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Thread started 08/30/16 3:31pm

Gunsnhalen

Morrissey & Racism.

I've always known Morrissey is a whiny little white tot. Who only seems to love latino boys and animals.... nothing else. But i feel uneasy hearing a lot of these racis remarks he's made over the year. Andhe even said he detests Stevie Wonder confused what kind of twat doesn't like Stevie? lol

It's really hard for me to not associate the music with the man. Or the fact that his fans let him get away with this shit. http://www.dallasobserver...ey-7054886

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Reply #1 posted 08/30/16 6:29pm

MotorBootyAffa
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I give less than a fuck if Morrissey hates Stevie Wonder, or anyone else for that matter. I'm sure lots of artists, musicians, singers, etc. hate Dylan, Prince, The Beatles, Miles Davis, Bowie, etc.

Don't Give A Fuck.

I don't, however, plan on tossing out my Smiths/ Morrissey cds either.

I will never, ever put stake in people's personal opinions on anything, music or otherwise, but I'd never hold anyone else to my own personal creed.

Do what you want.

I'm gonna go fix me roast beef sandwich.

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Reply #2 posted 08/30/16 7:12pm

1contessa

I don't even know who this clown is, so I truly don't give a ----.

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Reply #3 posted 08/30/16 7:52pm

Iamtheorg

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Not to mention his lyrics "Hang the dj, hang the dj, hang the dj...." regrding music in disco clubs "that the lyrics speak nothing to me" etc from Panic

Burn down the disco
Hang the blessed DJ
Because the music that they constantly play
It says nothing to me about my life
Hang the blessed DJ
Because the music they constantly play

On the Leeds side-streets that you slip down
The provincial towns you jog 'round
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ
Hang the DJ

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Reply #4 posted 08/30/16 8:22pm

Gunsnhalen

MotorBootyAffair said:

I give less than a fuck if Morrissey hates Stevie Wonder, or anyone else for that matter. I'm sure lots of artists, musicians, singers, etc. hate Dylan, Prince, The Beatles, Miles Davis, Bowie, etc.

Don't Give A Fuck.

I don't, however, plan on tossing out my Smiths/ Morrissey cds either.

I will never, ever put stake in people's personal opinions on anything, music or otherwise, but I'd never hold anyone else to my own personal creed.

Do what you want.

I'm gonna go fix me roast beef sandwich.

k

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Reply #5 posted 08/31/16 1:28am

EmmaMcG

I don't think he's racist, I think he's just looking for some publicity. He definitely seems the type on insecure twat that would stoop that low to get his name in the papers.

And what's with this meat is murder nonsense? If he wants to be a vegan, then fine. Just don't shove your beliefs down everybody else's throat. Again, I don't think he necessarily cares what other people do, but coming out with outrageous statements like "I can smell meat, I hope it's human" is guaranteed to make headlines.


I do agree with his opinions on Paul McCartney though razz
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Reply #6 posted 08/31/16 1:48am

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I love Mozza and won't hear a bad word said against him.

My favourite Mozza quote is when he compared eating meat to pedophilia and said, in his eyes, they were no different.

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Reply #7 posted 08/31/16 3:13am

Hamad

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Um,,,"black supremacy"? confuse But he hates Pakistanis & call Chinese people "subspecies". Yet, the guy still have a career lol you can't tell me that white privilege doesn't exist. Wow.

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Reply #8 posted 08/31/16 1:15pm

datdude

I'm glad my ears have never been defiled by this bitch. Go choke on a dick
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Reply #9 posted 08/31/16 3:18pm

paisleypark4

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Who is she? lol

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Reply #10 posted 08/31/16 3:20pm

Adorecream

Same with me, his and the Smiths music is boring as heck, just because he is gay, does not mean I have to like him. He is probably jealous of the success of mainstream music and some of that is by Black artists (Well a lot of it lol).

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Morrisey has never had more than moderate success in the UK and is barely known outside of it and possibly the British world (Some poofter here was in a local book about collections with his Smiths/Morrisey records). Basically in British speak, Morrisey is what we call a CHAV (Council House and Violent), he is from a white working class English background which is usually never good for British race relations, the fact he is gay and seems to have an IQ closer to 100 than 75 may elevate him above the mire a bit. The best people of this type are the Billy Elliots and the worst are like the BNP voting, soccer hooligans with bald heads and speak about beating up Pakis and Muzzies.

