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Thread started 11/21/16 8:54pm

dancerella

808's & Heartbreaks is a masterpiece!

Just listened to this for the first time in at least a couple of years. It was my album of the year when it came out. This album is spectacular. I wish he could go back to this sound. I also think this album is groundbreaking. I think it shaped Drake's sound and a few artists after him.
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Reply #1 posted 11/21/16 11:17pm

alphastreet

Love this album too and agree there would be no Drake without this album

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Reply #2 posted 11/22/16 12:24pm

dancerella

alphastreet said:

Love this album too and agree there would be no Drake without this album




Glad to see someone else appreciates this album, artistry and inventiveness behind it.
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Reply #3 posted 11/22/16 12:57pm

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Favorite tracks "Paranoid", "Robocop", "Street Lights"

The album is quite the departure from his norm. It is a tad bit depressing for me...but understandibly so. This was a sad era for him after his mom passed. As well his experiementation made him stand out compared to the other rap artists at the time. Some deep and weird lyrics as well like "When I grab your neck...I touch your soul!" on Say You Will. Its sexy and scary at the same time...and coming from kanye..you have no choice but to believe what he is saying. He aint ever lied about his life I give him that.

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Reply #4 posted 11/22/16 3:46pm

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paisleypark4 said:

Favorite tracks "Paranoid", "Robocop", "Street Lights"



The album is quite the departure from his norm. It is a tad bit depressing for me...but understandibly so. This was a sad era for him after his mom passed. As well his experiementation made him stand out compared to the other rap artists at the time. Some deep and weird lyrics as well like "When I grab your neck...I touch your soul!" on Say You Will. Its sexy and scary at the same time...and coming from kanye..you have no choice but to believe what he is saying. He aint ever lied about his life I give him that.

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I agree there's definitely some sad undertones given what he was going through at that time. I forgot about a lot of those tracks and how great they are. Robocop is so good. Say you will is fantastic. I think the album almost birthed a new genre of rap that we hear now. That sing songy, dark experimental sound is still going but I think Kanye did it first and best.
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Reply #5 posted 11/22/16 3:53pm

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dancerella said:

paisleypark4 said:

Favorite tracks "Paranoid", "Robocop", "Street Lights"

The album is quite the departure from his norm. It is a tad bit depressing for me...but understandibly so. This was a sad era for him after his mom passed. As well his experiementation made him stand out compared to the other rap artists at the time. Some deep and weird lyrics as well like "When I grab your neck...I touch your soul!" on Say You Will. Its sexy and scary at the same time...and coming from kanye..you have no choice but to believe what he is saying. He aint ever lied about his life I give him that.

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I agree there's definitely some sad undertones given what he was going through at that time. I forgot about a lot of those tracks and how great they are. Robocop is so good. Say you will is fantastic. I think the album almost birthed a new genre of rap that we hear now. That sing songy, dark experimental sound is still going but I think Kanye did it first and best. [Edited 11/22/16 15:48pm]

clapping Emo Rap is what they call it these days . I welcome it all.

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Reply #6 posted 11/22/16 6:01pm

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Drake, and Frank Ocean to an extent, owe a debt of gratitude to Kanye's 808s and Heartbreaks. A rapper trying to sing about heartbreak? Well, Drake's made a career out of it.
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Reply #7 posted 11/22/16 8:56pm

dancerella

avajane said:

Drake, and Frank Ocean to an extent, owe a debt of gratitude to Kanye's 808s and Heartbreaks. A rapper trying to sing about heartbreak? Well, Drake's made a career out of it.



Exactly! That's Drake's whole vibe.
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Reply #8 posted 11/23/16 10:43am

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Masterpeeeeece.... King Kanye ushered in a new era of marginally talented alpha males insincerely integrating emotional content into their hip hop music turned pop music, mainstreaming the autotune as some sort of singing perfection device for people who literally cannot sing while average people's dreams are crushed on YouTube comments or talent shows for being a little off key these fools are revered for singing through a machine. In a sea of turds, Kanye West stands out as the shiniest. It's like they say every time Kanye sings a talented angel loses its wings. The worst is when he "holds a note" pretending he is some sort of Intel-enhanced robotic R Kelly like in that Heartless song, absolute garbage and folks love it, eat it up like cake. It's sad what's happened to talent and entertainment this century that this or something like Lemonade could be considered classic. The infighting of the overhyped, overpaid pop stars is also sad and hilarious because it's like which shitty cash cow computer music is better and deserves to be celebrated. He made his name with clever verses over samples and sped-up vocals, producing and remixing/redoing songs but IMHO his original output and solo material pale in comparison to the earlier shit and his collaborations.Its just that most of the other pop stuff is just as bad if not worse as they wannabe but there King Kanye is setting the bar at computer processed mumble rap singing as high art and bragging about it.
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Reply #9 posted 11/23/16 11:51am

