PatrickS77 said:

Billie Jean

Give in to me

Is it scary

certainly would be in my top 5.

Is It Scary is another thing, quite sad.

214 said:

PatrickS77 said:

Billie Jean

Give in to me

Is it scary

certainly would be in my top 5.

Is It Scary is another thing, quite sad.

That's from Ghosts right? the video that features MJ's stalker I mean "secret" girlfriend Shana.....the one he didn't know he had

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Goddess4Real said:

214 said:

Is It Scary is another thing, quite sad.

That's from Ghosts right? the video that features MJ's stalker I mean "secret" girlfriend Shana.....the one he didn't know he had

[Edited 9/9/16 19:21pm]

Is it scary desserved a video but a serious and dark one not something like Ghosts

Stranger in Moscow is a little masterpiece. To me the greatest MJ song ever. Even better than Billie Jean, Beat It or DSTYGEnough. If only MJ had been preoccupied with making songs like this one and not #1 radio fast food hits after Thriller...

ML2016 said:

ML2016 said:

Stranger in Moscow is a little masterpiece. To me the greatest MJ song ever. Even better than Billie Jean, Beat It or DSTYGEnough. If only MJ had been preoccupied with making songs like this one and not #1 radio fast food hits after Thriller...

He did, but you're right is a masterpiece.

Carol Burnett talked to Entertainment Tonight regarding her new book and remembers working with Michael and the J5:

As one of the most popular TV shows of all time, Burnett reminiscences fondly about her guest stars, like Dick Van Dyke and Joan Rivers, while talking about the more memorable episodes. One in particular definitely stands out.

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Burnett recalls when The Jackson 5 made a guest appearance on the hit show, which ran from 1967 to 1978. She goes on to explain the skit they were performing, and how an unexpected earthquake shook the stage. Despite the semi-traumatic experience, Burnett says the musicians remained shy and sweet.

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The comedic legend also reveals that it pained her to see how Michael Jackson felt about his appearance.

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"I'm still sad that Michael thought he was unattractive," she writes. "I thought he was beautiful."

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It's no secret the late King of Pop's looks changed dramatically throughout his career, reportedly undergoing his first plastic surgery in his early 20's.

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Here's an exclusive excerpt from the book:

The first time Michael, Jackie, Jermaine, Tito, and Marlon -- along with their youngest brother, Randy -- were on our show was March 16, 1974.

The Jacksons performed "Dancing Machine," featuring the incredibly talented sixteen-year-old Michael, and later on in the show they took part in our finale, portraying bored "students" (along with our dancers) in a classroom run by an uptight old biddy (me) attempting to teach the kids how to read music.

Pointing to a music staff written on a chalkboard, the teacher proceeds to pontificate.

TEACHER: "This is 'Mr. A,' he is sharp. This is 'Mrs. B,' she is flat. Now, if Mr. A and Mrs. B get married and move into a home, can you tell me what happens?"

JACKIE: : "They give birth to the blues!"

The classroom erupts in laughter, much to the teacher's annoyance.

TEACHER: "NO THEY DON'T! They give birth to 'Baby C'! Now to review, this is a Sharp, this is a Flat, and this is a Natural."

RANDY: (Pointing to his Afro) "No, this is a natural!"

My character continues trying to engage a totally disinterested bunch of kids, when out of the blue . . . there is an earthquake!

I mean a real earthquake.

The stage lights above us started swaying like crazy, and everybody in Studio 33 stopped breathing for a few seconds, until the jolt was over. I glanced at our audience, and no one had moved. I figured I should keep on going with the scene, and as the teacher I said, "No visiting, no visiting! The earth just moved. See what can happen when you pay attention!"

There were no more jolts and we finished the number, none the worse for wear.

The Jacksons were very shy during rehearsals, so very, very shy. But when it came time to perform, they blew the roof off the studio! They were the sweetest kids in the world, and I couldn't wait to have them back with us. They graced our show with their fantastic talents three times. I'm still sad that Michael thought he was unattractive. I thought he was beautiful.

