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MotownSubdivision said:

MichaelJackson5 said:

Considering you're a Madonna fan, are you in a position to criticize the vocals of any other artists with the exception of maybe Bob Dylan?

That's like me saying another artist is too eccentric and obsessed with young boys.

You have an unhealthy obsession with inserting Michael Jackson into everything. You don't seem to know that.

That's because he hates MJ and takes every opportunity to mock and disrespect him but then he turns around and insists"he is a fan" and expects people to believe his b.s.

mjscarousal said:

MotownSubdivision said:

MichaelJackson5 said: You have an unhealthy obsession with inserting Michael Jackson into everything. You don't seem to know that.

That's because he hates MJ and takes every opportunity to mock and disrespect him but then he turns around and insists"he is a fan" and expects people to believe his b.s.

MotownSubdivision said:

MichaelJackson5 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

You have an unhealthy obsession with inserting Michael Jackson into everything. You don't seem to know that.

It's not an obsession. When dealing with Madonna fans critically, the first thing they will do is attack MJ considering my user name. I acted in a preemptive manner so this person couldn't attack MJ. I saved MJ from an attack. MJ and Madonna fans generally aren't the best of buddies on the internet. And when I read one of them talking about vocals, it's ridiculous considering Madonna's big weakness is her voice.

that's like pushing someone in front of a car to stop them from being hit by a bus

thedoorkeeper said:

Is Perfect Illusion getting any airplay? Anybody hearing it?

I don't think anyone on the org can stomach top 40 radio. She's at number 22 on airplay after 7 days, I don't know if that's great or not.

http://kworb.net/radio/

MichaelJackson5 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

You have an unhealthy obsession with inserting Michael Jackson into everything. You don't seem to know that.

It's not an obsession. When dealing with Madonna fans critically, the first thing they will do is attack MJ considering my user name. I acted in a preemptive manner so this person couldn't attack MJ. I saved MJ from an attack. MJ and Madonna fans generally aren't the best of buddies on the internet. And when I read one of them talking about vocals, it's ridiculous considering Madonna's big weakness is her voice.

I think you are generalizing too much. I'm a Madonna fan and I like MJ's music. You complain about Madonna fans but then you attack Madonna as not being able to sing. If you attack someone's talent, don't be surprised if their fans defend them. I don't think you would like it if people attack MJ's talent, so don't attack Madonna's. Treat people the way you like to be treated!

Glindathegood said:

badujunkie said:

How many ways can Nile reproduce the entire Like A Virgin LP for her

MichaelJackson5 said:

Glindathegood said:

I think you are generalizing too much. I'm a Madonna fan and I like MJ's music. You complain about Madonna fans but then you attack Madonna as not being able to sing. If you attack someone's talent, don't be surprised if their fans defend them. I don't think you would like it if people attack MJ's talent, so don't attack Madonna's. Treat people the way you like to be treated!

It's an established consensus among music industry experts that Madonna's vocal range is extremely limited. Put it this way - she became a star in spite of her vocal abilities which is a documented fact. Her fans shouldn't need to be defensive when it's pointed out. Carole King enjoyed a tremendous career despite her limited vocal range. But M fans are defensive because they know it's true. If one were to claim that Whitney or Mariah lacked vocal range, their fans would just laugh at such a ludicrous statement. So when I read a Madonna fan saying Gaga's vocals are terrible, that's fucking ridiculous. Madonna's throat is good for one thing and it has nothing to do with music. Her fans can criticize Jackson's talent all they do want but Jackson was the superior singer, songwriter and performer so they have to deflect the argument towards his personal life. Jackson videos have pushed the envelope and consistently raised the bar for the format while Madonna's only iconic video is Like a Prayer for it's controversial black Jesus. Maybe Material Girl but it's sort of ripping off Marilyn Monroe. Madonna fans should be happy about Gaga. As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Dude, this thread has nothing to do with MJ or Madonna. Stop it.

