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Reply #120 posted 12/03/16 11:26am

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I recently learned of an unreleased song by a friend who is a mj fan called 'We Be Ballin' by Ice Cube ft MJ and Shaq. The song is catchy and stuck in my head at the moment razz

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Reply #121 posted 12/07/16 7:23pm

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How 'Somebody's Watching Me' Singer Rockwell Created a Paranoid Pop Classic http://www.rollingstone.c...me-w445172

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I like this song music

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Reply #122 posted 12/08/16 11:42pm

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Heard The Jackson 5's I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus on the radio today and hearing the young MJ on vocals harkened me back to my own childhood when I used to love listening to the song-- we had the 45 vinyl single-- and played it a lot during the holidays. It's my favorite Christmas song along with, Give Love On Christmas Day. Hearing the song made me miss MJ, too. sad
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Reply #123 posted 12/09/16 11:12am

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rainbowchild said:

Heard The Jackson 5's I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus on the radio today and hearing the young MJ on vocals harkened me back to my own childhood when I used to love listening to the song-- we had the 45 vinyl single-- and played it a lot during the holidays. It's my favorite Christmas song along with, Give Love On Christmas Day. Hearing the song made me miss MJ, too. sad

that and little drummer boy are my favourites!!! smile

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Reply #124 posted 12/11/16 11:02am

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I guess there are no more unreleased songs to look forward to...

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #125 posted 12/11/16 11:57am

EmmaMcG

purplethunder3121 said:

I guess there are no more unreleased songs to look forward to...



Well, there are unreleased Michael Jackson songs out there but whether Sony or whoever decide to release them officially is another matter.
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Reply #126 posted 12/11/16 12:34pm

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EmmaMcG said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I guess there are no more unreleased songs to look forward to...

Well, there are unreleased Michael Jackson songs out there but whether Sony or whoever decide to release them officially is another matter.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #127 posted 12/11/16 9:13pm

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OFF TOPIC: Why I believe Michael's legacy is not in any danger: watching the Giants vs Cowboys (American Football) Odell Beckham Jr. scored a touchdown and proceeded to do his best Michael impersonation in the end zone biggrin

Same thing last week. The Giants vs the Steelers. One of the Steelers scored a touchdown and did his Michael dance.

Michael has influenced TOO MANY people in different walks of life. As long as you have The Ushers, Weeknds, Chis Browns (and the like), as well as athletes paying homage to this Man, his legacy will remain intack.

These peeps are fans and their fandom will be passed to their cildren. Trust.
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Reply #128 posted 12/12/16 12:46am

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #129 posted 12/12/16 4:57am

Scorp

Shaolin325 said:

OFF TOPIC: Why I believe Michael's legacy is not in any danger: watching the Giants vs Cowboys (American Football) Odell Beckham Jr. scored a touchdown and proceeded to do his best Michael impersonation in the end zone biggrin Same thing last week. The Giants vs the Steelers. One of the Steelers scored a touchdown and did his Michael dance. Michael has influenced TOO MANY people in different walks of life. As long as you have The Ushers, Weeknds, Chis Browns (and the like), as well as athletes paying homage to this Man, his legacy will remain intack. These peeps are fans and their fandom will be passed to their cildren. Trust.

and when we see these public displays by athletes, these athletes, particularly american athletes are paying to the Michael Jackson of the beginning stages of his adult solo career, ala the years of Thriller.......

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Reply #130 posted 12/12/16 6:05pm

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Now Quincy wants to sue the companies for "elder abuse" disbelief Judge: Quincy Jones cannot expand $10M suit against late Michael Jackson’s companies http://mynewsla.com/holly...companies/

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Reply #131 posted 12/14/16 10:21am

alphastreet

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Now Quincy wants to sue the companies for "elder abuse" disbelief Judge: Quincy Jones cannot expand $10M suit against late Michael Jackson’s companies http://mynewsla.com/holly...companies/

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I think it's more about administrative practices than michael jackson the person. It is a shady industry you know.

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Reply #132 posted 12/14/16 2:00pm

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Michael Jackson's Executor, Manager Ordered to Testify in Billion-Dollar Tax Battle

A U.S. Tax Court judge has also deemed as inadmissible a report from one of the nation's leading First Amendment scholars.
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A U.S. Tax Court judge has also deemed as inadmissible a report from one of the nation's leading First Amendment scholars.

