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Cissy Houston Blasts Bobby Brown over Whitney

Didn't Bobby have a previous book out on Whitney? http://www.people.com/art...disturbing

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Reply #1 posted 06/08/16 6:38pm

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There is no way to hide the disturbing in this story anymore. The survivors need to celebrate their lives and own up to their roles. I thought it was kinda inevitable but still tacky for B Brown to do a taped interview now but the it had to happen at some point. I hope they can all find their peace while they are lucky to still be alive. People like to blame, it is human nature.
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Reply #2 posted 06/08/16 6:46pm

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I blame Cissy. Whitney would have been much happier if she could have been herself. I think she went downhill after BK was born because it solidified her "straight" existence.

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Reply #3 posted 06/08/16 8:27pm

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MidniteMagnet said:

I blame Cissy. Whitney would have been much happier if she could have been herself. I think she went downhill after BK was born because it solidified her "straight" existence.

blame cissy for what? Whitney was hetero. like many girls, wanted a perfect life with a child and husband. Only thing is, brown wasn't worth it.

He proves he wasn't worth Whitney every day.

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Reply #4 posted 06/08/16 8:42pm

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entertainment is finished......

when it gets to this level, it's all over.......

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Reply #5 posted 06/08/16 10:29pm

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This makes me sad along with Prince, MJ I enjoyed listening to Bobby Browns music with New Edition and when he went solo. I read excerpts and it looks to me that he has made up stuff in order to sell his book. Come on he was using way before he married Whitney hello look at look at 1:14 of his On Our Own performance at the 1989 MTV music awards https://www.youtube.com/w...0C3zckQ4Kk They both had substance problems before, during and after their marriage!, and now Bobby claims he once had sex with a ghost shrug sigh

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Reply #6 posted 06/08/16 11:24pm

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Its revolting the way Bobby has exploited Whitney since her death and now he is exploiting his deceased daughter for money. How can throw people under the bus you supposely love? omg

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Reply #7 posted 06/08/16 11:34pm

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mjscarousal said:

Its revolting the way Bobby has exploited Whitney since her death and now he is exploiting his deceased daughter for money. How can throw people under the bus you supposely love? omg

yeahthat and he was so talented too, his own sound, style and great stage presence.....check out his work on YT 1986-1992 and see how awesome he was. And that is why this is so sad sad . I look at him now, and think to myself shrug sigh . No doubt their marriage was toxic, and both should share the blame etc, but gee the way he as constantly changes his story over the years, I'm like dude omg stfu all this is doing is making him look like a tool.....and he just doesn't care.

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Reply #8 posted 06/09/16 12:17am

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I knew it his "new" bio is a rehash on an old one from 2008 http://www.showbiz411.com...-different

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Reply #9 posted 06/09/16 12:19am

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^ Its sad because this is not the behavior of a man who cared about a deceased ex wife and child. He blames Whitney for the downfall of the marriage. He insists Whitney was broke before he meant her. He insists that Whitney got him hooked on drugs. Just lie after lie after lie. I don't understand how people like him sleep at night.

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Reply #10 posted 06/09/16 12:32am

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mjscarousal said:

^ Its sad because this is not the behavior of a man who cared about a deceased ex wife and child. He blames Whitney for the downfall of the marriage. He insists Whitney was broke before he meant her. He insists that Whitney got him hooked on drugs. Just lie after lie after lie. I don't understand how people like him sleep at night.

Easy he is dreaming about the $$$$$$$ neutral

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Reply #11 posted 06/09/16 2:16am

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I'm surprised it took this long for Bobby to release his version of his Life with Whitney...I'll be the last person to call him a liar becuz I only know what Whitney told Oprah and never heard much from Bobby...I've seen clips referencing Bobby's book and I believe him when he says Whitney was Bisexual. I think he accepted it and he knew that she Loved him more than any Man she ever cared for. Some Men can accept their Girlfriends or Wives being Bisexual. The average Woman, especially a Black Woman choose not to date a Black Man who is Bisexual....

With all due Respect to Ms. Cissy she can be Mad all she wanna but she pimped her book to the World months after Whitney died, some say she had that Mug finished BEFORE Whitney's death..I supported Cissy's decison to tell the World about "her" daughter and their famous Mother/Daughter relationship....

I'm hard on Bobby 90% of the time, but this time I give the Bruh a pass...His Life, his book....

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Reply #12 posted 06/09/16 4:08am

SoulAlive

biggrin wow! LOL,never seen this before.Dude dropped a bag of cocaine on TV!!