heathilly

Yes truly this is when Kanye was on fire those first 4 albums are all classics. Heartbreak in particular being probably the most revolutionary. It really created a new sound that many people after him followed. It's unfortunate that the impotence for this album was his mothers death and he really was at the lowest point at this album similar to now. Hopefully he'll get help and maybe than he'll make something as great as this not similar in sound to avoid being redundant but in quality to really express where he is at this point in his life.
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Reply #10 posted 11/23/16 12:11pm

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Welcome to Heartbreak and Coldest Winter stand out to me. See you in my Nightmares, not so much
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Reply #11 posted 11/23/16 1:39pm

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This album was sooooo hated on when it was released, yet it produced Drake, James Blake, Frank Ocean, Kid Kudi, Travis Scott... However Kid Kudi had something to do with it too, and many others. Kanye deserves a price for popularising and making the direction big in music. The last 10 years of music has been directly or indirectly VERY MUCH influenced by Kanye.

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Reply #12 posted 11/23/16 8:04pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

Masterpeeeeece.... King Kanye ushered in a new era of marginally talented alpha males insincerely integrating emotional content into their hip hop music turned pop music, mainstreaming the autotune as some sort of singing perfection device for people who literally cannot sing while average people's dreams are crushed on YouTube comments or talent shows for being a little off key these fools are revered for singing through a machine. In a sea of turds, Kanye West stands out as the shiniest. It's like they say every time Kanye sings a talented angel loses its wings. The worst is when he "holds a note" pretending he is some sort of Intel-enhanced robotic R Kelly like in that Heartless song, absolute garbage and folks love it, eat it up like cake. It's sad what's happened to talent and entertainment this century that this or something like Lemonade could be considered classic. The infighting of the overhyped, overpaid pop stars is also sad and hilarious because it's like which shitty cash cow computer music is better and deserves to be celebrated. He made his name with clever verses over samples and sped-up vocals, producing and remixing/redoing songs but IMHO his original output and solo material pale in comparison to the earlier shit and his collaborations.Its just that most of the other pop stuff is just as bad if not worse as they wannabe but there King Kanye is setting the bar at computer processed mumble rap singing as high art and bragging about it.



Tell us how u really feel, lol. So if someone uses a computer to make music we should discredit them of talent? Computers and synths have been frowned upon by certain music fans for decades now. Van Halen got a lot of shit for it on Jump but that song is iconic.
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Reply #13 posted 11/23/16 11:15pm

alphastreet

I could not stop playing robocop back then and paranoid was my second favourite

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Reply #14 posted 11/23/16 11:19pm

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I agree, I think this was the album that made Kanye an innovator in the eyes of public, he then followed that with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, wow...

My favorite tracks off 808s: Heartless, Love Lockdown, Welcome to Heartbreak, RoboCop, The Coldest Winter..
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Reply #15 posted 11/23/16 11:23pm

alphastreet

Shawy89 said:

I agree, I think this was the album that made Kanye an innovator in the eyes of public, he then followed that with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, wow... My favorite tracks off 808s: Heartless, Love Lockdown, Welcome to Heartbreak, RoboCop, The Coldest Winter..

and then he ironically marries a spoiled little LA girl lol I feel like there was excitement about the graduation album and with this one it took awhile for the public to really appreciate it cause it was too ahead of it's time. I think when Drake released his first single, it became so successful cause of the similarity in sound and that's when the appreciation began.

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Reply #16 posted 11/25/16 9:42pm

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Yes!!

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Reply #17 posted 11/25/16 9:48pm

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Shawy89 said:

I agree, I think this was the album that made Kanye an innovator in the eyes of public, he then followed that with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, wow... My favorite tracks off 808s: Heartless, Love Lockdown, Welcome to Heartbreak, RoboCop, The Coldest Winter..

yeahthat thumbs up!

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Reply #18 posted 11/26/16 9:32am

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They don't play Kanye on the corner.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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