SoulAlive said:

ladygirl99 said:

She already move on since 1983. SHe left the group and didn't look back. She is doing things with her band and also solo stuff. If that is not moving on, I don't know what it is.

No,it doesn't really seem like she has "moved on".She took the time to write that long ass blog posting She apparently wants to keep this drama going.Why not just take the high road and ignore any talk about a Shalamar reunion (and why it hasn't happened)? Problem solved.

Thank you. Because the definition of moving on does not equate to long drawn out open letters with constant moans and grumps about what happened over 30 years ago in an R&B group with moderate success. That's called obsession and not having a life. She should be thanking her lucky stars for having the minor solo career that she did. Had she continued working on her craft, she may not be the unhappy has-been, drama queen, that she's turned out to be.

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phunkdaddy said:

SoulAlive said:

he's a freestyle artist who had one big hit,"One More Try",in 1991

Wow I researched it on Youtube and I don't remember him or this song at all which is amazing

considering I do remember Stevie B's Because I Love You.

I vaguely remember his song

exactly

missfee said:

SoulAlive said:

No,it doesn't really seem like she has "moved on".She took the time to write that long ass blog posting She apparently wants to keep this drama going.Why not just take the high road and ignore any talk about a Shalamar reunion (and why it hasn't happened)? Problem solved.

Thank you. Because the definition of moving on does not equate to long drawn out open letters with constant moans and grumps about what happened over 30 years ago in an R&B group with moderate success. That's called obsession and not having a life.

Cinny said:

Whoever is the biggest star to emerge from a group usually ARE the reason the groups don't reunite, so it has nothing to do with her gender (or blackness).

see:

-Eagles

-The Jacksons

-*NSync

-The Go-Go's

-No Doubt
-Guns N Roses

Agree and Disagree on that. The Go GO's all hated each other, the break had more to do with Jane Weidlin than Belinda, she was too stoned to know what was going on.

Didn't Jody talk about doing a solo album a few years ago?

purplethunder3121 said:

Didn't Jody talk about doing a solo album a few years ago?

Jody put out an Limited Editon EP - Paradise on her own label in 2014.

Like I said it is funny that Howard and Jeffery get a pass and they were the ones who went to Unsung first tell their story and yes they talk about the past because Shalamar is their only success and I saw the episode. And also they used her likeness in the past to generate more concert tickets a bait and switch tactic without telling her and even got fans mad at her for not showing up when she didn't knew, so where is the outcry? Jody has the right to defend herself yet she gets call bitter. Sexism at finest when a woman speaks her mind. Go Jody. Had it been a man he would have gotten the red carpet treatment.

I have follow Jody on and off via social media for years and lets say there are some huge exaggerations of her being bitter and stuck in the past.

ladygirl99 said:

Like I said it is funny that Howard and Jeffery get a pass and they were the ones who went to Unsung first tell their story and yes they talk about the past because Shalamar is their only success and I saw the episode. And also they used her likeness in the past to generate more concert tickets a bait and switch tactic without telling her and even got fans mad at her for not showing up when she didn't knew, so where is the outcry? Jody has the right to defend herself yet she gets call bitter. Sexism at finest when a woman speaks her mind. Go Jody. Had it been a man he would have gotten the red carpet treatment.

I have follow Jody on and off via social media for years and lets say there are some huge exaggerations of her being bitter and stuck in the past.

Serious reach there.

What did Howard and Jeffrey say on Unsung that was so bad about Jody? Howard even apologized

and took responsibility for his actions back then. Jody keeps beating a dead horse when it comes

to Shalamar and Howard and Jeff. Who said she didn't have a right to speak for herself? It's just

old hat now. Just do your music and let it go. Not sure sexism has anything to do with this. If you have to go on Youtube/Social media and post a long ass rant more than once and then try to make a guy (Gerald Brown whom she once laughed at in an interview on Video Soul when he was replaced by Howard) relevant when he wasn't even a part of the classic lineup reeks of desperation. No disrespect to Gerald but the majority of fans don't even associate him with Shalamar anymore than they do Micki Free or Delisa Davis and I actually like Micki Free. It's funny how she's team Gerald all of a sudden. I'm surprised she didn't invite him to join Shalamar Reloaded.