Goddess4Real said:

Come on he was using way before he married Whitney hello look at look at 1:14 of his On Our Own performance at the 1989 MTV music awards https://www.youtube.com/w...0C3zckQ4Kk

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Reply #13 posted 06/09/16 5:12am

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SoulAlive said:

biggrin wow! LOL,never seen this before.Dude dropped a bag of cocaine on TV!!

Goddess4Real said:

Come on he was using way before he married Whitney hello look at look at 1:14 of his On Our Own performance at the 1989 MTV music awards https://www.youtube.com/w...0C3zckQ4Kk

Yeah I remember that. I don't think he's ever said that he didn't use cocaine before getting with Whitney, his stance is that he never STARTED her on cocaine and I believe him. I watched the 20/20 interview he had with Robin Roberts and it wasn't all that interesting. The thing about him claiming to have had sex with a ghost is a joke. I believe all of this (the book and interview), is a brain child of his manager/wife, who is trying hard to keep him working. He certainly can't sing and perform any longer, so what else is there?

I've always been one to say that folks find it easy to blame Bobby on the trainwreck that Whitney became and I still feel that way, however, isn't he tired of talking about his marriage to Whitney? Both Whitney and their daughter are gone now, why keep putting out books and doing interviews about the marriage and the whole situation? It's like beating a dead horse out of it. You were an R&B superstar who partied hard, married the pop star darling, you BOTH were wreckless and had a drug indulged marriage that ended after 14 years. There's nothing else to discuss.

As far as Whitney's mom, well, those Houstons are FAR from innocent. If Bobby's partially to blame for Whitney's downfall, then the Houstons are to blame too, if not more. Wasn't it her brother who got her on drugs in the first place? And Whitney wasn't even lukewarm in the ground yet before the Houstons did that rediculous reality show in poor taste. This was suprising especially after Bobby's trainwreck reality show. Bobby Kristina's pain was certainly exploited by her disfunctional family and the Houstons are a huge part of that. They are the last ones to even begin to point fingers. So for Ms. Cissy to go in on Bobby is a waste of time.

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Reply #14 posted 06/09/16 6:19am

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mjscarousal said:

Its revolting the way Bobby has exploited Whitney since her death and now he is exploiting his deceased daughter for money. How can throw people under the bus you supposely love? omg

Well, being he acts a fool on the NE tours and his last album missed the Top 40 on the Billboard R&B Albums Chart entirely, the boy has to make money somehow.

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Reply #15 posted 06/09/16 7:51am

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kitbradley said:



mjscarousal said:


Its revolting the way Bobby has exploited Whitney since her death and now he is exploiting his deceased daughter for money. How can throw people under the bus you supposely love? omg



Well, being he acts a fool on the NE tours and his last album missed the Top 40 on the Billboard R&B Albums Chart entirely, the boy has to make money somehow.




When u gotta further destroy the memory of a woman who was already systematically destroyed before they even started being together, then 1.) It shows how it stopped being about the music a very long time ago and 2.) That money comes with a major price tag
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Reply #16 posted 06/09/16 8:00am

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I hate interjecting the issue of race into this

But the current environment, or I should say the environment that began to permeate in the late 80s within this entertainment world, it doesn't allow these premier black artists to function properly

These type of books or interviews would not have existed from decades past, there was more solidarity, and the people dictacting this stuff today knows this


If there was more solidarity, this would not be happening
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Reply #17 posted 06/09/16 10:16am

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kitbradley said:

mjscarousal said:

Its revolting the way Bobby has exploited Whitney since her death and now he is exploiting his deceased daughter for money. How can throw people under the bus you supposely love? omg

Well, being he acts a fool on the NE tours and his last album missed the Top 40 on the Billboard R&B Albums Chart entirely, the boy has to make money somehow.

I hear ya! But this is LOW disbelief

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Reply #18 posted 06/09/16 2:08pm

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Let's see...Whitney's been doin' drugs 4 years and no one steps up 4 an intervention? Now Queen Cissy is pointin' fingers??? SORRY. Where was she (Cissy) when Whitney was FIRST goin' down the tubes? Ridiculous. And everyone KNEW that Whitney had bisexual/lesbian leanings. If Whitney was allowed 2b herself from the very beginning, perhaps the problems wouldn't have escalated to the point that they did. Maybe the problems (drugs, alcohol and God knows whatever else) would have been completely erradicated. When one has to live under the false expectations of others, it's only natural that she would turn 2 drugs 2 escape the b.s. More sadly, two very active drug addicts give birth 2 a daughter who grows up in the haze of her parents' drug and thug activities when they weren't fit 2b parents 2 begin with. Seems 2 me, that Cissy and Pat could have done MORE than just stand by and watch the destruction worsen over the years. It's pathetic. Besides, bisexual/lesbian leanings in this day and age should not be frowned upon by her mother, and quite frankly, whose business would it have been ANYWAY other than her own? Guess Whitney struggled profoundly with her sexual orientation and y'know...sadly, the ones who mattered the MOST did TOO. Sad all around. sad

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Reply #19 posted 06/09/16 3:56pm

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Isn't this the same book Bobby was paddling back in 2008? Only now Whitney and BK are both dead and he has added more salacious details to it. I understand its about his life but only the stuff about Whitney is being exposed. And why did he wait until Whitney died to talk about her being a lesbian. Bobby ain't shit!

