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Reply #30 posted 04/05/03 5:54am

JohnnyTheFox

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Elvis is a piece of racist trash plan and simple. Most people are afraid to state this because he's dead and many consider him an icon. Someone said the phrase that pays, "All a nigger can do is shine my shoes and buy my records". Someone else said he took good care of his "Black servants", I guess that shine the shoes part was on the money. And when did he credit his whole career to the black man? This thread is up simply because in our heart of heart of hearts it's hard to think that an artist we love is not perfect. What a minute, he was from Memphis, had black servants, and stole a race of people's music and called it his own. That sounds good enough for me to hate his racist ass. I almost urinated on his wax statue at Madam Turssut's in NYC Times Square, but some stupid staff worker stopped me. He understood, but he still stopped me. Damn bleeding hearts. (I'm gonna try again real soon) Death to ELV...oh, nevermind.



He credited Roy Hamilton as one of his chief vocal inspirations. When recording at American Studios in Memphis in 1969, Elvis met Hamilton in person and all but kissed his feet in public. He also offered Hamilton a song called "Angelica", which he was intending to record himself, telling Roy that he'd do it more justice. Roy Hamilton, in case you didn't know it, was black.

Elvis was generous to everybody who worked for him, black and white. Check out Peter Guralnick's two volume biography and you'll read a whole bunch of stuff about him that refutes all suggestion that Elvis was racist.
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Reply #31 posted 04/05/03 7:30am

Harlepolis

I don't know about ya'll but Elvis is def the HOTTEST white boy that eva lived on this mother earth,,2 me he was even sexier when he was fat and sweaty. There won't be any white boy looking like him,,NEVA!

There aren't so many white folks attract me but he def did nod Them lips, sleepy large pretty brown eyes, shoulders, chest, butt, hands, arms and them chicks love OoOOoooOOOh Weeeh,,,HURT ME! biggrin
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Reply #32 posted 04/05/03 7:38am

Essence

Harlepolis said:

I don't know about ya'll but Elvis is def the HOTTEST white boy that eva lived on this mother earth,,2 me he was even sexier when he was fat and sweaty. There won't be any white boy looking like him,,NEVA!

There aren't so many white folks attract me but he def did nod Them lips, sleepy large pretty brown eyes, shoulders, chest, butt, hands, arms and them chicks love OoOOoooOOOh Weeeh,,,HURT ME! biggrin


Harlepolis said:

csharp57 said:

You have to admit she is sexy as hell.


And??


razz
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Reply #33 posted 04/05/03 7:43am

Harlepolis

Essence said:

Harlepolis said:

I don't know about ya'll but Elvis is def the HOTTEST white boy that eva lived on this mother earth,,2 me he was even sexier when he was fat and sweaty. There won't be any white boy looking like him,,NEVA!

There aren't so many white folks attract me but he def did nod Them lips, sleepy large pretty brown eyes, shoulders, chest, butt, hands, arms and them chicks love OoOOoooOOOh Weeeh,,,HURT ME! biggrin


Harlepolis said:

csharp57 said:

You have to admit she is sexy as hell.


And??


razz


Goddamn stalker rolleyes lloll :p biggrin!
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Reply #34 posted 04/05/03 9:23pm

MrBliss

csharp57 said:

"All a nigger can do is shine my shoes and buy my records". .. where is this quote from ?

And when did he credit his whole career to the black man? he didn't... did you know carl perkins wrote blue suede shoes? just because he may not have given credit where credit is due, it doesn't make him racist... this sort of thing has always gone on in the music industry

I almost urinated on his wax statue at Madam Turssut's in NYC Times Square, which would have achieved what?
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Reply #35 posted 04/06/03 12:20am

Spats

Are you going to knock those black ladies for the job they did? Nothing wrong with being a maid. Somebody has to do it.

Only an ignorant fool would believe 1 rumor that was never proven over dozens of facts that prove he was not racist.

Damn Fool.
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Reply #36 posted 04/06/03 3:47pm

CinisterCee

Dead like Elvis!
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Reply #37 posted 04/07/03 12:37am

csharp57

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That is the best thing I like about Elvis. HE IS DEAD!!! May he rot in hell. And he is sexy too me to... DEAD. And I will give him some slack.. BECAUSE HE'S DEAD.

