Harlepolis said:

if you know the Hustle Pimps Never stop Pimping&you are never to old to Be out there Pimping.Clive Davis still Pimps&He is in His 70's now same with Hugh Hefner&don't thank they ain't Pimped Slapped Folks.still Pimping!

mistermaxxx said:

Those are REAL PIMPS they just don't put the pimp act. Ron wouldn't put this pimp act if Robert didn't back him up lol tell you the truth? I have this feeling that it was all made up by R himself.Anyway,,,!

Off topic, how old is Miss Winbush and did she have any kids from him?

Harlepolis said:

Ronald did start Acting Fly back in the mid 80's but more on a Billy Dee Williams Kick than anything.but yeah R. did Re-Make Him up&Wrote out a Script,etc...Angela is in Her 40's&no Kids with Ron that I'm aware of.without R.Kelly there would be No MR.Biggs.He would be wearing the thread like Solomon Burke still does or talking Trash like Clarence Carter but it wouldn't be a Big deal no pun intended.

mistermaxxx said:

LOL man, in the 80's/late 70's all the bruthas were into the Billy Dee persona sooo damn corny! but I see yo point!

Harlepolis said:

you know outin Hollywood with Black Folks ONE at a Time One at a time.it's Been Denzel for 10 years.Billy Dee Williams was a Really Good Actor but the Beer Ads&Lady Sings the Blues&the Line in Mahagony is all that folks seem to Remember&of course Florence Johnson on "The Jeffersons" Fainting Over Him.Billy still acting Cool By the way in Malibu.LOL!

I wish that Kelly would just leave these groove masters alone!!! They didn't need him to become the legends that they are; he practically "borrows" from their catalogue at will, anyway.! I also don't like this character/image Kelly's got for them with this Mr. Big shit! It seems like that's the reason why they're selling anything because of selling the dumbass pimp image to the kids these days! Such a shame, too. They don't need that shit now; never did. Damn! I could stand to hear "Tears" right about now!!

Now, before y'all start claiming I'm R Kelly bashing, DON'T!!! I'm not. Just tired of this new image coming from some overrated (though still quite talented) thug who isn't, and may never be, on the same level as the legendary Isleys!!!

alexnvrmnd said:

You Need to Shake the R.Kelly Flakes out of your Head! R.Kelly Brought them back period.I mean lets be real: 10 years ago Ronald Isley was Upset with Boss Sampling there Stuff&talking Mess.they weren't getting any Play.give it up for R.Kelly for taking the Heads Up to bring them back.who doesn't take from others??if you aren't a Fan than Why bash R.Kelly? FYI Ronald Isley thinks quite Highly of R.Kelly.if the Music Relationship wasn't working they wouldn't come to Him but they did.also I know how Ronald Isley Operates&He didn't bound with many of the Current Writers&Producers.it takes two to tangle&R.Kelly is DA KING OF MODERN DAY R&B&Don't Forget.HATERS SHAKE THE FLAKES!!!

mistermaxxx said:

Nah, man. Ain't nobody hatin'! But to turn Ronald into some dumbass pimp, which is all people really think about when they hear their current songs, is inexcusable. Maybe a change in image WAS needed, but not to this. They're fine without Kelly...trust me. "Tears" was the best song they've done in the modern era, and that was a Babyface collaboration, not Kelly. I gave Kelly his props in my post, but he can't touch these legends...no matter how much he tries to emulate them!

