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Thread started 03/30/03 5:57pm

paisleypark4

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Explain y records r cooler than CD's

I already know why, but I LOVE records, what are ur reasons?

I was listening 2 the radio, and they were sayin that alot of peeps were agreeing that CD's are missing ... something... They also said that they were going 2 start makin stereos complete with record players also.

The thing i hear is the Bass" just sounds smoother and sweeter...what u think?
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Reply #1 posted 03/30/03 5:58pm

SummerRain

paisleypark4 said:

I already know why, but I LOVE records, what are ur reasons?

I was listening 2 the radio, and they were sayin that alot of peeps were agreeing that CD's are missing ... something... They also said that they were going 2 start makin stereos complete with record players also.

The thing i hear is the Bass" just sounds smoother and sweeter...what u think?

Records are cooler because you can use them to include scratch mixes with ur recordings. mr.green
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Reply #2 posted 03/30/03 6:02pm

Blackcat

paisleypark4 said:

I already know why, but I LOVE records, what are ur reasons?

I was listening 2 the radio, and they were sayin that alot of peeps were agreeing that CD's are missing ... something... They also said that they were going 2 start makin stereos complete with record players also.

The thing i hear is the Bass" just sounds smoother and sweeter...what u think?


My friend has a very extensive album collection and we were chillin and jammin records last weekend, I guess it's the nostalgia for me, cuz, there are things on CD I hear, that I just don't on some albums of the same artist.
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Reply #3 posted 03/30/03 6:04pm

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horns u can get a lot more albums with vinyl (try findin a copy of alexander o'neal's first album on cd mr.green)

horns the bass is a lot betta (hell, "sexy dancer" on vinyl sounds dirty horny)

horns the album covers and labels on the records

horns vinyl's much cheaper in most cases

horns goin 2 the wrecka sto is just a joy...drool

horns u don't have 2 worry about your friends stealin your albums (unless u have a friend who's a dj or sumfin)



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[This message was edited Sun Mar 30 18:07:35 PST 2003 by Handclapsfingasnapz]
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Reply #4 posted 03/30/03 6:55pm

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Albums have a Homie Feel to them that Discs just don't.it's like Somebody that Can Sing&then Somebody that Can Sang.Sang is for Albums because you feel the Rawness.Discs have there place&whatnot but are to Polished for me.
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Reply #5 posted 03/30/03 7:02pm

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u guys are all right on! I love this!smile
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Reply #6 posted 03/30/03 7:49pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

horns u can get a lot more albums with vinyl (try findin a copy of alexander o'neal's first album on cd mr.green)


Not to deviate too far from the subject, but you can find the first two Alexander O'Neal albums on CD fairly easily now. They have recently been remastered and rereleased.
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Reply #7 posted 03/30/03 8:40pm

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I did a beginners recording class at uni, and the lecturer was telling me how records actually have a better high and low frequency (or something?) than regular CDs do. I Don't know if this counts for Super Audio CDs or DVD Audio CDs though. Still, I prefer my Prince and Miles collection on CD 'cause then I don't have to worry about them slowly disintergrating!
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Reply #8 posted 03/30/03 9:33pm

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Why they're cooler? The artwork!

12" albums, records have those large sleeves. You can sit at the couch and really hold them up and lose yourself in the artwork and lyrics.

A CD is just too small. The technology is what sold them.

I see all these covers and think how the designers have to design small and most modern CD's have huge pictures of the artists.

That in itself kills the potential for great albums to have wonderful artwork.

Take Sign O The Times and Around The World In A Day...you felt like jumping into the scene. The artwork and lettering was inviting.

As a graphic designer, I design in the 12" format THEN reduce it to CD size. Much more you can say with the bigger canvas.
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Reply #9 posted 03/30/03 10:44pm

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FlyingCloudPassenger said:

Why they're cooler? The artwork!

12" albums, records have those large sleeves. You can sit at the couch and really hold them up and lose yourself in the artwork and lyrics.

A CD is just too small. The technology is what sold them.

I see all these covers and think how the designers have to design small and most modern CD's have huge pictures of the artists.