The tax trial of the century — one focused on the worth of late pop singer Michael Jackson when he died in 2009 — is set to begin this February. With more than $1 billion at stake, the Internal Revenue Service and Michael Jackson's estate are scrambling in these final pretrial days to discover everything they need to know before heading into battle.

This week, U.S. Tax Court Judge Mark Holmes granted a heavily contested motion by the IRS to depose John Branca, one of the two co-executors of Jackson's will; Michael Kane, the singer's former business manager; and Karen Langford, a paralegal said to have participated in the valuation of Jackson's image and be knowledgeable about unreleased music. But John McClain, the other co-executor of Jackson's will, won't be giving a deposition.

Although McClain currently manages an outfit that exploits Jackson trademarks, Holmes writes in his order that McClain is seriously ill. To protect his health, McClain won't have to testify just yet, but the judge isn't ruling out that he may have to do so at trial if the IRS insists and after potential briefing by the parties.

Judge Holmes has also ordered a variety of documents to be shared with the IRS including cease-and-desist letters the estate has sent to those it thought might be exploiting Jackson's likeness without authorization, the minutes of the estate's sale of its interest in Sony/ATV to Sony, and appraisals of that sale reported to be worth about $750 million.

The big-ticket item at the current trial — and the reason why the case i...t industry — will be valuating Jackson's posthumous right to his likeness. The IRS has insisted it's worth more than $434 million and may point as evidence to the 2009 documentary This Is It, a Cirque du Soleil tribute show, and post-death albums, video games and other lucrative memorials. The estate's own valuation is just $2,105, arguing that what's important is the value when he died, when Jackson's commercial prospects were suffering from charges of child molestation and drug abuse, before executors worked their magic, and the King of Pop experienced a resurgence in popularity.

The coming valuation analysis and conclusions will be informed by what licensors theoretically would be willing to pay for rights. To this end, Jackson's estate commissioned UCLA Law School professor Eugene Volokh, one of the leading scholars of First Amendment law and torts, to prepare a report on the subject of how the value of a celebrity like Jackson depends on the legal limits of the posthumous right of publicity.

The IRS brought a motion to exclude Volokh's report as inadmissible since it's the judge deciding conclusions about the law. Experts only render opinions informed by facts.

"This is true even when issue before the Court is a mix of law and fact, as it is in the valuation questions in this case," writes Holmes in response to the IRS' motion. "Professor Volokh's proffered testimony would be helpful in drawing the bounds of the estate's rights in Jackson's image. But the rule excluding testimony about the content of domestic law is a strong one in this Court. His legal expertise can help the estate to prepare for examination before trial and in argument after the trial, but we find it inadmissible as testimony during the trial.

Source: http://edit.hollywoodrepo...tle-954217

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Reply #133 posted 12/14/16 7:04pm

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Reply #134 posted 12/14/16 8:37pm

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In order to accomplish his famous forward lean, Michael Jackson invented a special shoe that had a slotted heel which slid onto bolts that protruded from the floor, essentially creating a dovetail joint between the dancer and the stage.

Along with two co-inventors, he patented the shoes in 1993. The abstract reads…

A system for allowing a shoe wearer to lean forwardly beyond his center of gravity by virtue of wearing a specially designed pair of shoes which will engage with a hitch member movably projectable through a stage surface. The shoes have a specially designed heel slot which can be detachably engaged with the hitch member by simply sliding the shoe wearer’s foot forward, thereby engaging with the hitch member.

Here are a few images from the patent…

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #135 posted 12/15/16 12:08am

heathilly

Thinking about bob dylan winning the nobel for lit makes me wish mj won it for peace and I would say he actually deserved it.

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Reply #136 posted 12/15/16 12:09am

heathilly

Thinking about bob dylan winning the nobel for lit makes me wish mj won it for peace and I would say he actually deserved it.

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Reply #137 posted 12/15/16 1:06pm

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Thinking about bob dylan winning the nobel for lit makes me wish mj won it for peace and I would say he actually deserved it.

You may be right, he deserves it.

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Reply #138 posted 12/15/16 2:43pm

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Has anyone configured a playlist to make Invincible a more solid album with some of the released material on Xscape? Here's what I came up with. I think the transition from The Lost Children to Threatened makes it more errie.