UPDATE: I will try tomorrow in my quest to urinate on the wax figure greatest ripoff artist of all time. (I saw the Beatles there too. Hmmm...)
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Reply #38 posted 04/07/03 1:12am

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urban legend

http://snopes.com/quotes/presley.htm

Claim: Elvis Presley once said "The only thing a nigger can do for me is buy my records and shine my shoes."
Status: False.

Origins: Nearly as great as our need to elevate certain common folk to the status of heroes is the need of others to tear them down -- to show us that our heroes are possessed grievous flaws that make them unworthy of the praise and attention we lavish on them.

Such was the case with the phenomenon known as Elvis Presley. Although his public persona was that of the wild, rebellious, gyrating rock-n-roller, Elvis was actually a shy, humble, religious, polite, respectful young man. Surely this private Elvis was too good to be true. A poor white Southerner who had achieved unprecedented fame and success by co-opting the black man's music, surely Elvis must have been a racist at heart.

So it was believed at the height of Presley's popularity in early 1957, when the rumor began circulating that he had dismissively put down blacks by stating that "The only thing Negroes can do for me is buy my records and shine my shoes." Never mind the rich rhythm and blues and gospel music heritage of Blacks that Elvis had so assiduously mined in becoming the most popular entertainer the world had ever seen; the only use he had for them was as servants and consumers of his products.

This alleged utterance of Elvis Presley's was so completely at odds with his true personality and beliefs that anyone who knew him found it hard to believe the rumor could be taken seriously. As Elvis' father Vernon remarked shortly before his death, "There were times when we had nothing to eat but bread and water, but we always had compassion for people. Poor we were, I'll never deny that. But trash we weren't . . . We never had any prejudice. We never put anybody down. Neither did Elvis." Sam Phillips, the producer and head of Sun records who gave Elvis his start, noted that "The lack of prejudice on the part of Elvis Presley had to be one of the biggest things that happened to us . . ." Plenty of black musicians whom Elvis had encountered during his rise to fame testified to the respect and courtesy Elvis had always shown towards them.

But millions of people knew only the public Presley image and very few knew Elvis the man, so the rumor grew and spread throughout early 1957. It mattered not that the story came cloaked in impossible details, such as Elvis' supposedly making the statement in Boston (a city he had never visited) or on Edward R. Murrow's Person to Person TV program (on which Elvis had never appeared). Finally, Jet magazine, finding that "tracing the rumored racial slur to its source was like running a gopher to earth," dispatched reporter Louie Robinson in search of the truth. Robinson went straight to the source, visiting Presley on the set of Jailhouse Rock where the singer told him, "I never said anything like that, and people who know me know I wouldn't have said it." Indeed, Robinson found, people (both black and white) who did know Presley told him the very same thing. "To Elvis," Robinson concluded in his August 1957 article, "people are people, regardless of race, color or creed."
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Reply #39 posted 04/07/03 1:38am

youngca

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Elvis wasn't. in fact some of his closet buddies in music
were black. he was tight with B.B. KINg (they used to sing
gospel together) he was buddies with JB.
And real close to JACKIE WILSon. of whom he told should
do movies like him.

Wilson was a HUge fan of elvis..his first hit (written by
berry gordy) Reet Petite was wilson doing elvis.

the shame of it was both men have similar weaknesses.
(the ladies...well maybe that's not a weakness!)
drugs and neither cared as much about the songs they were
given to sing...which explains why their later material was
so bad.

anyway Elvis wasn't a bigot.
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Reply #40 posted 04/07/03 2:01am

MrBliss

AaronFantastic said:

urban legend

http://snopes.com/quotes/presley.htm

Claim: Elvis Presley once said "The only thing a nigger can do for me is buy my records and shine my shoes."
Status: False.



thanks Aaron smile
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Reply #41 posted 04/07/03 3:44am

purpleone

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AaronFantastic said:

urban legend

http://snopes.com/quotes/presley.htm

Claim: Elvis Presley once said "The only thing a nigger can do for me is buy my records and shine my shoes."
Status: False.

