So Jimmy Sturr (or maybe Frankie Yankovic) are the rock stars of polka

Johnny Manziel...

Jack White ; he's talented and has released a lot of good songs : temporary ground, My doorbell, Alone in my home, Lazaretto, and so on...

Beyonce

Taylor Swift

heathilly said:

Dasein said:

Rock stars in a Hendrix-type iteration are dead and gone as guitarslingers are no longer in
vogue.

yes I agree with this if your looking for a guy toting a guitar yelling and playing loud being a rebel etc. That whole thing is dead and gone. Hip hop is the music of the youth now and while some of it is rebellious time and culture has changed peoples values are different. The new rock stars or superstar musically are rappers.

None of the rappers today play any instrutments, write and rap poorly and cannot make it past 3 albums. These guys are very much coporate butt kissers with their non-stop cooning. In no way are they rock stars and it has nothing to do with their race or their genre of music.

No there are none but I don't know why people are so pressed to fill these "voids". Why can't we just accept that the era of the rock stars, icons, etc is long gone??? That IS OKAY is there nothing wrong with that. Now I see a lot of people referring to Kanye as a "rock star" but I promise you outside of this site, Kanye is not revered as a rock star by the general public. Kanye is viewed as a Hip Hop star and rapper. ALSO, I don't think Kanye is as rebellious as some here are making it seem like. If he was as rebellious as some here suggest, he would make an album like Tupac did calling out the industry and his peers but of course Kanye would never do something like that. Kanye blows smoke up Beyonce and Jay Z ass every chance he gets. Please, Kanye aint fighting the establishment, he is a pawn too.

laurarichardson said:

heathilly said:

yes I agree with this if your looking for a guy toting a guitar yelling and playing loud being a rebel etc. That whole thing is dead and gone. Hip hop is the music of the youth now and while some of it is rebellious time and culture has changed peoples values are different. The new rock stars or superstar musically are rappers.

None of the rappers today play any instrutments, write and rap poorly and cannot make it past 3 albums. These guys are very much coporate butt kissers with their non-stop cooning. In no way are they rock stars and it has nothing to do with their race or their genre of music.

This is why I don't get people arguing Kanye is a "rock star" when a lot of his "antics" are pandering stunts for the establishment and corporate executives.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

dancerella said:

Axl Rose! He embodies everything that rock n roll should be.

Of today ... he's old as shit now.

Why should age matter? The question "rock star of today" refers to relevance as of right now. No rock musician even comes close to the current lead singer of two of the biggest bands of all time - GNR & AC/DC.

What other rock band today can sell a million tickets in 24 hours the way GNR just did? And AC/DC sold four million tickets on their just completed world tour. If that ain't relevance, then nothing else is.

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laurarichardson said:

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I second Jack White, Josh Homme, and Dave Grohl. More for their presence at music festivals than for any controversy. I don't know so much about who thrashed the most hotel rooms, drove the flashiest car, or punched the most fans, as I don't follow the tabloids.

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MotownSubdivision said:

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said:

MickyDolenz said:

So Jimmy Sturr (or maybe Frankie Yankovic) are the rock stars of polka

Yeah, it's kinda crazy how rock music has sunk so low that performers of every other musical genre are being referred to as rock musicians.

I blame the Rock Hall of Fame for inducting so many artists that have absolutely nothing to do with rock music.

They really should rename it the "All Music Except Country and Classical Hall of Fame" because that's really what it's become. I see why, though ... simply not enough great rock musicians to keep the Hall limited to rock music only.

MotownSubdivision said:

laurarichardson said:

//Playing an instrument would certainly help and the barley being literate means they should not be writing at all. I will not go into the cooning and corporate ass kissing of rappers today and once again most are not going to make it pass 3 CDs. [Edited 12/31/16 10:09am]

Playing an instrument would help anybody but that doesn't make it a requirement to be considered an artist or within the context of this topic, a rock star. I shouldn't be surprised at the general stereotypical negative opinion of hip hop on this forum. You just aren't listening to the right rappers.