The Houstons are no angels as well. They knew both Bobby and Whitney were drug addicts but none of them cared enough to protect BK. That child never had a chance. People always say it sad how she turned out. But how else was she supposed to be? Both of her parents were drug abusers and she grew up around them. I'm sure she saw a ton of stuff she shouldn't have. And BK was on drugs and alcohol way before Whitney died.
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Reply #20 posted 06/09/16 4:45pm

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this stuff is over...

it's all about exploitation now

there is absolutely nothing else that can be said about Whitney Houston and their marriage together, nothing but rehashing what has been talked about verbatim.....

the entertainment industry know the music output is shot and drying up like a turnip

and they have to resort to the downside of things to maintain

now of all people, after all these years, O.J. Simpson is the new target to cash in on, and there is nothing else to say about that situation either.........

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Reply #21 posted 06/09/16 7:32pm

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Scorp said:

this stuff is over...



it's all about exploitation now



there is absolutely nothing else that can be said about Whitney Houston and their marriage together, nothing but rehashing what has been talked about verbatim.....



the entertainment industry know the music output is shot and drying up like a turnip



and they have to resort to the downside of things to maintain



now of all people, after all these years, O.J. Simpson is the new target to cash in on, and there is nothing else to say about that situation either.....



I was wondering why this year was filled with so much coverage about OJ. Then I learn today that he is up for parole next year... it all makes sense now.
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Reply #22 posted 06/09/16 8:04pm

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BlackCat1985 said:

Scorp said:

this stuff is over...

it's all about exploitation now

there is absolutely nothing else that can be said about Whitney Houston and their marriage together, nothing but rehashing what has been talked about verbatim.....

the entertainment industry know the music output is shot and drying up like a turnip

and they have to resort to the downside of things to maintain

now of all people, after all these years, O.J. Simpson is the new target to cash in on, and there is nothing else to say about that situation either.........

I was wondering why this year was filled with so much coverage about OJ. Then I learn today that he is up for parole next year... it all makes sense now.

oh yes, they be having this stuff mapped out already.......

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Reply #23 posted 06/09/16 8:39pm

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BlackCat1985 said:

Scorp said:

this stuff is over...

it's all about exploitation now

there is absolutely nothing else that can be said about Whitney Houston and their marriage together, nothing but rehashing what has been talked about verbatim.....

the entertainment industry know the music output is shot and drying up like a turnip

and they have to resort to the downside of things to maintain

now of all people, after all these years, O.J. Simpson is the new target to cash in on, and there is nothing else to say about that situation either.........

I was wondering why this year was filled with so much coverage about OJ. Then I learn today that he is up for parole next year... it all makes sense now.

Yuuuup timing is everything!

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Reply #24 posted 06/09/16 8:42pm

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BlackCat1985 said:

Isn't this the same book Bobby was paddling back in 2008? Only now Whitney and BK are both dead and he has added more salacious details to it. I understand its about his life but only the stuff about Whitney is being exposed. And why did he wait until Whitney died to talk about her being a lesbian. Bobby ain't shit! The Houstons are no angels as well. They knew both Bobby and Whitney were drug addicts but none of them cared enough to protect BK. That child never had a chance. People always say it sad how she turned out. But how else was she supposed to be? Both of her parents were drug abusers and she grew up around them. I'm sure she saw a ton of stuff she shouldn't have. And BK was on drugs and alcohol way before Whitney died.

Not just with Whitney but also his 2 week fling with janet back in 89 (did she like dump him and he acted all whipped when she broke his heart?)...and Whitney supposed fling with 2-Pac too.

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Reply #25 posted 06/10/16 8:40am

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I agree.

BlackCat1985 said:

Isn't this the same book Bobby was paddling back in 2008? Only now Whitney and BK are both dead and he has added more salacious details to it. I understand its about his life but only the stuff about Whitney is being exposed. And why did he wait until Whitney died to talk about her being a lesbian. Bobby ain't shit!
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Reply #26 posted 06/10/16 8:59am

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BlackCat1985 said:

And why did he wait until Whitney died to talk about her being a lesbian.