So MJ went to Caribou Ranch in Colorado in 1984 to record a song for BAD. Anybody know what song it was? Could it have been Buffalo Bill?

Buffalo Bill was a song about how William "Buffalo Bill" Cody died. When I looked into it further, Cody died in Denver, Colorardo. I need to know more.

[Edited 9/15/16 8:05am]

thedoorkeeper said:

Has Buffalo Bill ever leaked? I remember hearing about it after Thriller. Always thought it sounded intriguing.

Never leaked.

The full version of this jam is off the charts.......

This was one great jam.......always loved it

Scorp said:

Goddess4Real said:

Michael Jackson's Best Five Songs http://www.inquisitr.com/...est-songs/

Mine

1. The way you make me feel - why? it is the quintessential MJ song, it has the powerhouse vocals, sure beat, determined girl chasing message and aows, plus its very funky and well written.

2. Beat It - No reason needed

3. Smooth Criminal - As above

4. Who is it - Best 90s song

5. Billie Jean - the song that made me and 60 million other people fans and converts to Thriller, its perfect, powerhouse pop, amazing dancing and just oozing coolness.

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Top 2000s song - Break of Dawn, it is just perfect

Top 1970s song - Rock with you - I love it

Best Jacksons song - Walk right now.

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The list is pretty good and I agree strongly with earth song, the problem with MJ is his near perfect discography, I think of all the exceptional songs that missed the cut for that Top 5.

Adorecream said:

Goddess4Real said:

Michael Jackson's Best Five Songs http://www.inquisitr.com/...est-songs/

Mine

1. The way you make me feel - why? it is the quintessential MJ song, it has the powerhouse vocals, sure beat, determined girl chasing message and aows, plus its very funky and well written.

2. Beat It - No reason needed

3. Smooth Criminal - As above

4. Who is it - Best 90s song

5. Billie Jean - the song that made me and 60 million other people fans and converts to Thriller, its perfect, powerhouse pop, amazing dancing and just oozing coolness.

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Top 2000s song - Break of Dawn, it is just perfect

Top 1970s song - Rock with you - I love it

Best Jacksons song - Walk right now.

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The list is pretty good and I agree strongly with earth song, the problem with MJ is his near perfect discography, I think of all the exceptional songs that missed the cut for that Top 5.

Do you like Destiny, Bless His Soul and That's What You Get from The Jacksons's Destiny album.

Adorecream said:

Goddess4Real said:

Michael Jackson's Best Five Songs http://www.inquisitr.com/...est-songs/

Mine

1. The way you make me feel - why? it is the quintessential MJ song, it has the powerhouse vocals, sure beat, determined girl chasing message and aows, plus its very funky and well written.

2. Beat It - No reason needed

3. Smooth Criminal - As above

4. Who is it - Best 90s song

5. Billie Jean - the song that made me and 60 million other people fans and converts to Thriller, its perfect, powerhouse pop, amazing dancing and just oozing coolness.

.

Top 2000s song - Break of Dawn, it is just perfect

Top 1970s song - Rock with you - I love it

Best Jacksons song - Walk right now.

.

The list is pretty good and I agree strongly with earth song, the problem with MJ is his near perfect discography, I think of all the exceptional songs that missed the cut for that Top 5.

Good list, love the inclusion of SC and Who is it.

Mine:

1) Billie Jean - pop perfection

2) Stranger in Moscow - great latter day classic

3) Who Is It - Dark and daring

4) Smooth Criminal - never get tired of it.

5) Butterflies - That falsetto..

Honourable mention: Is It Scary. I don't think he has ever been that honest.

A Michael Jackson Sample Tree

BT11 said:

Adorecream said:

Mine

1. The way you make me feel - why? it is the quintessential MJ song, it has the powerhouse vocals, sure beat, determined girl chasing message and aows, plus its very funky and well written.