From someone who is a huge hip hop/rap fan, I agree with Laura. She is right about the mainstream rappers of today's era. They all are corporate kissers who for the most part don't stand up for anything musically or socially. They are not rebelling against the establisment and most are corporate pawns in todays era of music. In saying that doesn't mean one is stereotyping hip hop overall. I am specifically referring to that statement not really the other things that Laura stated.

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I love Jack White but he has done some corporate stuff like co signing that TIDAL which I gave a major side eye at him for publicly supporting. I dunno if I would call him the "quintessential rock star" but I respect that he doesn't follow trends and continues to produce music because he loves it. He is a great artist!

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MotownSubdivision said:

laurarichardson said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Playing an instrument would help anybody but that doesn't make it a requirement to be considered an artist or within the context of this topic, a rock star. I shouldn't be surprised at the general stereotypical negative opinion of hip hop on this forum. You just aren't listening to the right rappers.

---Do you listen to RnB radio stations that play Hip-Hop today?. It is total garbage and any artist that try's to set outside of the ignorance gets no play. A Tribe Called Quest had the number one Cd in the land and I never heard one track on the air. Simply because it was not a bunch of ignorant crap.

R&B radio is really really bad,

MotownSubdivision said:

Pokeno4Money said:

mjscarousal said:

laurarichardson said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Pokeno4Money said:

Yeah, it's kinda crazy how rock music has sunk so low that performers of every other musical genre are being referred to as rock musicians.

I blame the Rock Hall of Fame for inducting so many artists that have absolutely nothing to do with rock music.

They really should rename it the "All Music Except Country and Classical Hall of Fame" because that's really what it's become. I see why, though ... simply not enough great rock musicians to keep the Hall limited to rock music only.

The first inductees of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1986 included Sam Cooke, Ray Charles, James Brown and Fats Domino. Are those guys "Rock" musicians?

At that time, yes. Rock music has evolved since then. Would "Rock Around The Clock" be considered rock music today? Nope ... but back then, obviously it was. It's all about context.

Pokeno4Money said:

Pokeno4Money said:

today......................no one

MotownSubdivision said:

Pokeno4Money said:

At that time, yes. Rock music has evolved since then. Would "Rock Around The Clock" be considered rock music today? Nope ... but back then, obviously it was. It's all about context.

Based on that logic, Prince should no longer be considered a rock star because music now isn't the same as it was when he was popular.

No, you're still not getting it. Prince was a rock star when his music was considered rock, just like those whose songs were considered rock n' roll back in the 50's. Many of the older "rock" songs would be classified today as "pop" or other genres, but that doesn't matter.

What I disagree with is the induction of artists whose songs were NOT considered "rock" at the time they were released. I mean I love Donna Summer, but she was never a "rock" musician. Her music was never considered "rock" music, her songs never appeared on "rock" charts. Neither was Hall & Oates nor Madonna. Again, their songs never appeared on "rock" charts. R&B charts and Dance charts, yes. For all those artists to get inducted before a legendary ROCK band like Deep Purple is absurd.

Pokeno4Money said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Pokeno4Money said: Based on that logic, Prince should no longer be considered a rock star because music now isn't the same as it was when he was popular.

No, you're still not getting it. Prince was a rock star when his music was considered rock, just like those whose songs were considered rock n' roll back in the 50's. Many of the older "rock" songs would be classified today as "pop" or other genres, but that doesn't matter.

What I disagree with is the induction of artists whose songs were NOT considered "rock" at the time they were released. I mean I love Donna Summer, but she was never a "rock" musician. Her music was never considered "rock" music, her songs never appeared on "rock" charts. Neither was Hall & Oates nor Madonna. Again, their songs never appeared on "rock" charts. R&B charts and Dance charts, yes. For all those artists to get inducted before a legendary ROCK band like Deep Purple is absurd.

I disagree with this whole statement. If that's the case just kick out all of the soul and R&B and pop artist. It's obvious that "Rock & Roll" means much more than a white guy playing guitar. As evidence by the first year inductee Sam Cooke, or a second year inductees like Aretha Franklin, Clyde McPhatter or BLUES singer BB King. Nothin' Rock about BB. It should have been clear in the mid-80s that this is not just a place for artist similar to the Doors or Pink Floyd. Artist that are considered "Rock."