And anybody Funky or aspiring to be Funkier was trying to get down with Sly back in his day..

ask Miles Davis.. Jimi Hendrix.. The producers at Motown and George Clinton!

Graycap23 said:

MD431Madcat said:

Prince would whup Sly's ass as a multi instrumentalist...

as a songwriter... Hmmm...? thats a tough one...

Prince was more prolific.. Sly more innovative...

I aint never heard anyone say that Sly sounds like Prince!

ButPrince sure sounds like Sly often.

Lol..........damn near every musician worth 2 cent wants to be associated with Prince.

There is a REASON for that. Prinvce is the man.......period.

MD431Madcat said:

And anybody Funky or aspiring to be Funkier was trying to get down with Sly back in his day..

ask Miles Davis.. Jimi Hendrix.. The producers at Motown and George Clinton!

Graycap23 said:

Lol..........damn near every musician worth 2 cent wants to be associated with Prince.

There is a REASON for that. Prinvce is the man.......period.

ok....now close this thread DOWN!!!

You must know about Pimps and Fonk!

HuMpThAnG said:

MD431Madcat said:

And anybody Funky or aspiring to be Funkier was trying to get down with Sly back in his day..

ask Miles Davis.. Jimi Hendrix.. The producers at Motown and George Clinton!

ok....now close this thread DOWN!!!

MD431Madcat said:

You must know about Pimps and Fonk!

HuMpThAnG said:

ok....now close this thread DOWN!!!

mugs don't understand what a supreme talent Sly was, back in the day

Prince & The Revolution was the Sly & The Family Stone of that era

and that's not a bad thing

SLY!!!

Word!

HuMpThAnG said:

MD431Madcat said:

You must know about Pimps and Fonk!

mugs don't understand what a supreme talent Sly was, back in the day

Prince & The Revolution was the Sly & The Family Stone of that era

and that's not a bad thing

SLY!!!

[Edited 8/2/16 6:38am]

MD431Madcat said:

Word!

[Edited 8/2/16 6:38am]

just too damn cool

original line up of Sly and the Family Stone

thee greatest band...ever!!!

mrwiggles said:

Both Sly & JB are the Funk Gods for this era. All others are mere disciples. When I go back and listen to something like Sly's Sex Machine. It's so rhythmically heavy. No other act I know of has got that kind of bottom on it. Not James, not George, not Bootsy nor Prince. IMHO, P-Funk comes off sounding "lightweight" compared to some of Sly"s meatiest grooves. I'm one of GC's biggest fans but I gotta recognize. [Edited 8/2/16 7:27am]

even George stated Sly & The Family Stone, was his favorite band.

mines too

mrwiggles said:

Both Sly & JB are the Funk Gods for this era. All others are mere disciples. When I go back and listen to something like Sly's Sex Machine. It's so rhythmically heavy. No other act I know of has got that kind of bottom on it. Not James, not George, not Bootsy nor Prince. IMHO, P-Funk comes off sounding "lightweight" compared to some of Sly"s meatiest grooves. I'm one of GC's biggest fans but I gotta recognize. [Edited 8/2/16 7:27am]

Sly was the man and I loved the band as well........but Prince was more diverse and his catologue proves that point.

Good Gawd!

MD431Madcat said:

Good Gawd!

damn

Sly was about 40 when he did this Letterman appearance. I found him quite odd, but I guess drugs will do that to you.

this is like saying Michael Jackson vs James Brown.....let's look at it.. Prince was the baddest of his time and beyond so I don't think he would have been better than Sly during late 60s-early 70s..Sly was taking not only R&B and Soul to another level, he was taking all music..the MOTOWN late 60s era(Temptations, Marvin Gaye, Undispute Truth) were trying to jump wagon on this new sound..then he borught FUNK to the mainstream...I'm a great fan of both,both are and ahead of their time, but wouldn't try to compare

Prince was more prolific than Sly...... but I think Sly has a better overall catalog of classics that are more timeless. Prince has timeless classics too but not as much as Sly IMO... at least the ones that are recognizable. I personally think they both were equally good songwriters and musicians. By the way, Playing multiple instruments doesn't necessarily mean you are exceptional or an expert in all the instruments. IMO, quality is more important versus how many instruments one can play or how many songs they have written. Prince and Sly are not strong vocalists but are good singers with unique tones. They are equal in that aspect IMO but I will give a slight edge to Prince in the singing department. As far as experimentation and fusion of different genres, I would give it to Prince. Overall, I still would choose Sly because if there wasn't a Sly, there wouldn't be a Prince and while Prince may have progressed and enhanced what Sly originated, Sly has more recognizable songs that have aged better.