2. Beat It - No reason needed

3. Smooth Criminal - As above

4. Who is it - Best 90s song

5. Billie Jean - the song that made me and 60 million other people fans and converts to Thriller, its perfect, powerhouse pop, amazing dancing and just oozing coolness.

.

Top 2000s song - Break of Dawn, it is just perfect

Top 1970s song - Rock with you - I love it

Best Jacksons song - Walk right now.

.

The list is pretty good and I agree strongly with earth song, the problem with MJ is his near perfect discography, I think of all the exceptional songs that missed the cut for that Top 5.

Good list, love the inclusion of SC and Who is it.

Mine:

1) Billie Jean - pop perfection

2) Stranger in Moscow - great latter day classic

3) Who Is It - Dark and daring

4) Smooth Criminal - never get tired of it.

5) Butterflies - That falsetto..

Honourable mention: Is It Scary. I don't think he has ever been that honest.

I think the same, it's a masterpiece song, the vocal performance is to die for.

214 said:

Me three,

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I listen to Ghosts and Is it scary together as a unit, like a mini musical suite. I love both songs, but like Ghosts a bit more, as it has the urgency in his vocals and it has a great hook - 'Tell me, are the ghost of jealousy?, hee hee"

Adorecream said:

Me three,

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I listen to Ghosts and Is it scary together as a unit, like a mini musical suite. I love both songs, but like Ghosts a bit more, as it has the urgency in his vocals and it has a great hook - 'Tell me, are the ghost of jealousy?, hee hee"

And the sound in the background, but to me Is It Scary is better and more painful than Ghosts a very sad song.

Adorecream said:

Me three,

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I listen to Ghosts and Is it scary together as a unit, like a mini musical suite. I love both songs, but like Ghosts a bit more, as it has the urgency in his vocals and it has a great hook - 'Tell me, are the ghost of jealousy?, hee hee"

It's funny how both songs start with the same lyrics but veer off in totally different directions. So for that fact, to me, those songs belong together too... kinda like one idea, but taken in different directions on both songs. While I love Ghosts, I prefer Is it scary. To me everything on that song is perfection. A real masterpiece.

PatrickS77 said:

Adorecream said:

Me three,

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I listen to Ghosts and Is it scary together as a unit, like a mini musical suite. I love both songs, but like Ghosts a bit more, as it has the urgency in his vocals and it has a great hook - 'Tell me, are the ghost of jealousy?, hee hee"

It's funny how both songs start with the same lyrics but veer off in totally different directions. So for that fact, to me, those songs belong together too... kinda like one idea, but taken in different directions on both songs. While I love Ghosts, I prefer Is it scary. To me everything on that song is perfection. A real masterpiece.

Totally, he really pours out a variety of emotions in those songs, from anger to fear in a few bars. Not many singers can do that in the one song and like all great Michael Jackson songs, it has this power going through it, like there is something very majestic about Michael's singing and his presence.

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I like the same set up being used in Morphine too, from frenetic power driven anger vocals to with the withdrawn sedate "Demerol, he's taking demerol part" and then back to the anger part. Blood on the Dancefloor album was easily more overlooked than Invincible and deserves much more praise and notice.

Adorecream said:

PatrickS77 said:

It's funny how both songs start with the same lyrics but veer off in totally different directions. So for that fact, to me, those songs belong together too... kinda like one idea, but taken in different directions on both songs. While I love Ghosts, I prefer Is it scary. To me everything on that song is perfection. A real masterpiece.

Totally, he really pours out a variety of emotions in those songs, from anger to fear in a few bars. Not many singers can do that in the one song and like all great Michael Jackson songs, it has this power going through it, like there is something very majestic about Michael's singing and his presence.

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I like the same set up being used in Morphine too, from frenetic power driven anger vocals to with the withdrawn sedate "Demerol, he's taking demerol part" and then back to the anger part. Blood on the Dancefloor album was easily more overlooked than Invincible and deserves much more praise and notice.