phunkdaddy said:

ladygirl99 said:

Like I said it is funny that Howard and Jeffery get a pass and they were the ones who went to Unsung first tell their story and yes they talk about the past because Shalamar is their only success and I saw the episode. And also they used her likeness in the past to generate more concert tickets a bait and switch tactic without telling her and even got fans mad at her for not showing up when she didn't knew, so where is the outcry? Jody has the right to defend herself yet she gets call bitter. Sexism at finest when a woman speaks her mind. Go Jody. Had it been a man he would have gotten the red carpet treatment.

I have follow Jody on and off via social media for years and lets say there are some huge exaggerations of her being bitter and stuck in the past.

Serious reach there.

What did Howard and Jeffrey say on Unsung that was so bad about Jody? Howard even apologized

and took responsibility for his actions back then. Jody keeps beating a dead horse when it comes

to Shalamar and Howard and Jeff. Who said she didn't have a right to speak for herself? It's just

old hat now. Just do your music and let it go. Not sure sexism has anything to do with this. If you have to go on Youtube/Social media and post a long ass rant more than once and then try to make a guy (Gerald Brown whom she once laughed at in an interview on Video Soul when he was replaced by Howard) relevant when he wasn't even a part of the classic lineup reeks of desperation. No disrespect to Gerald but the majority of fans don't even associate him with Shalamar anymore than they do Micki Free or Delisa Davis and I actually like Micki Free. It's funny how she's team Gerald all of a sudden. I'm surprised she didn't invite him to join Shalamar Reloaded.

If I recall Howard gave an half-assed admission / apology to what went down between them. Did we see the same Unsung?

Every couple of years Ms. Watley provides use with a rant. What can you or I say? Its obvious Jody's doesn't have a peace of mind , she's straight-up miserable. I don't know.... maybe therapy would help? Its late, to continue to chew on events that occurred decades, is a waste of time. Jody seems to be stuck, that can't be healthy.

Here's a recent Howard interview

ladygirl99 said:

Like I said it is funny that Howard and Jeffery get a pass and they were the ones who went to Unsung first tell their story and yes they talk about the past because Shalamar is their only success and I saw the episode. And also they used her likeness in the past to generate more concert tickets a bait and switch tactic without telling her and even got fans mad at her for not showing up when she didn't knew, so where is the outcry? Jody has the right to defend herself yet she gets call bitter. Sexism at finest when a woman speaks her mind. Go Jody. Had it been a man he would have gotten the red carpet treatment.

I have follow Jody on and off via social media for years and lets say there are some huge exaggerations of her being bitter and stuck in the past.

What exactly did Howard say in his Unsung episode that was soooooo terrible? Jeffrey correctly pointed out what went down during the shooting of that Babyface video.It's certainly not a big enough deal for Jody to go on a long ass rant about! Like I said earlier....if she really has truly "moved on",she would simply take the high road and not respond to anything regarding the old Shalamar that she no longer wants to be a part of.We get it: she dislikes Jeffrey and Howard and doesn't want to ever work with them again.Fine.End of story! Sheesh!

TD3 said:

Every couple of years Ms. Watley provides use with a rant. What can you or I say? Its obvious Jody's doesn't have a peace of mind , she's straight-up miserable. I don't know.... maybe therapy would help? Its late, to continue to chew on events that occurred decades, is a waste of time. Jody seems to be stuck, that can't be healthy.

Exactly.It's not healthy to hold onto so much hate and bitterness....still trippin' over things that happened decades ago.She does seem kinda miserable...and somewhat insecure.