Graycap23 said:

mrwiggles said:

Both Sly & JB are the Funk Gods for this era. All others are mere disciples. When I go back and listen to something like Sly's Sex Machine. It's so rhythmically heavy. No other act I know of has got that kind of bottom on it. Not James, not George, not Bootsy nor Prince. IMHO, P-Funk comes off sounding "lightweight" compared to some of Sly"s meatiest grooves. I'm one of GC's biggest fans but I gotta recognize. [Edited 8/2/16 7:27am]

Sly was the man and I loved the band as well........but Prince was more diverse and his catologue proves that point.

I was told by my folks growing up that, as he ascended to superstardom, Prince reminded them most of Sly. Prince emulated Sly's and James' sounds and styles, and even modeled the look and sound of the Revolution after the Family Stone. Towards the end, they were essentially doing James Brown revues. He later cribbed Sly's best bassist and James' most famed horn player.

But Prince built and expanded on the sounds and legacies of all his influences, commercially and artistically. Sly included.

There is a legit argument on quality v. quantity.

mjscarousal said:

Prince was more prolific than Sly...... but I think Sly has a better overall catalog of classics that are more timeless. Prince has timeless classics too but not as much as Sly IMO... at least the ones that are recognizable. I personally think they both were equally good songwriters and musicians. By the way, Playing multiple instruments doesn't necessarily mean you are exceptional or an expert in all the instruments. IMO, quality is more important versus how many instruments one can play or how many songs they have written. Prince and Sly are not strong vocalists but are good singers with unique tones. They are equal in that aspect IMO but I will give a slight edge to Prince in the singing department. As far as experimentation and fusion of different genres, I would give it to Prince. Overall, I still would choose Sly because if there wasn't a Sly, there wouldn't be a Prince and while Prince may have progressed and enhanced what Sly originated, Sly has more recognizable songs that have aged better.

What, is this for real?

SLY and the family stone had (like it was stated earlier in this thread) the baton, PRINCE grabbed the baton and ran forward with the inspiration from a funk/r&b musical genius.

sly was an inspiration to prince.

214 said:

mjscarousal said:

Prince was more prolific than Sly...... but I think Sly has a better overall catalog of classics that are more timeless. Prince has timeless classics too but not as much as Sly IMO... at least the ones that are recognizable. I personally think they both were equally good songwriters and musicians. By the way, Playing multiple instruments doesn't necessarily mean you are exceptional or an expert in all the instruments. IMO, quality is more important versus how many instruments one can play or how many songs they have written. Prince and Sly are not strong vocalists but are good singers with unique tones. They are equal in that aspect IMO but I will give a slight edge to Prince in the singing department. As far as experimentation and fusion of different genres, I would give it to Prince. Overall, I still would choose Sly because if there wasn't a Sly, there wouldn't be a Prince and while Prince may have progressed and enhanced what Sly originated, Sly has more recognizable songs that have aged better.

What, is this for real?

I am not saying that Prince doesn't but between the two I think Sly has more.

Sly paved the way for Prince......but Prince didn't fall into the trap that Sly did business wise, drugs etc. Both are legends!

This is like comparing Run DMC to Grandmaster Flash and the FF.

One did it first, the other did it better.

Pokeno4Money said:

This is like comparing Run DMC to Grandmaster Flash and the FF.

One did it first, the other did it better.

Co-sign. Sly informed Prince in a major way but he took it so much "higher."

"Sly paved the way for Prince"......well said.

SPYZFAN1 said:

"Sly paved the way for Prince"......well said.

This may be true......but at what point does it become invalid?

I've heard the same thisng about James brown, Pfunk, The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Lil Richard,.........damn, did eveyone pave the wave 4 Prince?

No Comment.

Goddess4Real said:

Sly paved the way for Prince......but Prince didn't fall into the trap that Sly did business wise, drugs etc. Both are legends!

Graycap23 said:

NorthC said:

Graycap23 said:

This may be true......but at what point does it become invalid?

I've heard the same thisng about James brown, Pfunk, The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Lil Richard,.........damn, did eveyone pave the wave 4 Prince?

Yes! Prince learned from all of them. (And a few more like Santana, Joni Mitchell, The Rolling Stones, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, the list is almost endless...) and he sorta threw that all together and created his own magic out of it.

I think there are different tiers/levels of influence.

The ones that are (maybe) most obvious to the general audience are Jimi, Sly and James. That is because Prince's style and sound echoes them the loudest.

The ones that are known to Prince fans are Santana, Joni and Stevie. Those can be heard fairly easily throughout the catalog (which general audiences don't really know).

You're right . . . the rest is a hodgepodge. I've heard Marvin, The Beatles, The Stones, heck even more modern acts like Soul II Soul and Public Enemy. Plus, as you said, he was a master at incorporating a lot of different influeces into his own distinctive sound.