Yes, it is and the very reason I was so disappointed with Invincible. I thought BODTF would be the new direction. I mean, can you imagine an album full of Ghosts, Is it Scary and Morphine type songs?? But instead he took a step back into more safe territory with Invincible, even though initially he seemed to have a totally different set of songs.

PatrickS77 said:

Adorecream said:

Totally, he really pours out a variety of emotions in those songs, from anger to fear in a few bars. Not many singers can do that in the one song and like all great Michael Jackson songs, it has this power going through it, like there is something very majestic about Michael's singing and his presence.

.

I like the same set up being used in Morphine too, from frenetic power driven anger vocals to with the withdrawn sedate "Demerol, he's taking demerol part" and then back to the anger part. Blood on the Dancefloor album was easily more overlooked than Invincible and deserves much more praise and notice.

Yes, it is and the very reason I was so disappointed with Invincible. I thought BODTF would be the new direction. I mean, can you imagine an album full of Ghosts, Is it Scary and Morphine type songs?? But instead he took a step back into more safe territory with Invincible, even though initially he seemed to have a totally different set of songs.

I agree he was going back to a formula that worked at the time for Dangerous and arguably the albums before and though he did it well, the authenticity of what he could have done instead was lost. Though I played Invincible non stop upon release and remember buying it the day it came out, though Unbreakable was very nice, it did not grab me the way anything on BOTDF or anything before did and the new music wasn't unlike anything in r&b/hip hop that had been released in the past 5 years. I guess that's what happens when going on about a new sound and building expectations as was happening at the time. There was good moments on the album, but the gems I feel came later on when he released Ultimate Collection, Fall Again, We've Had Enough and the other tracks trumps everything on Invincible if you ask me.

I thought Invincible was forgettable. I just didn't care much for it besides Butterflies, Break of Dawn, and Heaven Can Wait. Songs like The Lost Children, Privacy, etc. are terrible. IMO, the whole deal with Mottola was MJ not owning up to the fact the album was below average to his standards. And the talk about MJ purposely holding back better material is ridiculous. For once, MJ just didn't make a great album. You had Jerkins who sounded too much like that era and Teddy Riley who was past his prime. Dr. Freeze was the best producer to work on that album. Actually, Dangerous was the last great album from start to finish that MJ made. The rest weren't as consistent and strong.

tbh I did think BOTDF was outdated when I first got it, until I read how those tracks ended up on the album on MJIFC and other fansites at the time. But at least he was being himself.

I think when MJ spoke out againist Motolla, Invincible was used to make a point, and he was addressing a larger systemic issue in the music industry, and cited specific examples of that period as well. Regardless of how the material was, the promotion strategy was poor and copies were not being stocked despite some of the public looking for copies. I also remember many were surprised at the time of release the album was released already and they felt bad not realizing when I was jamming away to it on my headphones. YRMW was popular but there were no commercials or posters or anything.

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alphastreet said:

tbh I did think BOTDF was outdated when I first got it, until I read how those tracks ended up on the album on MJIFC and other fansites at the time. But at least he was being himself.

I think when MJ spoke out againist Motolla, Invincible was used to make a point, and he was addressing a larger systemic issue in the music industry, and cited specific examples of that period as well. Regardless of how the material was, the promotion strategy was poor and copies were not being stocked despite some of the public looking for copies. I also remember many were surprised at the time of release the album was released already and they felt bad not realizing when I was jamming away to it on my headphones. YRMW was popular but there were no commercials or posters or anything.

[Edited 10/4/16 10:15am]

Don't forget when the album came out... Right around 9/11. That kind of ruined whatever good there was of the album. I remember some radio stations shying away from YRMW because of the title and how it could've been related to 9/11. Just unfortunate timing in that regard.

Derek1984 said:

History album is great, Dangerous it's not his last great album.