99.9%

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Reply #17 posted 11/30/16 9:57am

mjscarousal

Glindathegood said:

mjscarousal said:

Gurl when I get passionate, you might see me type ANYTHING LOL razz

The problem is though.... these lists do not reflect "the best pop music of today"; they reflect the agenda of the establishment. It is interesting that the top selling album (VIEWS by Drake) did not top any of these lists. Its ALSO interesting that Drake was snubbed by a lot of award shows this year. Drake broke records with this album, had the longest charting single and still didn't make any of these lists. Now.... I don't think best seller automatically means "good music". However, the hyporcrisy that the establishment shows toward some artists over others is....very telling. The elite interests does not reflect the interests of the general public.

These lists are not necessarily meant to represent pop music, but all music. Big name pop albums most people are aware of. I think it's a good thing to have more obscure things that weren't top sellers on the best list that people may not have heard. Maybe they will check them out and like them!

To me good music is good music. I have very eclectic taste. I like some major big name artists like Madonna, but I also like some of the albums on this list. My Woman by Angel Olsen and Puberty 2 by Mitski are two of my favorite albums of the year which I think everyone should give a chance.

I agree with you 100%. However, my point was some of the so called representatives of "the most popular album" wasn't even "the most popular and top selling album" of this year. This is why I say there is a clear agenda and double standard when it comes to certain artists.


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Reply #18 posted 11/30/16 12:02pm

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5. Kaytranada - 99.9%

yes


One of the few I bought this year. Kay Slays in 2016.

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Reply #19 posted 12/01/16 9:45am

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heathilly said:

. I believe David Bowie and Leonard cohen will get sympathy awards similar to prince at the amas.


I don't give much weight to music award shows as they're mainly popularity contests, but Bowie's album is so incredible, I'd hope for the sake of show credibility, he would have won a few awards even without sympathy lol

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Reply #20 posted 12/01/16 9:52am

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thekidsgirl said:

heathilly said:

. I believe David Bowie and Leonard cohen will get sympathy awards similar to prince at the amas.


I don't give much weight to music award shows as they're mainly popularity contests, but Bowie's album is so incredible, I'd hope for the sake of show credibility, he would have won a few awards even without sympathy lol

Regardless thats how it will be taken by the public

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Reply #21 posted 12/01/16 3:21pm

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lastdecember said:

I would say establishment if this were albums that actually sold, but this list has alot of albums that sold nothing. For rolling stone I was shocked we had some similar ones, the Paul Simon, Sting, Bowie, Elton records were great and except for Bowie none sold very well had singles etc....

Like I said, they generally include a few albums from older artists to try lend some credibility to their lists.

They are also in the voters age group, who value middle of the road music or at least comeback music from artists that they grew up with. I think that contirbuted to Priince not getting as much respect as he deserved during the 1980s. He should of had way more grammies than anyone during that decade.

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Where is Pitchfork? Have Pitchfork done theirs yet? I need Pitchfork to tell me what albums will make me look smart and give me some obscure ones to play at my next wine and chia seed party after my backpacking trip through India

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Reply #23 posted 12/02/16 4:15pm

EmmaMcG

spacedolphin said:

Where is Pitchfork? Have Pitchfork done theirs yet? I need Pitchfork to tell me what albums will make me look smart and give me some obscure ones to play at my next wine and chia seed party after my backpacking trip through India



That's actually how I imagine readers of Pitchfork behave. smile
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Reply #24 posted 12/02/16 5:10pm

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spacedolphin said:

Where is Pitchfork? Have Pitchfork done theirs yet? I need Pitchfork to tell me what albums will make me look smart and give me some obscure ones to play at my next wine and chia seed party after my backpacking trip through India

ahaha I love chia,could you invite me please

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Reply #25 posted 12/02/16 7:48pm

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It's all about Solange!

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