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Thread started 05/18/16 11:13am

getxxxx

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Linda Perry called Chaka Khan and other artist not relevant!

GO!

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Reply #1 posted 05/18/16 11:38am

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Who is Linda Perry?

In all fairness however, I see her point. These award shows are about ratings. I'm not saying getting Prince's contemporaries and acts that he's influenced to pay tribute isn't ratings poison but Madonna is a safer bet than them. These shows are all about money, not artistic integrity and unless the 2 intersect than more than likely, it all boils down to what's going to get more eyeballs on the screen. Madonna has enough reason to pay tribute even if her music isn't why she makes headlines these days.

That said, I do disagree with Madonna being the only performer to pay tribute at the show.
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Reply #2 posted 05/18/16 11:43am

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For drawing a big audience to a TV special, Chaka isn't relevant and neither is Larry Graham or The Time and they never really were. They're not ratings bait like Madonna. The Billboard Awards is a mainstream program on a major network (ABC). It's not the Soul Train or BET Awards. You're taking the quote out of context for your thread title.

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Reply #3 posted 05/18/16 11:45am

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MotownSubdivision said:

Who is Linda Perry?

She writes songs for many acts (like another well known songwriter Diane Warren) and was the lead singer of this 1990s band.


You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #4 posted 05/18/16 12:16pm

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Madonna is white. At least get some true talent to pay tribute.

Mickey is not relevant.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #5 posted 05/18/16 12:25pm

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Linda always tell it like it is. Love her!

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Reply #6 posted 05/18/16 12:31pm

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boo

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #7 posted 05/18/16 12:32pm

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getxxxx said:



GO!


--/ They could have Maddonna and a big jam session of artist he worked with. Just putting her up there is the problem. I do not blame Maddonna the Billboard people screwed this up. We should all wait and see if all of his band mates get together in the summer.
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Reply #8 posted 05/18/16 12:34pm

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Who exactly is Linda Perry? She isn't relevant to me because I never heard of her. lol

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Reply #9 posted 05/18/16 12:36pm

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MickyDolenz said:

For drawing a big audience to a TV special, Chaka isn't relevant and neither is Larry Graham or The Time and they never really were. They're not ratings bait like Madonna. The Billboard Awards is a mainstream program on a major network (ABC). It's not the Soul Train or BET Awards. You're taking the quote out of context for your thread title.

Go have a seat. All of those people can be on the show if they had a jam session. Maddonna and anyone comptempary could be in it. It ratings, money and race.
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Reply #10 posted 05/18/16 12:46pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Madonna is white.

ABC, NBC, CBS and mainstream media are white, so she fits.

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Reply #11 posted 05/18/16 12:48pm

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eek

Who?

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Reply #12 posted 05/18/16 1:35pm

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MickyDolenz said:



2freaky4church1 said:


Madonna is white.



ABC, NBC, CBS and mainstream media are white, so she fits.



---/ I am glad you know the real reason for this.
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Reply #13 posted 05/18/16 1:38pm

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MickyDolenz said:

For drawing a big audience to a TV special, Chaka isn't relevant and neither is Larry Graham or The Time and they never really were. They're not ratings bait like Madonna. The Billboard Awards is a mainstream program on a major network (ABC). It's not the Soul Train or BET Awards. You're taking the quote out of context for your thread title.


But the Time performed on the Grammys with Rihanna a few years back.
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Reply #14 posted 05/18/16 2:14pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

But the Time performed on the Grammys with Rihanna a few years back.