That in itself kills the potential for great albums to have wonderful artwork.

Take Sign O The Times and Around The World In A Day...you felt like jumping into the scene. The artwork and lettering was inviting.

As a graphic designer, I design in the 12" format THEN reduce it to CD size. Much more you can say with the bigger canvas.



HEY! Im a graphiv Designer 2 and I understand where ur coming from... Sometimes I take all the words off pictures of the labels and just have the original arwork 2 the record label on them (i only have MCA done, Epic, & Today records).

LP's aare way betta, but only lag is...cant carry them around the way...they hav 2 end up on CD 1 way or the other..as 4 home play..its the shit
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Reply #10 posted 03/30/03 11:00pm

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Records just sound a lot better, and for very good reason.

Human's can differentiate between something like a million levels of sound, and can hear deterioration in any less of a replication. CDs are 16 bits, therefore restricting the levels of sound to approx. 65,000. Records on the other hand can theoretically cover an infinite number of levels.

CDs are also limited to a frequency of 22KHz. Though above our normal hearing, the harmonics produced above this level is lost, which deteriorates the sounds at levels within our hearing range.

The end result is that CDs sound relatively dead. A good test is to start tracks at the same time on both a record and CD, then flip between phono and Aux/CD on the amplifier. There's a huge difference in the warmth of sound and how well the record 'fills up' the space beside and between the speakers.

Sexy Dancer 12" sounds ace on vinyl smile So does Pope 12". ALL of Prince's 12"s sounds great on vinyl!

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Reply #11 posted 03/31/03 10:22am

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ok well what about when u record from a record on2 a CD is there a relative difference? Please tell me, I'd really like 2 know...What does it sound like...(i do it from a microphone so that dont count)
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Reply #12 posted 03/31/03 10:33am

Harlepolis

Everbody got passion 4 old school stuff no matta how much reasons they'll be telling you,,it is the fact that its old school and reminds you of your youth.

Personaly, I love the vinyl sound when you start 2 play the record, I love how its sound on the intro.
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Reply #13 posted 03/31/03 11:10am

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Harlepolis said:

Everbody got passion 4 old school stuff no matta how much reasons they'll be telling you,,it is the fact that its old school and reminds you of your youth.

Personaly, I love the vinyl sound when you start 2 play the record, I love how its sound on the intro.
I totally agree with you on this. It's like good home cookin'. There is nothing like it.
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Reply #14 posted 03/31/03 11:15am

Harlepolis

stymie said:

Harlepolis said:

Everbody got passion 4 old school stuff no matta how much reasons they'll be telling you,,it is the fact that its old school and reminds you of your youth.

Personaly, I love the vinyl sound when you start 2 play the record, I love how its sound on the intro.
It's like good home cookin'


Xactly
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Reply #15 posted 03/31/03 11:51am

FlyingCloudPas
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Harlepolis said:

Everbody got passion 4 old school stuff no matta how much reasons they'll be telling you,,it is the fact that its old school and reminds you of your youth.


First child, "Old School" is a corporate made fake label.

No such thing. It's just classic real music and style you're referring too when you say that LABEL.

Second, your 20, one day you'll be 40, it's just around the corner, really, nd you will pine for Snoop and Timberlake and MP3's headache .

I feel for the kids now. I wonder what they'll have nostalgia for later. Music sucks, movies suck...toys suck...

People have passions for stuff that was cool. Stuff that remind them of a nicer, simpler, funner, maybe even "real-er" timem when people weren't afraid to be different or innovative.

BUT, I'm glad you find vinyl records cool. Whew.
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Reply #16 posted 03/31/03 11:57am

TheMico

Digital music isn't the real thing, it's most of the real thing compresed into zeros and ones. A good turntable can blow a regular CD player away. You get better separation, and this has been mentioned - better high and low end.
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Reply #17 posted 03/31/03 12:02pm

Harlepolis

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

Harlepolis said:

Everbody got passion 4 old school stuff no matta how much reasons they'll be telling you,,it is the fact that its old school and reminds you of your youth.