Origins: Nearly as great as our need to elevate certain common folk to the status of heroes is the need of others to tear them down -- to show us that our heroes are possessed grievous flaws that make them unworthy of the praise and attention we lavish on them.

Such was the case with the phenomenon known as Elvis Presley. Although his public persona was that of the wild, rebellious, gyrating rock-n-roller, Elvis was actually a shy, humble, religious, polite, respectful young man. Surely this private Elvis was too good to be true. A poor white Southerner who had achieved unprecedented fame and success by co-opting the black man's music, surely Elvis must have been a racist at heart.

So it was believed at the height of Presley's popularity in early 1957, when the rumor began circulating that he had dismissively put down blacks by stating that "The only thing Negroes can do for me is buy my records and shine my shoes." Never mind the rich rhythm and blues and gospel music heritage of Blacks that Elvis had so assiduously mined in becoming the most popular entertainer the world had ever seen; the only use he had for them was as servants and consumers of his products.

This alleged utterance of Elvis Presley's was so completely at odds with his true personality and beliefs that anyone who knew him found it hard to believe the rumor could be taken seriously. As Elvis' father Vernon remarked shortly before his death, "There were times when we had nothing to eat but bread and water, but we always had compassion for people. Poor we were, I'll never deny that. But trash we weren't . . . We never had any prejudice. We never put anybody down. Neither did Elvis." Sam Phillips, the producer and head of Sun records who gave Elvis his start, noted that "The lack of prejudice on the part of Elvis Presley had to be one of the biggest things that happened to us . . ." Plenty of black musicians whom Elvis had encountered during his rise to fame testified to the respect and courtesy Elvis had always shown towards them.

But millions of people knew only the public Presley image and very few knew Elvis the man, so the rumor grew and spread throughout early 1957. It mattered not that the story came cloaked in impossible details, such as Elvis' supposedly making the statement in Boston (a city he had never visited) or on Edward R. Murrow's Person to Person TV program (on which Elvis had never appeared). Finally, Jet magazine, finding that "tracing the rumored racial slur to its source was like running a gopher to earth," dispatched reporter Louie Robinson in search of the truth. Robinson went straight to the source, visiting Presley on the set of Jailhouse Rock where the singer told him, "I never said anything like that, and people who know me know I wouldn't have said it." Indeed, Robinson found, people (both black and white) who did know Presley told him the very same thing. "To Elvis," Robinson concluded in his August 1957 article, "people are people, regardless of race, color or creed."


everybody read and remember this and never start a stupid thread like this again!
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Reply #42 posted 04/07/03 4:28am

MrBliss

purpleone said:

everybody read and remember this and never start a stupid thread like this again!


excuse me genius... this thread was started in protest to hearing Elvis called a racist on this site... i've seen it written a few times and i (aka mrpoopoohead) wanted people to show where they got their info from... YOU need to get your facts straight before you mouth off.... maybe the "why the fuck " part in the title should have been a hint


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[This message was edited Mon Apr 7 4:31:20 PDT 2003 by MrBliss]
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Reply #43 posted 04/07/03 11:56pm

TheIncredibleM
rPooPooHead

MrBliss said:

purpleone said:

everybody read and remember this and never start a stupid thread like this again!


excuse me genius... this thread was started in protest to hearing Elvis called a racist on this site... i've seen it written a few times and i (aka mrpoopoohead) wanted people to show where they got their info from... YOU need to get your facts straight before you mouth off... maybe the "why the fuck " part in the title should have been a hint



yeah! lol
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Reply #44 posted 04/08/03 1:35pm

pejman

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MrBliss said:

pejman said:

Read his biography and you will understand...



examples?




sorry a bit late to reply...he was on his high school track and field team...therefore he was a racist...
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Reply #45 posted 04/08/03 1:35pm

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pejman said:

MrBliss said:

pejman said:

Read his biography and you will understand...



examples?




sorry a bit late to reply...he was on his high school track and field team...therefore he was a racist...




sorry I lagged Bliss I mean Poo Poo...
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Reply #46 posted 04/08/03 2:34pm

MrBliss

pejman said:

MrBliss said:

pejman said:

Read his biography and you will understand...



examples?




sorry a bit late to reply...he was on his high school track and field team...therefore he was a racist...



lol
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