Reply #60 posted 06/20/16 1:39am
Chancellor |
SoulAlive said:
It just seems strange to do a book where you claim that your ex-wife was a lesbian that's inexcusably tacky
Did Bobby SAY in his book that Whitney was a Lesbian or Bisexual?...Get it right Bruh, get it right...A lot of Gay people REFUSE to accept Bisexual people for who they are and will SWEAR up & Down that a Bisexual person is really a confused Gay person.... |
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Reply #62 posted 06/20/16 4:23pm
Hamad |
Chancellor said:
SoulAlive said:
It just seems strange to do a book where you claim that your ex-wife was a lesbian that's inexcusably tacky
Did Bobby SAY in his book that Whitney was a Lesbian or Bisexual?...Get it right Bruh, get it right...A lot of Gay people REFUSE to accept Bisexual people for who they are and will SWEAR up & Down that a Bisexual person is really a confused Gay person....
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Reply #63 posted 06/21/16 6:00am
kitbradley |
Cinny said:
SoulAlive said:
True,but it just feels so....wrong like he's trying to profit from Whitney's death.There are certain things that should probably be kept private
MAYBE we're all too used to Miss Goodie Two Shoes persona and story that SHE sold/told.
I don't necessarily think she was telling that innocent surburban girl story. That was the image Clive Davis was selling in the 80's to get her accross to a certain audience to sell more records. She just went along with it and we all fell for it. If you look back at her 80's interviews, they are very different than the Nippy we saw in the 90's and 00's. "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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Reply #64 posted 06/21/16 7:27am
Cinny |
kitbradley said:
Cinny said:
MAYBE we're all too used to Miss Goodie Two Shoes persona and story that SHE sold/told.
I don't necessarily think she was telling that innocent surburban girl story. That was the image Clive Davis was selling in the 80's to get her accross to a certain audience to sell more records. She just went along with it and we all fell for it. If you look back at her 80's interviews, they are very different than the Nippy we saw in the 90's and 00's.
Okay, even in the aughties she is praising Jesus and her husband. Nippy NEVER told the story or even hinted at a lesbian affair. She probably would have never talked about drugs either if it hadn't have been for Diane Sawyer |
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Reply #65 posted 06/21/16 9:35am
kitbradley |
Cinny said:
kitbradley said:
I don't necessarily think she was telling that innocent surburban girl story. That was the image Clive Davis was selling in the 80's to get her accross to a certain audience to sell more records. She just went along with it and we all fell for it. If you look back at her 80's interviews, they are very different than the Nippy we saw in the 90's and 00's.
Okay, even in the aughties she is praising Jesus and her husband. Nippy NEVER told the story or even hinted at a lesbian affair. She probably would have never talked about drugs either if it hadn't have been for Diane Sawyer
Well, she couldn't continue to avoid talking about the drug issues due to all of her erratic behavior. I mean, she had to address the elephant in the room. As far as her sexuality, if she would have admitted to being lesbian or bisexual, that would have been career suicide for her. I know there were some out caucasian gay singers who were experiencing success on a massive level but no black singers. We all know there were several but as long as they didn't admit to it or talk about it, then fans pretended like it didn't exist. To this day, it's still taboo for a black singer to admit to anything other than heterosexuality. "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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Reply #66 posted 06/21/16 12:37pm
Cinny |
kitbradley said:
Cinny said:
Okay, even in the aughties she is praising Jesus and her husband. Nippy NEVER told the story or even hinted at a lesbian affair. She probably would have never talked about drugs either if it hadn't have been for Diane Sawyer
Well, she couldn't continue to avoid talking about the drug issues due to all of her erratic behavior. I mean, she had to address the elephant in the room. As far as her sexuality, if she would have admitted to being lesbian or bisexual, that would have been career suicide for her. I know there were some out caucasian gay singers who were experiencing success on a massive level but no black singers. We all know there were several but as long as they didn't admit to it or talk about it, then fans pretended like it didn't exist. To this day, it's still taboo for a black singer to admit to anything other than heterosexuality.
Fair enough. Maybe Bobby Brown shouldn't be outing her to sell his book. |
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Reply #67 posted 06/21/16 12:38pm
Cinny |
SoulAlive said:
Cinny said:
He is entitled to tell his story. Trying to shut him up is just like Prince trying to shut up Wendy & Lisa. It's not fair, and it wasn't just his life.