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Bascially they are people we should ignore, listening to Morriseys depressing and boring crap, I am amazed he did not off himself in the 80s. Also bear in mind, he is not a 25 year old neophyte, he was born in 1959 making him 57 or advanced middle age in years. Basically he is washed up has been.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #11 posted 08/31/16 6:21pm

MotownSubdivis
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A gay racist? This is new.
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Reply #12 posted 08/31/16 6:25pm

NinaB

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Miserable sod, no wonder his girlfriend was in a coma.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #13 posted 08/31/16 8:37pm

pinkeekeen

lol exactly

paisleypark4 said:

Who is she? lol

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Reply #14 posted 09/01/16 2:39am

OperatingTheta
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You criticise Morrissey for alleged racism, yet open your post by calling him a 'whiny little white tot'?

Am I the only one seeing the irony here?
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Reply #15 posted 09/01/16 4:53am

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OperatingThetan said:

You criticise Morrissey for alleged racism, yet open your post by calling him a 'whiny little white tot'? Am I the only one seeing the irony here?

Yes, you are the only one. Mentioning a person's race is not racism. He is making vile racist comments and will get a pass while if he were a minority saying the same crap he would be roasted by the media. (This bullshit in of itself is racist and a perfect example of white privilege). People like this asshole can say whatever they want with no repercussions.

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Reply #16 posted 09/01/16 4:56am

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EmmaMcG said:

I don't think he's racist, I think he's just looking for some publicity. He definitely seems the type on insecure twat that would stoop that low to get his name in the papers. And what's with this meat is murder nonsense? If he wants to be a vegan, then fine. Just don't shove your beliefs down everybody else's throat. Again, I don't think he necessarily cares what other people do, but coming out with outrageous statements like "I can smell meat, I hope it's human" is guaranteed to make headlines. I do agree with his opinions on Paul McCartney though razz

This is what we mean by white privilege. He is making vile racist comments about a few ethinic groups and your not sure if he is a racist. Racism will never go away if we keep giving people a pass.

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Reply #17 posted 09/01/16 5:23am

MattyJam

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Look, the "Chinese are a subspecies" quote was taken completely out of context. It originated from an interview where he was talking about dogs and cats being served up as a delicacy in China.

And to claim that him not liking Stevie Wonder or Diana Ross as musicians is a form of racism is beyond absurd.

People see one little headline or soundbite taken out of context and think that gives them enough to go on to judge a person, when we all know how the media can cherry-pick certain quotes to make someone appear as if they've said something they haven't.

Morrissey is probably singularly the most intelligent, unique and compassionate artist alive today, but because he has strong opinions and isn't afraid to voice them often to the detriment of his own public image/career, he is an easy target for the media and for sheeple who know jack shit about who he is and what he stands for.

Educate yourselves before making a judgement on someone, because a lot of you are just highlighting your own ignorance.

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Reply #18 posted 09/01/16 5:29am

EmmaMcG

laurarichardson said:



EmmaMcG said:


I don't think he's racist, I think he's just looking for some publicity. He definitely seems the type on insecure twat that would stoop that low to get his name in the papers. And what's with this meat is murder nonsense? If he wants to be a vegan, then fine. Just don't shove your beliefs down everybody else's throat. Again, I don't think he necessarily cares what other people do, but coming out with outrageous statements like "I can smell meat, I hope it's human" is guaranteed to make headlines. I do agree with his opinions on Paul McCartney though razz

This is what we mean by white privilege. He is making vile racist comments about a few ethinic groups and your not sure if he is a racist. Racism will never go away if we keep giving people a pass.



I'm not saying his comments are not offensive. I'm saying that in my opinion, he seems like the kind of attention seeking twat who makes racist comments for publicity. He may very well be racist. But saying something and believing it are two different things.

But I agree that people shouldn't be given a pass for these types of comments. The worst thing you could do to this arsehole is to ignore him. He would hate that. Maybe if the papers stopped printing his bullshit he'd stop talking out of his arse.
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Reply #19 posted 09/01/16 8:44am

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Bear in mind, when reading what follows, that I was a Smiths/Morrissey fan for years, and there was a period (most of the 90s) when I quite admired him. I still enjoy a lot of his "music" (most of it is done by Johnny Marr and his solo-era collaborators like Vini Reilly and others):