Shout
Xscape
Heartbreaker
2000 Watts
Invincible
Blue Gangsta
Whatever Happens
Privacy
Unbreakable
Chicago
We've Had Enough
A Place With No Name
The Lost Children
Threatened
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Reply #139 posted 12/15/16 3:28pm

EmmaMcG

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Has anyone configured a playlist to make Invincible a more solid album with some of the released material on Xscape? Here's what I came up with. I think the transition from The Lost Children to Threatened makes it more errie.


Shout
Xscape
Heartbreaker
2000 Watts
Invincible
Blue Gangsta
Whatever Happens
Privacy
Unbreakable
Chicago
We've Had Enough
A Place With No Name
The Lost Children
Threatened


I'd probably replace We've Had Enough, The Lost Children, A Place With No Name and Chicago with You Rock My World and Let Me Let Go but that's just down to my own personal preference. Not that I don't like the songs I'd remove, I just think it would flow better that way.
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Reply #140 posted 12/15/16 3:56pm

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Has anyone configured a playlist to make Invincible a more solid album with some of the released material on Xscape? Here's what I came up with. I think the transition from The Lost Children to Threatened makes it more errie. Shout Xscape Heartbreaker 2000 Watts Invincible Blue Gangsta Whatever Happens Privacy Unbreakable Chicago We've Had Enough A Place With No Name The Lost Children Threatened

Add Another Day,Slave and You Rock My World and The Way You Love Me and take out Inccinvible

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Reply #141 posted 12/15/16 4:10pm

heathilly

funkycat00 said:

Has anyone configured a playlist to make Invincible a more solid album with some of the released material on Xscape? Here's what I came up with. I think the transition from The Lost Children to Threatened makes it more errie.


Shout
Xscape
Heartbreaker
2000 Watts
Invincible
Blue Gangsta
Whatever Happens
Privacy
Unbreakable
Chicago
We've Had Enough
A Place With No Name
The Lost Children
Threatened


Get rid of
Invincible
Heartbreaker
2000 watts
You are my life
Privacy
Cry
Threatened

Your left with
Unbreakable
Break of dawn
Heaven can wait
You rock my world
Butterflies
Speechless
Don't walk away
Whatever happens

That's a much better album than the original but it just begs the question wtf happened to his songwriting talents on this album. Here you have one the greatest songwriters period saying yeah I think I'm going let people who write for brandy and destiny child write all the songs. It's frustrating to look at this album. Smh. confused
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Reply #142 posted 12/16/16 1:07am

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heathilly said:

funkycat00 said:
Has anyone configured a playlist to make Invincible a more solid album with some of the released material on Xscape? Here's what I came up with. I think the transition from The Lost Children to Threatened makes it more errie. Shout Xscape Heartbreaker 2000 Watts Invincible Blue Gangsta Whatever Happens Privacy Unbreakable Chicago We've Had Enough A Place With No Name The Lost Children Threatened
Get rid of Invincible Heartbreaker 2000 watts You are my life Privacy Cry Threatened Your left with Unbreakable Break of dawn Heaven can wait You rock my world Butterflies Speechless Don't walk away Whatever happens That's a much better album than the original but it just begs the question wtf happened to his songwriting talents on this album. Here you have one the greatest songwriters period saying yeah I think I'm going let people who write for brandy and destiny child write all the songs. It's frustrating to look at this album. Smh. confused


Your picks are pretty much what I'd leave on it myself.

However, the problem with that type of a configuration would obviously be that it'd be mostly slow or midtempo songs.

Maybe the problem with the Invincible album in general was that the faster, more aggressive songs didn't really match the slower, soulful songs stylistically. The album sounds like 50% "modern take on Off The Wall" and 50% outtakes from HIStory sessions. It's a frustrating album to listen to.

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Reply #143 posted 12/16/16 5:37am

heathilly

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heathilly said:


funkycat00 said:
Has anyone configured a playlist to make Invincible a more solid album with some of the released material on Xscape? Here's what I came up with. I think the transition from The Lost Children to Threatened makes it more errie. Shout Xscape Heartbreaker 2000 Watts Invincible Blue Gangsta Whatever Happens Privacy Unbreakable Chicago We've Had Enough A Place With No Name The Lost Children Threatened

Get rid of Invincible Heartbreaker 2000 watts You are my life Privacy Cry Threatened Your left with Unbreakable Break of dawn Heaven can wait You rock my world Butterflies Speechless Don't walk away Whatever happens That's a much better album than the original but it just begs the question wtf happened to his songwriting talents on this album. Here you have one the greatest songwriters period saying yeah I think I'm going let people who write for brandy and destiny child write all the songs. It's frustrating to look at this album. Smh. confused


Your picks are pretty much what I'd leave on it myself.