True,but it just feels so....wrong like he's trying to profit from Whitney's death.There are certain things that should probably be kept private
Is that how you felt about Being Bobby Brown, the TV show? She was a major selling point in that show. |
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Reply #68 posted 06/21/16 8:59pm
Goddess4Real |
Cinny said:
SoulAlive said:
True,but it just feels so....wrong like he's trying to profit from Whitney's death.There are certain things that should probably be kept private
Is that how you felt about Being Bobby Brown, the TV show? She was a major selling point in that show.
For sure and he was pissed off, that she wouldn't do a second season and sign off on releasing it on dvd etc. No Whitney = No interests = No $$$$$$$$$$$$ for Bobby. Its its so because back in the day Bobby Brown was awesome as a performer. They could have been such a power couple like Beyonce and Jay Z, and things got so messed up because of egos, drugs and dysfunctional families on both sides. [Edited 6/21/16 21:08pm] Keep Calm & Listen To Prince |
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Reply #69 posted 06/25/16 1:25am
RachB65 |
TD3 said:
Cinny said:
TD3 said:
I don't think so. I've said this before and maybe some folks missed some of Whitney's interviews, print or TV. Whitney was always real to me. I think a lot in the record industry, fans, and media ( tall stunning and could sing) put the image on Whitney and made up in their minds who she was. Houston repeatedly spoke about how frustrated she was in what was projected and who she really was. Still, Houston was a wild child and Bobby was a wild child. Folks seem to be pissed cuz it fucks up their image of what they wanted Houston to be. That girl never fooled anybody, everyone else was looking at her through rose colored glasses. That's on them... not her.
Except when we're talking about stories that are making folks mad and she NEVER told as if it makes Bobby a liar.
What's the old saying about relationships, its her story, his story and somewhere in the middle the truth. I don't recall Houston flapping her lips about anyone or anything... until she was fired by Burt Bacharach's druing the Oscars. We all know how that turned out. Or the later interviews with Oprah. A lot of folks betrayed her... I don't think Bobby's crack headed sista sold Whitney's drug den bathroom pics because she was concerned... she wanted money. Its sad. Do I believe Brown when he said, Houston would be here if she was allowed to live her life on her terms, and had Robyn Crawford in her life. Yes. ===== [Edited 6/17/16 23:03pm] I believe this too. Back in the day before Bobby there were rumors about Whitney's sexual orientation and her relationship with Robyn. I also knew someone who went to school with her at an all girls high school and i remember her hinting at this...Whitney was also somewhat of a tomboy back then. Her escalating drug use over the years is typical of someone who is forced to hide an important side of themselves. I believe she was bi and that if her relationship with Robyn could have run its course or continued in an intimate capacity(sexual or not) then she would have been healthier/happier... "Almost all art is trying to become an anaesthetic and at the same time a healing session drawing up the magical electrics.” |
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Reply #70 posted 06/26/16 1:11am
mjscarousal |
Cinny said:
SoulAlive said:
True,but it just feels so....wrong like he's trying to profit from Whitney's death.There are certain things that should probably be kept private
Is that how you felt about Being Bobby Brown, the TV show? She was a major selling point in that show.
C'mon you know that is completely different from this. Bobby is spreading lies about his dead ex wife that can no longer defend herself. This is completely different. |
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Reply #71 posted 06/26/16 6:02am
Cinny |
mjscarousal said:
Cinny said:
Is that how you felt about Being Bobby Brown, the TV show? She was a major selling point in that show.
C'mon you know that is completely different from this. Bobby is spreading lies about his dead ex wife that can no longer defend herself. This is completely different.
Yeah. I realize she did not participate in writing this book.
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Reply #72 posted 06/26/16 1:46pm
Ottensen |
missfee said:
SoulAlive said:
wow! LOL,never seen this before.Dude dropped a bag of cocaine on TV!!
Goddess4Real said:
Come on he was using way before he married Whitney hello look at look at 1:14 of his On Our Own performance at the 1989 MTV music awards https://www.youtube.com/w...0C3zckQ4Kk
Yeah I remember that. I don't think he's ever said that he didn't use cocaine before getting with Whitney, his stance is that he never STARTED her on cocaine and I believe him. I watched the 20/20 interview he had with Robin Roberts and it wasn't all that interesting. The thing about him claiming to have had sex with a ghost is a joke. I believe all of this (the book and interview), is a brain child of his manager/wife, who is trying hard to keep him working. He certainly can't sing and perform any longer, so what else is there?