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1) MORRISSEY AS AN IDIOT
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It's hard to know where to begin. Here are some of his claims / lyrics over the years:
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-- In an interview last year with an online magazine for teenage girls (!), Morrissey made the following asinine claim: "“If more men were homosexual, there would be no wars, because homosexual men would never kill other men, whereas heterosexual men love killing other men.”
Here's one of numerous sources for it: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 13072.html
Is Morrissey actually stupid enough not to know that millions of soldiers and probably countless thousands of military leaders were gay/bi/queer?? (For example, virtually all of ancient Rome.) This claim alone proves that Morrissey is an idiot.
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-- Two years ago, the Guardian sarcastically referred to Morrissey as "a man with extensive knowledge of pregnancy and its side-effects". They wrote this because of M's accusing the Royals of being dishonest about the Duchess of Cambridge's pregnancy. The Guardian aptly notes that "the nonpareil performer and lyricist who fronted the Smiths passed away some years ago and was covertly replaced by a stand-in who looks like Morrissey and sounds like Morrissey, but gives the game away by dint of the fact that he appears to be an idiot." Link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/ ... rnet-troll
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-- Morrissey thinks the life of one amoeba is more important than the lives of 1,000,000 humans. To wit: three years ago, 76 people were brutally murdered in cold blood, in Norway. Days later, on stage in Poland, M declared that "that is nothing compared to what happens in McDonald’s and Kentucky Fried Shit every day". One could applaud M's hard stance in defending animal rights... but one would more likely conclude that Morrissey is simply an idiot.
(This comment was reported by too many sources to mention, but this one endears itself to me by its headline: "Morrissey is an idiot who is out of touch with reality":http://www.skepticcanary.com/2011/07/28 ... h-reality/)
(See also Supajam, which titles its piece: "Morrissey reveals himself to be total idiot":http://www.supajam.com/news/story/Morri ... al-idiot-1)
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-- A few years ago, Morrissey took the ultra-idiotic step of attempting to ban his own fans from his concerts: http://www.morrissey-solo.com/content/2 ... s-for-life
Apparently, David Tseng, who ran a fan website, was "poisonous". Morrissey's spokesperson said: "Mr Tseng via his poisonous website has caused so much intentional distress to Morrissey and Morrissey's band over the years that Mr Tseng is not welcome at any Morrissey shows." So, there ya go! If you're an undesirable, you don't get into Morrissey's shows!! (Facist much?)
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-- Morrissey decided to ban Canada (evil empire as its generally known to be) entirely from his tours because of the seal hunt in the far north, which about 1 in every 10 million Canadians participates in. (He seems to have no problem paying his taxes to the US government to fund its military though -- guess he'd lose too much money by banning US cities.) So, he's punishing his own fans for the actions of a few hundred people they've never seen or met. What an ass.
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-- Let's not forget that Morrissey was permanently traumatized by having to pay Smiths' ex-drummer Mike Joyce his fair share of royalties. Even the high-court described poor, gentle Morrissey as "devious and truculent".
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I could go on. The only conclusion to be drawn? Morrissey is an idiot.
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2) MORRISSEY AS A RACIST
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It started as a vague attitude of xenophobia, then merged into paranoid tribal preservation of whites, then blossomed into full-blown racism (helped along, of course, by idiocy).
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-- The song "Bengali in Platforms" (the title is offensive enough): "Bengali in platforms / He only wants to embrace your culture / And to be your friend forever."
The song then carries on, with great class: "Oh, shelve your western plans / And understand / That life is hard enough when you belong here."
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-- Obviously repentant and sensitized from the first album, his 2nd album features "Asian Rut". (Not to mention the later "National Front Disco".)
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-- Classy quote from 1994: "[I don't] really think, for instance, black people and white people will ever really get on or like each other. I don't really think they ever will."
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-- 1997: "England is a memory now. The gates are flooded and anybody can have access to England and join in."
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-- In 2010, Morrissey describes Chinese people as a "sub-species". Here's one of numerous links:http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/se ... ies-racism
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The entirety of M's multicultural worldview is nicely summarized by the humor publication 'Cracked' on its website: http://www.cracked.com/funny-6605-morrissey/ (you have to scroll down to 'Accusations of Racism'). The best quote might be: "Morrissey has been accused of racism so many times that the American Nazi Party began sending him free literature in the mail."

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Reply #20 posted 09/01/16 10:34am

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EmmaMcG said:

laurarichardson said:



EmmaMcG said:


I don't think he's racist, I think he's just looking for some publicity. He definitely seems the type on insecure twat that would stoop that low to get his name in the papers. And what's with this meat is murder nonsense? If he wants to be a vegan, then fine. Just don't shove your beliefs down everybody else's throat. Again, I don't think he necessarily cares what other people do, but coming out with outrageous statements like "I can smell meat, I hope it's human" is guaranteed to make headlines. I do agree with his opinions on Paul McCartney though razz

This is what we mean by white privilege. He is making vile racist comments about a few ethinic groups and your not sure if he is a racist. Racism will never go away if we keep giving people a pass.