Probably it wasn't even allowed to be asked before, or he was keeping it from Bobbi K (RIP)

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I'm surprised it took this long for Bobby to release his version of his Life with Whitney...I'll be the last person to call him a liar becuz I only know what Whitney told Oprah and never heard much from Bobby...I've seen clips referencing Bobby's book and I believe him when he says Whitney was Bisexual. I think he accepted it and he knew that she Loved him more than any Man she ever cared for. Some Men can accept their Girlfriends or Wives being Bisexual. The average Woman, especially a Black Woman choose not to date a Black Man who is Bisexual....

With all due Respect to Ms. Cissy she can be Mad all she wanna but she pimped her book to the World months after Whitney died, some say she had that Mug finished BEFORE Whitney's death..I supported Cissy's decison to tell the World about "her" daughter and their famous Mother/Daughter relationship....

I'm hard on Bobby 90% of the time, but this time I give the Bruh a pass...His Life, his book....

I read your comments a couple of times Chancellor, there's truth to what you say.

When love ones die from drug addiction or suicide, there is a lot of emotional fall-out. Anger, blame game, guilt, remorse, and deep sadness... if I would've, could've but didn't. Many -mother Houston, CeCe Winan, Angel Basset , Bobby Brown twice - have penned books and a film about their daughter, friend, and wife.


But...


To her credit Whitney Houston was honest, up-front, laid all her cards on the table and told Mr. Brown who she was. Whitney repeatedly said, one of the things she loved about Bobby, he accepted her for who she was. When a man and women decided to make a commitment to make a life as one... many share something or things about themselves, that probably few people know, especially their parents. Ms. Houston always denied she was a gay and in spite of public speculation or mother Houston's suspicions, Whitney confided to Bobby Brown she was bisexual. That information should have stayed with him til the grave. What did her friend Robyn Crawford, say in the Esquire essay remembering her friend? "She was a loyal friend, and she knew I was never going to be disloyal to her. I was never going to betray her."

I can't imagine all the lies Bobby Brown has had to deal with.... being the bulls-eye cause for Whitney Houston crashing and burning. I get that, but Brown should have kept his mouth shut about what Whitney had confided in him. Its a tragic story all around but we know., two fuck-ups are responsible for the death of their child. If only Mother Houston had the courage the strength to remove that baby (her granddaughtre Bobby-Kristina) from that cesspool she was living in.


All of parties need to shut-up, the damage has been done; no amount of tell-all-confessionals are going to absolve any of them on why Bobby-Kristina died.

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Goddess4Real said:



BlackCat1985 said:


Isn't this the same book Bobby was paddling back in 2008? Only now Whitney and BK are both dead and he has added more salacious details to it. I understand its about his life but only the stuff about Whitney is being exposed. And why did he wait until Whitney died to talk about her being a lesbian. Bobby ain't shit! The Houstons are no angels as well. They knew both Bobby and Whitney were drug addicts but none of them cared enough to protect BK. That child never had a chance. People always say it sad how she turned out. But how else was she supposed to be? Both of her parents were drug abusers and she grew up around them. I'm sure she saw a ton of stuff she shouldn't have. And BK was on drugs and alcohol way before Whitney died.


Not just with Whitney but also his 2 week fling with janet back in 89 (did she like dump him and he acted all whipped when she broke his heart?)...and Whitney supposed fling with 2-Pac too.


Yeah, the Janet thing is puzzling too. Back in 2008 he also claimed they dated but he never said that he kicked her out of a hotel room butt ass naked. Why leave that part out...unless it never happened. It was always known that he had a huge crush on her. He was on Video Soul telling Donnie Simpson how in love he was with her. Which was weird because I had never seen him act that way towards Whitney. Even after their so called fling he would still talk about her and show up to events such as her 2001 MTV Icon show. He also claimed it was because of their breakup that he started to drink heavy liquor.

The Whitney and Tupac thing came totally out of left field. Kinda funny that both of those people are dead and can't confirm nor deny it. Which Bobby knows. That's another thing he didn't mention in 2008 when Whitney was alive. That's another reason I take everything he says with a grain of salt. Bobby isn't the performer he once was and he can't sell the music nor the tickets to support his still growing family. But what he can do is air out his and Whitney's dirty laundry which is so messed up.
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Reply #29 posted 06/10/16 6:15pm

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And Madonna. Yes, Bobby says he had a sexual relationship with Madonna. Why am i not surprised??? lol
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