I've always been one to say that folks find it easy to blame Bobby on the trainwreck that Whitney became and I still feel that way, however, isn't he tired of talking about his marriage to Whitney? Both Whitney and their daughter are gone now, why keep putting out books and doing interviews about the marriage and the whole situation? It's like beating a dead horse out of it. You were an R&B superstar who partied hard, married the pop star darling, you BOTH were wreckless and had a drug indulged marriage that ended after 14 years. There's nothing else to discuss.
As far as Whitney's mom, well, those Houstons are FAR from innocent. If Bobby's partially to blame for Whitney's downfall, then the Houstons are to blame too, if not more. Wasn't it her brother who got her on drugs in the first place? And Whitney wasn't even lukewarm in the ground yet before the Houstons did that rediculous reality show in poor taste. This was suprising especially after Bobby's trainwreck reality show. Bobby Kristina's pain was certainly exploited by her disfunctional family and the Houstons are a huge part of that. They are the last ones to even begin to point fingers. So for Ms. Cissy to go in on Bobby is a waste of time. This. Awllll-a this. |
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Reply #73 posted 06/26/16 2:11pm
Ottensen |
Goddess4Real said:
SoulAlive said:
It just seems strange to do a book where you claim that your ex-wife was a lesbian that's inexcusably tacky
And it's the 2nd version of his bio.....the latest he has sexed it up which the media is running with, and NOONE has called him out on it! That's because anybody who was even remotely connected to showbiz and glamor profession circles back then already KNEW what was up. From the Robin issue on down to the thots who were bold enough to publicly allege they had been summoned to engage in threesomes with the Houston-Browns. This stuff is not new and has been whispered about in lunch conversations with industry folk since forever. Ain't nobody got time to publicly buck up against what for them,back in a kinder, gentler, more discreet time, was common knowledge among a certain segment of folks. There is so much salaciousness and treachery that goes on in show business out of public view surely we are not that naive in 2016. |
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Reply #74 posted 06/27/16 3:35am
daingermouz202 0 |
Ottensen said: Goddess4Real said:
SoulAlive said:
It just seems strange to do a book where you claim that your ex-wife was a lesbian that's inexcusably tacky
And it's the 2nd version of his bio.....the latest he has sexed it up which the media is running with, and NOONE has called him out on it! That's because anybody who was even remotely connected to showbiz and glamor profession circles back then already KNEW what was up. From the Robin issue on down to the thots who were bold enough to publicly allege they had been summoned to engage in threesomes with the Houston-Browns. This stuff is not new and has been whispered about in lunch conversations with industry folk since forever. Ain't nobody got time to publicly buck up against what for them,back in a kinder, gentler, more discreet time, was common knowledge among a certain segment of folks. There is so much salaciousness and treachery that goes on in show business out of public view surely we are not that naive in 2016. Nope, we aren't. This has been going on for yrs. From the Reverend C.L. Franklin, James Cleveland,The Caravans, salaciousness' has been just as extreme or probably more extreme amongst these gospel celebrity folk. Maybe in ways that would make R.Kelly and early Prince draw the line as going too far. |
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Reply #75 posted 07/03/16 10:28am
vainandy |
Cinny said:
SoulAlive said:
True,but it just feels so....wrong like he's trying to profit from Whitney's death.There are certain things that should probably be kept private
MAYBE we're all too used to Miss Goodie Two Shoes persona and story that SHE sold/told.
You got that right!
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But if she was gay, she's one that needed to stay in the closet. Hell, we've fought too long and hard to get away from the stereotypical dull and sweet image. We don't need another Goodie Two Shoes setting us back. We need more hard strong images like the guy from Judas Priest who looked like he'd cut you if you pissed him off. Andy is a four letter word. |
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Reply #76 posted 07/04/16 8:22am
Cinny |
vainandy said:
Cinny said:
MAYBE we're all too used to Miss Goodie Two Shoes persona and story that SHE sold/told.
You got that right!
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But if she was gay, she's one that needed to stay in the closet. Hell, we've fought too long and hard to get away from the stereotypical dull and sweet image. We don't need another Goodie Two Shoes setting us back. We need more hard strong images like the guy from Judas Priest who looked like he'd cut you if you pissed him off.
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