However, the problem with that type of a configuration would obviously be that it'd be mostly slow or midtempo songs.

Maybe the problem with the Invincible album in general was that the faster, more aggressive songs didn't really match the slower, soulful songs stylistically. The album sounds like 50% "modern take on Off The Wall" and 50% outtakes from HIStory sessions. It's a frustrating album to listen to.


True it would just be more rnb balladry which I don't think is a super terrible thing. He's never really had an album like that at least it would be a different direction.
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Reply #144 posted 12/17/16 2:29am

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I personally think this would've been a killer album:

1. Unbreakable

2. Heartbreaker

3. Hollywood Tonight

4. Break of Dawn

5. Xscape

6. You Rock My World

8. Butterflies

8. Speechless

9. Shout

10. We've Had Enough

11. Heaven Can Wait

12. Whatever Happens

13. Much Too Soon (re-recorded)

14. The Lost Children

15. Threatened



Put out Invincible, 2000 Watts and You Are My Life as b-sides. Scrap Don't Walk Away and Privacy altogether.

[Edited 12/17/16 10:09am]

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Reply #145 posted 12/17/16 10:12am

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heathilly said:

Get rid of Heartbreaker, Threatened


Those are two of the best songs on the album, especially Heartbreaker. And keeping Don't Walk Away? I would say that is one of the dullest songs in MJs catalogue.

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Reply #146 posted 12/17/16 1:19pm

heathilly

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heathilly said:


Get rid of Heartbreaker, Threatened


Those are two of the best songs on the album, especially Heartbreaker. And keeping Don't Walk Away? I would say that is one of the dullest songs in MJs catalogue.


Don't get me wrong just because I didn't kick that song to the curb doesn't mean it's good. Most of all of invincible's songs are generic as fawk do to him outsourcing songs from mediocre talent. But he manges to save a little subpar material with his singing. He gives a good performance on don't walk away and it has a decent crescendo ending. As far as heartbreaker that song is meh to me and threatens has a good beat I liked what he did with in this is it. But its just more of the same leave me alone type of song and it's just simply not very good.
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Reply #147 posted 12/17/16 5:10pm

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MattyJam said:

heathilly said:

Get rid of Heartbreaker, Threatened


Those are two of the best songs on the album, especially Heartbreaker. And keeping Don't Walk Away? I would say that is one of the dullest songs in MJs catalogue.

Dull and painfully honest at that point. I would keep that one and remove You Are My Life...Prince should have never gotten sick or Fall Again would have been finished and put on Invincible.

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Reply #148 posted 12/18/16 6:07pm

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MattyJam said:


Those are two of the best songs on the album, especially Heartbreaker. And keeping Don't Walk Away? I would say that is one of the dullest songs in MJs catalogue.

Dull and painfully honest at that point. I would keep that one and remove You Are My Life...Prince should have never gotten sick or Fall Again would have been finished and put on Invincible.

You're right, i fuckin love that song is beautiful.

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Reply #149 posted 12/18/16 6:48pm

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Invincible is painfully mixed, which is actually good now, because a lot of people saw it as weak. I was lucky to own Invincible on CD, when you could only carry a portable CD player on the bus with crappy earphones which let everyone hear what you were listening to. The first stretch of that album is classic for me, by any standards (in no order) - Unbreakable, Heartbreaker, Invincible, Break Of Dawn, Heaven Can Wait, You Rock My World, Butterflies... all greatest hits to me. The only dud for me is The Lost Children. I respect the content and message and the Irish-themed vocals hit, but it is far too sappy for me. I can listen to Man In The Mirror; I wouldn't dare play TLC for others, or even on my own.

I think that as time goes on, and people see MJ's transition from midwest soul prodegy in Motown's heyday, to 70's soul star, to 80's and 90's icon, to 00's celebrity, it will be more forgiving. Invincible is a great album as-is to me, and I actually appreciate he collaborated a lot.

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