And to mirror David's comment, to call him the king of R&B is a bit premature...ALMOST as silly as Whitney calling Bobby the original king!

alexnvrmnd said:

matter of Opinion&Remember R.Kelly after Babyface has had the Longest Run Since as a Writer&Producer for other Folks in the R&B/Pop Circle&also Remember R.Kelly is Rolling also a Solo Artist Longer as well.I Ain't you&I Ain't David&I Named Him DA KING OF MODERN R&B! read what I said about Bobby upward.

mistermaxxx said:

Yeah, I read those comments, but in my opinion, I still think you're giving Bobby too much credit, but I digress. As far as Kelly goes, that's cool that that's your opinion, even though it's wrong! J/K! But, he could be considered the king of it now just like Puffy was considered the "king" of rap back in the mid 90's (and we ALL know that wasn't true; his albums were just selling hot and that's it; just like Kelly's are now). So, sales and top quality are not necessarily the same thing, ya know. But if you dig him so much, that's cool! We all have different styles and tastes, and we'll just have to agree to disagree on R. Kelly!!

Though, I will add I do like that recent song he did for/with Nivea "Laundromat". I could've done without his vocal input in the song, as it's not needed, but it's still not a bad track!

alexnvrmnd said:

the trip out thing about that Cut: R did that on a Off-Day.Cat got 20 cuts like that just sitting around.catchy Track&Nivea is Stuffed the Way a Brother likes it.

mistermaxxx said:

That's ONE thing I'll agree on with you about this, Nivea is stacked just right! DAMN!!! She can spend time in my laudromat anytime! LOL!

alexnvrmnd said:

SHO NUFF!&BTW Dave Chapelle is Wack.R.Kelly got more talent in His Pinky than Chapelle has in all of His Body.Crack Head Chip Tooth Beaver Chapelle got alot of Nerve trying to Diss on Somebody.don't be talking about R.Kelly the Artist "DA KANG OF MODERN R&B"

alexnvrmnd said:

SHO NUFF!&BTW Dave Chapelle is Wack.R.Kelly got more talent in His Pinky than Chapelle has in all of His Body.Crack Head Chip Tooth Beaver Chapelle got alot of Nerve trying to Diss on Somebody.don't be talking about R.Kelly the Artist "DA KANG OF MODERN R&B"

mistermaxxx said:

LOL! You and this so-called "king of R&B"! Hey, I'm diggin' Chapelle. He's funny as shit, and if you saw the skit, among many others (maybe you did?), you'd be laughing your ass off too!!

alexnvrmnd said:

I posted links to the Dave Chapelle MP3s on the "Best Of R. Kelly?" thread.

I Find Him Insulting&Another Uncle Tom Acting Comedian.He would be lucky to get to Hold MR.Biggs Pimp Cane.

I Find Him Insulting&Another Uncle Tom Acting Comedian.He would be lucky to get to Hold MR.Biggs Pimp Cane.

mistermaxxx said:

You really find him NOT funny? I've always been a fan of his since the first time I saw him in Robin Hood: Men In Tights! And his show is hilarious, but just like our differences with R Kelly, to each his/her own on him too! But how do you figure he's "Uncle Tom" acting? What has he done or said to make you feel that way?

mistermaxxx said:

You really find him NOT funny? I've always been a fan of his since the first time I saw him in Robin Hood: Men In Tights! And his show is hilarious, but just like our differences with R Kelly, to each his/her own on him too! But how do you figure he's "Uncle Tom" acting? What has he done or said to make you feel that way?

alexnvrmnd said:

Come on now, I'm down for a laugh and smirked a little on first hearing the R. Kelly diss songs but I see people saying they are Dave's career highlight. There was nothing that deep or clever in obvious urinating rhymes...

As for the "Uncle Tom" accusation, I think Maxxx is just hinting at the element of telling tales/mocking on/of his "own people" (R) to "Master" (The mainly white viewership/establishment). This and many other takes on humour could be seen as divisive if broken down to the elements...

Essence said:

Dave's comedy is no different than Richard Pryor or any other black comedian who tell jokes about blacks to an audience. The type of jokes are the same! So, how he can be more of an "Uncle Tom" than any of them? I have still yet to hear a compelling argument on why Maxxx considers him an Uncle Tom!! And, who's saying those songs are his career highlight? If they're saying it, it's because they've just discovered him on Comedy Central. They obviously haven't followed his career from the beginning!