Lady Gaga last night unveiled the video for “Perfect Illusion,” during the season-two premiere of Scream Queens on Fox. And here it is.

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Here's the deluxe tracklisting:

"Diamond Heart"
"A-Yo"
"Joanne"
"John Wayne"
"Dancin' in Circles"
"Perfect Illusion"
"Million Reasons"
"Sinner's Prayer"
"Come to Mama"
"Hey Girl" ft. Florence Welch
"Angel Down"
"Grigio Girls"
"Just Another Day"
"Angel Down" (Work tape)

FYI

Perfect Illusion has loist all momentum at radio per the all access radio charts.

"Perfect Illusion" is a WEAK lead-off single. It is so forgettable. That said, I LOVE the "Joanne" album cover and am eagerly anticipating the rest of it.

jillybean said:

"Perfect Illusion" is a WEAK lead-off single. It is so forgettable. That said, I LOVE the "Joanne" album cover and am eagerly anticipating the rest of it.

Yep, time to pretend it was just a "buzz single" and release a real lead single.

Oh well out of the Top 40 after one week.

Lady Gaga is not being marketed appropiately and is being mismanaged. "Perfect Illusion" is not the greatest song ever but its much better than Beyonce, Nikki Minaj and 95% of the crap that is on the radio right now.

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mjscarousal said:

Lady Gaga is not being marketed appropiately and is being mismanaged. "Perfect Illusion" is not the greatest song ever but its much better than Beyonce, Nikki Minaj and 95% of the crap that is on the radio right now.

[Edited 9/30/16 22:18pm]

No, it's not get over Beyoncé already

214 said:

mjscarousal said:

Lady Gaga is not being marketed appropiately and is being mismanaged. "Perfect Illusion" is not the greatest song ever but its much better than Beyonce, Nikki Minaj and 95% of the crap that is on the radio right now.

[Edited 9/30/16 22:18pm]

No, it's not get over Beyoncé already

I don't have to get over anything. Why don't you stop policing other people's opinions and worry about you own.

mjscarousal said:

214 said:

No, it's not get over Beyoncé already

I don't have to get over anything. Why don't you stop policing other people's opinions and worry about you own.

You always bring Beyoncé to the table no matter what, stop it.

Lady Gaga talks writing Joanne and the people who influenced the record:

http://bit.ly/2dBSWFL

214 said:

mjscarousal said:

I don't have to get over anything. Why don't you stop policing other people's opinions and worry about you own.

You always bring Beyoncé to the table no matter what, stop it

Lol Girl bye! Whatever, I am so sick of you and others dictating the opinions of others. Get over it. I criticize all artists out now not just her but I am curious as to why you immaturely feel entitled to dictate the opinions of others. It is MY opinion that the Lady Gaga song is better than the crap on the radio and that includes Beyonce and company. I don't have to mold my opinions to fit your liking, I said what I said, deal with it. I will never stop expressing my opinions nor will I censor myself for anybody here.

mjscarousal said:

214 said:

You always bring Beyoncé to the table no matter what, stop it

Lol Girl bye! Whatever, I am so sick of you and others dictating the opinions of others. Get over it. I criticize all artists out now not just her but I am curious as to why you immaturely feel entitled to dictate the opinions of others. It is MY opinion that the Lady Gaga song is better than the crap on the radio and that includes Beyonce and company. I don't have to mold my opinions to fit your liking, I said what I said, deal with it. I will never stop expressing my opinions nor will I censor myself for anybody here.

Ahahaha girl, i'm a boy

Since you know who was brought up already, doesn't perfect illusion remind you of something like that Can You Feel It, State of Shock, Cheater or Dirty Diana? It also made me think of the Eurythmics

alphastreet said:

Yeah I heard Eurythmics the most, and maybe a little bit of Abba and Ace of Base too

alphastreet said:

Since you know who was brought up already, doesn't perfect illusion remind you of something like that Can You Feel It, State of Shock, Cheater or Dirty Diana? It also made me think of the Eurythmics

Really, so many Michael Jackson's songs?