TD3 said:

Whomever made the original post should compensate me for the 15 minutes of my life that I wasted reading this. It wasn't a waste because it was too long or repetitive or bitter or simply not really saying anything- it was a waste because I kept skimming through the old news clippings and pictorials hoping that she reposted her Playboy set on here. She didn't post that so now I'm looking for a new love.

phunkdaddy said:

TD3 said:

If I recall Howard gave an half-assed admission / apology to what went down between them. Did we see the same Unsung?

Every couple of years Ms. Watley provides use with a rant. What can you or I say? Its obvious Jody's doesn't have a peace of mind , she's straight-up miserable. I don't know.... maybe therapy would help? Its late, to continue to chew on events that occurred decades, is a waste of time. Jody seems to be stuck, that can't be healthy.

I don't have a problem with Jody not wanting to work with Howard and Jeffrey anymore although she agreed to do it for BET if she got to perform her solo songs which BET said no thanks. My problem with Jody is why did she wait so long to release this venom. It wasn't a problem when she was riding the wave of solo success. She waited until the late 2000's to carry this drama and won't move on. And she kills me trying to make Gerald Brown relevant to Shalamar. Wasn't there some drama between her and her good friend Jermaine Stewart back in the day too?

If you don't know by now.... I'll tell ya, women don't forget shit.

The making of Unsung, I suppose opened upped a can of worms than can't be resealed. I have know doubt the claims that Ms. Watley make against Howie, Jeff and Solar Records are true. But, it would be in Ms. Waltey's best interest to forgive (not forget) those folks and go from there. Shalamar should be a footnote to what Jody achieved as a solo artist. Yet, Watley continues to pick over the bones of something that was a jump off for much better and bigger things, her fucking career as a SOLO artist.

I agree the competing Shalamar's and Watley's obsession with Gerald Brown are laughable. Ultimately Ms. Wately needs to forgive so ol' girl can move on.

Jody kinda surprised me, usually her rants pop-up between Jan and Spring. Well, until the next rant... you know we haven't heard the last from this chick, be cool phunkdaddy.

CoolMF said:

Whomever made the original post should compensate me for the 15 minutes of my life that I wasted reading this. It wasn't a waste because it was too long or repetitive or bitter or simply not really saying anything- it was a waste because I kept skimming through the old news clippings and pictorials hoping that she reposted her Playboy set on here. She didn't post that so now I'm looking for a new love.

I need to read this omg

TD3 said:

Jody kinda surprised me, usually her rants pop-up between Jan and Spring. Well, until the next rant... you know we haven't heard the last from this chick

CoolMF said:

Whomever made the original post should compensate me for the 15 minutes of my life that I wasted reading this. It wasn't a waste because it was too long or repetitive or bitter or simply not really saying anything- it was a waste because I kept skimming through the old news clippings and pictorials hoping that she reposted her Playboy set on here. She didn't post that so now I'm looking for a new love.

CoolMF said:

TD3 said:

MickyDolenz said:

It's never a cool look making private emails public.

phunkdaddy said:

She sounds incredibly insecure and certifiably nuts.

That won't stop me from enjoying her catalog every now and then but I really can't stand the egotistical bitch that she's become.

purplethunder3121 said:

ladygirl99 said:

Jody has the right to tell her story in her own way and I hate when a black woman expressed her truth does it she consider to be bitter. Why Howard and Jeffery never called bitter as they were the ones who went to national tv first to tell their side.

She already move on since 1983. SHe left the group and didn't look back. She is doing things with her band and also solo stuff. If that is not moving on, I don't know what it is.

Howard still had to use Shalamar to make ends meet. He never crossover. He and Jeffery sounded bitter because they know that they need Jody than she needs them. And when Jeffery had hardship, Jody came to his need financially when she didn't have to do that. But fonts on the internet are too busy to blame her for the reason why the group never reunited.

I don't think anybody cares any more.

People commenting, so people must care.

I love Jody Watley & Howard Hewitt's music

seperate or together...it's all good!

(I also love Howard's ex-wife Nia Peeples,

and Jeffrey's ex-wife Stephanie Mills)

Jody speaks on The Soul Brother Show this Friday on KPFT 90.1 FM Houston!