yeah, he was attempting to do a Prince after Purple Rain with Around the World in a Day-- but Neither Fish Nor Flesh is even MORE out there than ATWIAD, and there's no big singles like Raspberry Beret or Pop Life. Listening back to Neither Fish Nor Flesh, though, is really brilliant. It's so bold, and it's got great songs. If he had saved it until his fourth or fifth album and released Symphony or Damn as his sophomore, perhaps his career wouldn't be where it is now.
It's really extraordinary listening back to NFNF that anyone EVER thought this was going to be an album with any marketability or commercial success. I guess I can answer my own question! He's still a brilliant artist though, I agree that Wildcard is a brilliant album, his last great album probably. I listened to most of Angels and Vampires. First off, why is he releasing such ridiculously long albums? I don't have time to listen to 40 tracks... even 20 tracks is too long for an album. There are a few great tracks, but overall it just feels a lot... lighter than most of the TTD stuff. It doesn't have that grit and HARD sound that so much of his early stuff has... and "O Jacaranda, I want to be your panda" wasn't quite as appealing to me as "O Divina."
is there any way to listen to his new album before buying it? i don't want to shell out for an album I'm not going to really enjoy, but I do want to support him if I can
Yea, it was certainly a curve ball he threw after "Hardline". I still wonder in retrospect whether Sananda wanted to self satobage his own career because he didn't want to be put in a box and labelled as just a R&B/Soul artist. If like I said he put out "Hardline" 2.0 he would be stuck in that musical realm. But doing something from the norm was a huge musical step, a misstep to some degree sure but I personally think NFNF is one of his best albums in his whole discography. I disagree a little that there was no hit songs on it "To Know Someone Deeply" had hit potential, as did "I'll Be Alright" which is very 60s soul-esque, more Stax-esque than Motown-esque. It kinda predates what the group Solo did a decade later and is almost proto neo-soul, going back to real instrumentation when the trend in the 80s was more computer/electronic sounds.If he had recorded "Right Thing, Wrong Way" back then I definitely that that would have been a huge hit following on from "Hardline" and he could have been excused a little if he had more avant-garde pieces on his album. But really its not like he did like a experimental album like George Harrison's "Electronic Sound" for example. NFNF is rooted within a soul/R&B realm its that majority of the songs aren't as easy accessible as the ones on his first LP, or second if you count the album he did with "Touch".
I don't know, I think NFNF is a very experimental album to me compared to most albums in the same genre... I mean just look at the first three tracks. Declaration: Fish Nor Flesh is a very weird chanting thing with him making a declaration of not being defined. Very weird, but cool, and I love it. I Have Faith in these Desolate Times is mostly solo vocal and harp with a very experimental and dissonant second half. It Feels So Good To Love Someone Like You is also very experimental for the nature of the song, although once again it's very brilliant. I think some of the more accessible single like items are closer to the second half of the album. It's probably my favorite album by him, but I'm just not sure if it's possible it could have been a smash success like Hardline
this guy was so brilliant. he had such a deep, complex voice, and his songwriting was unique and inspired.
i know he changed his name and still makes music, but to be honest, it's very hard for me to listen to anything he recorded after he changed his name.
still... what a voice. what a talent. I think the comparisons to P are overblown, by the way, but he was his parallel for a brief little period.
i've been keeping tabs on him for years, he's fine, just became an expatriat, i think it suits him well, he doesn't come to the us much, i keep begging for him to tour the us again. i don't know if the stories about mj sabotaging his career have any truth to them and he seems to blame his record company for screwing up the promotion, something that's hard to tell, Prince, Michael jackson, george michael all blame record company's for that, sometimes it's just that people don't want to buy your album.
Yea, it was certainly a curve ball he threw after "Hardline". I still wonder in retrospect whether Sananda wanted to self satobage his own career because he didn't want to be put in a box and labelled as just a R&B/Soul artist. If like I said he put out "Hardline" 2.0 he would be stuck in that musical realm. But doing something from the norm was a huge musical step, a misstep to some degree sure but I personally think NFNF is one of his best albums in his whole discography. I disagree a little that there was no hit songs on it "To Know Someone Deeply" had hit potential, as did "I'll Be Alright" which is very 60s soul-esque, more Stax-esque than Motown-esque. It kinda predates what the group Solo did a decade later and is almost proto neo-soul, going back to real instrumentation when the trend in the 80s was more computer/electronic sounds.If he had recorded "Right Thing, Wrong Way" back then I definitely that that would have been a huge hit following on from "Hardline" and he could have been excused a little if he had more avant-garde pieces on his album. But really its not like he did like a experimental album like George Harrison's "Electronic Sound" for example. NFNF is rooted within a soul/R&B realm its that majority of the songs aren't as easy accessible as the ones on his first LP, or second if you count the album he did with "Touch".
I don't know, I think NFNF is a very experimental album to me compared to most albums in the same genre... I mean just look at the first three tracks. Declaration: Fish Nor Flesh is a very weird chanting thing with him making a declaration of not being defined. Very weird, but cool, and I love it. I Have Faith in these Desolate Times is mostly solo vocal and harp with a very experimental and dissonant second half. It Feels So Good To Love Someone Like You is also very experimental for the nature of the song, although once again it's very brilliant. I think some of the more accessible single like items are closer to the second half of the album. It's probably my favorite album by him, but I'm just not sure if it's possible it could have been a smash success like Hardline
neither fish nor flesh was way better than his debut album, the production was light years away, and symphony or damn is still in my opinion, the last great concept album, even better. after that, I don't really like a lot of the stuff i've heard from him.
Just because this thread is here, I'll post a performance piece from Sananda's 2014 concert date at Fasching, Stockholm. He covers the Beatles tune "If I Fell." The song is featured in his latest album The Rise of the Zugebrian Time Lords.
is there another site for love of SM / TTD ?? or this this the main place peeps show their love?
There used to be a yahoo group and a fan forum on his website until a few years ago, but I don't think there is any place still existing where people discuss him apart from FB posts about him these days.
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