I'm not saying his comments are not offensive. I'm saying that in my opinion, he seems like the kind of attention seeking twat who makes racist comments for publicity. He may very well be racist. But saying something and believing it are two different things.

But I agree that people shouldn't be given a pass for these types of comments. The worst thing you could do to this arsehole is to ignore him. He would hate that. Maybe if the papers stopped printing his bullshit he'd stop talking out of his arse.

-- Do you really think he is saying this stuff and does not believe it.
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Reply #21 posted 09/01/16 12:34pm

EmmaMcG

laurarichardson said:

EmmaMcG said:



I'm not saying his comments are not offensive. I'm saying that in my opinion, he seems like the kind of attention seeking twat who makes racist comments for publicity. He may very well be racist. But saying something and believing it are two different things.

But I agree that people shouldn't be given a pass for these types of comments. The worst thing you could do to this arsehole is to ignore him. He would hate that. Maybe if the papers stopped printing his bullshit he'd stop talking out of his arse.

-- Do you really think he is saying this stuff and does not believe it.


I don't know. He may or may not. Only he really knows what's truly on his mind. I'm just saying that if you look at everything this guy has said over the years, from minor things like his comments on the Royal family to more serious matters like saying black people and white people will never get on, he knows how to rile people up and get the press talking about him. Similarly to people like Kanye West and Shia LaBeouf, you can't be sure if they're THAT delusional or if it's just some sort of awful publicity stunt. Whatever way you look at it, whether he's a racist or just a publicity hound, he's a prick with an unwarranted sense of self importance.
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Reply #22 posted 09/01/16 12:52pm

NorthC

MotownSubdivision said:

A gay racist? This is new.

No, it isn't.
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Reply #23 posted 09/01/16 12:54pm

NorthC

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Miserable sod, no wonder his girlfriend was in a coma.

That's below the belt, Nina. confused
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Reply #24 posted 09/01/16 12:55pm

NorthC

OperatingThetan said:

You criticise Morrissey for alleged racism, yet open your post by calling him a 'whiny little white tot'?

Am I the only one seeing the irony here?

No, you're not. wink
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Reply #25 posted 09/01/16 1:10pm

NorthC

Hamad said:

Um,,,"black supremacy"? confuse But he hates Pakistanis & call Chinese people "subspecies". Yet, the guy still have a career lol you can't tell me that white privilege doesn't exist. Wow.


I once saw a TV documentary where dr. Alice Roberts tracked the history of mankind from the very beginning in Africa and she got to China where a Chinese scientist tried to convince her that the Chinese oriented in China and not in Africa. So there are Chinese who are willing to believe that they are a "subspecies" that's different (and therefore more special) from other humans. Nonsense of course, we all, you, Hamad, me, GunsHalen, Matty, Emma, Adore, Laura, you name 'em, we all come from that small group of people in East Africa that said to each other, "Hey, let's go and see what's beyond the horizon." And they finally ended up all the way in New Zealand. But we're all part of the same family.
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Reply #26 posted 09/01/16 1:12pm

SoulAlive

paisleypark4 said:

Who is she? lol

biggrin I know who he is,but I honestly can't name one song by him.Maybe he's a cult artist?

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Reply #27 posted 09/01/16 1:14pm

NorthC

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paisleypark4 said:


Who is she? lol




biggrin I know who he is,but I honestly can't name one song by him.Maybe he's a cult artist?


He's The Last of the Famous International Playboys.
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Reply #28 posted 09/01/16 1:49pm

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NorthC said:

NinaB said:

Miserable sod, no wonder his girlfriend was in a coma.

That's below the belt, Nina. confused

Don't be silly, it's an old joke, a play on his hit single in the 80's. What's below the belt is spewing xenophobic racist shite.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #29 posted 09/01/16 1:53pm

EmmaMcG

NorthC said:

Hamad said:

Um,,,"black supremacy"? confuse But he hates Pakistanis & call Chinese people "subspecies". Yet, the guy still have a career lol you can't tell me that white privilege doesn't exist. Wow.


I once saw a TV documentary where dr. Alice Roberts tracked the history of mankind from the very beginning in Africa and she got to China where a Chinese scientist tried to convince her that the Chinese oriented in China and not in Africa. So there are Chinese who are willing to believe that they are a "subspecies" that's different (and therefore more special) from other humans. Nonsense of course, we all, you, Hamad, me, GunsHalen, Matty, Emma, Adore, Laura, you name 'em, we all come from that small group of people in East Africa that said to each other, "Hey, let's go and see what's beyond the horizon." And they finally ended up all the way in New Zealand. But we're all part of the same family.
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When you put it like that, it sounds really sweet. smile
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