First child, "Old School" is a corporate made fake label.

No such thing. It's just classic real music and style you're referring too when you say that LABEL.

Second, your 20, one day you'll be 40, it's just around the corner, really, nd you will pine for Snoop and Timberlake and MP3's headache .

I feel for the kids now. I wonder what they'll have nostalgia for later. Music sucks, movies suck...toys suck...

People have passions for stuff that was cool. Stuff that remind them of a nicer, simpler, funner, maybe even "real-er" timem when people weren't afraid to be different or innovative.

BUT, I'm glad you find vinyl records cool. Whew.


Yeah, one mo' "whew" 4 you so you could low this high blood pressure, OLD PERSON lol

Whateva penut's butta yo jelly boo. I don't give a damn if "Old School" is REAL or FAKE term, the most important thang is you know what I'm talking about and we both agree on the same thang,,,case closed!

Peace
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Reply #18 posted 03/31/03 12:53pm

sojourner

Example: One good pair of ears can hear in which building some classical music is being recorded thanx to the differences in acoustics. This can be heard through listening to records and not by listening to cd's (even if it is the same recording). Those kind of little but important nuances make a record cooler.
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Reply #19 posted 03/31/03 8:54pm

FlyingCloudPas
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Harlepolis said:

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

Harlepolis said:

Everbody got passion 4 old school stuff no matta how much reasons they'll be telling you,,it is the fact that its old school and reminds you of your youth.


First child, "Old School" is a corporate made fake label.

No such thing. It's just classic real music and style you're referring too when you say that LABEL.

Second, your 20, one day you'll be 40, it's just around the corner, really, nd you will pine for Snoop and Timberlake and MP3's headache .

I feel for the kids now. I wonder what they'll have nostalgia for later. Music sucks, movies suck...toys suck...

People have passions for stuff that was cool. Stuff that remind them of a nicer, simpler, funner, maybe even "real-er" timem when people weren't afraid to be different or innovative.

BUT, I'm glad you find vinyl records cool. Whew.


Yeah, one mo' "whew" 4 you so you could low this high blood pressure, OLD PERSON lol

Whateva penut's butta yo jelly boo. I don't give a damn if "Old School" is REAL or FAKE term, the most important thang is you know what I'm talking about and we both agree on the same thang,,,case closed!

Peace


Just around the corner...just around the corner...
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Reply #20 posted 04/01/03 2:11pm

paisleypark4

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FlyingCloudPassenger said:

Harlepolis said:

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

Harlepolis said:

Everbody got passion 4 old school stuff no matta how much reasons they'll be telling you,,it is the fact that its old school and reminds you of your youth.


First child, "Old School" is a corporate made fake label.

No such thing. It's just classic real music and style you're referring too when you say that LABEL.

Second, your 20, one day you'll be 40, it's just around the corner, really, nd you will pine for Snoop and Timberlake and MP3's headache .

I feel for the kids now. I wonder what they'll have nostalgia for later. Music sucks, movies suck...toys suck...

People have passions for stuff that was cool. Stuff that remind them of a nicer, simpler, funner, maybe even "real-er" timem when people weren't afraid to be different or innovative.

BUT, I'm glad you find vinyl records cool. Whew.


Yeah, one mo' "whew" 4 you so you could low this high blood pressure, OLD PERSON lol

Whateva penut's butta yo jelly boo. I don't give a damn if "Old School" is REAL or FAKE term, the most important thang is you know what I'm talking about and we both agree on the same thang,,,case closed!

Peace


Just around the corner...just around the corner...


do new records sound cooler than the new CD's and stuff? What about those DVD CD's ?? hmm?
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Reply #21 posted 04/01/03 3:20pm

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Records are analog. They contain far more information than digital CD's. Digital would have to crank the resolution waaay up to reach the level achieved by analog recordings. In between each 0 and 1 is an infinite amount of information that is lost. Granted, even records are not infinitely accurate, but they are very true.

So if you record a vinyl album digitally and master it to CD, you've lost the very same analog edge, and usually end up with something worse than a CD master.
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