But with Rihanna, not by themselves and The Time was not advertised. Probably the only reason they got on there is because Jimmy Jam is on the Grammy board. The Grammys have done this several times, paired a veteran act with a young currently popular act. Like the Grammys had Stevie Wonder with the Jonas Brothers, Melissa Etherage with Joss Stone, Elton John with Eminem, Paul McCartney with Rihanna & Kanye West, Mick Jagger with Will.I.Am, and Beyoncé was paired with Tina Turner & Prince in different years. The Time was also not doing a tribute.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #15 posted 05/18/16 2:15pm

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I had to look her up to make myself knowledgeable on who she is. I guess I understand what she's saying but I'm definitely ok with Chaka Paying tribute, I'd rather see a variety of entertainers pay tribute Beyoncé, Madonna, ,Patti Labelle, ,Sting, etc. If nobody else Maxwell, Bilal, and D'angelo should be an absolute must have for a Prince tribute. Especially D'Angelo.
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Reply #16 posted 05/18/16 2:51pm

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I can definately see an all star funk fest tribute featuring Chaka, the time and larry graham on the BET or Soul Train awards. Those shows are our only hope for a memorable tribute. But most of the folks watching and attending the billboard awards are going to have absolutely no idea who these people are.
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Reply #17 posted 05/18/16 3:28pm

Glindathegood

Do we know for sure that only Madonna will be part of this tribute? I don't think that hasn't been confirmed. Perhaps she will include other artists too?

And it's not like this performance will be the only tribute to Prince ever. It will be the first of many high profile ones including something at the Grammys next year.

Now maybe these other artists that people want to be included aren't available to come to the Billboard show because they are busy touring or doing something else. But I'm sure they will do their own tributes to Prince on television at a later time.

Some people are acting like this one at the Billboard awards is the first and only tribute that will be done ever, which is not the case.

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Reply #18 posted 05/18/16 6:23pm

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I enjoyed the tribute done for BB King earlier this year. I personally was only familiar with Bonnie Raitt. There were two men with her. Did anyone see this? Were these obviously talented individuals considered relevant? I don't know. But what I could tell was BB King was very relevant to them. It showed in their performance.
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Reply #19 posted 05/18/16 7:54pm

lowkey

according to billboard madonna's people called them about doing the tribute so its not like she was at the top of their list, she made it about herself. i really dont think the kids watching the billboard awards to see justin beiber,ect. cares who does a prince tribute, his fans want to see a jam session with musicians he was close to or influenced by him. my advice is to skip this whitewashed mess and wait to see if bet gets it half way right.

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Reply #20 posted 05/18/16 10:29pm

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Graycap23 said:

eek



Who?


4 non blondes singer.

What's up. (mistakenly called "what's going on" because of the chorus- much to the dismay of karaoke singers who didn't expect Marvin Gaye on their screen, ha)

She also Co wrote a lot of p!nks second album (just like a pill, etc) which took her away from the R&B path she was headed to on her freshman effort.

That's all I know. I don't know if she's done anything newer than that.
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Reply #21 posted 05/18/16 10:31pm

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I was thinking about this today and the conclusion that I came to is that Madonna is a true peer. That was a criticism of Gaga doing a tribute to David Bowie. She wasn't a true peer. And it kinda showed.

Prince's showmanship and charisma is sorta off the chart. We're bound to be disappointed with whomever does it.

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Reply #22 posted 05/19/16 2:30am

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Chaka: "I am Relevant no matter what you say"
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #23 posted 05/19/16 2:39am

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purplethunder3121 said:

Who exactly is Linda Perry? She isn't relevant to me because I never heard of her. lol


Songwriter-producer to the stars. She doesn't sound like she has any interest in working with musicians outside of the corporate record label world or as she would probably call them "Irrelevant".
I can't even be bothered going into what each person considers to themself to be relevant in terms of artistry.

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Reply #24 posted 05/19/16 4:49am

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Try and see the bigger picture.

Madonna was a peer and a friend and probably the only person alive who knows what it was like to be in that 80's magic with Prince and MJ.

I think M will do a brilliant job paying tribute to P and shut up all those complaining about her (again).

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Reply #25 posted 05/19/16 6:33am

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rlittler81 said:

Try and see the bigger picture.

Madonna was a peer and a friend and probably the only person alive who knows what it was like to be in that 80's magic with Prince and MJ.

I think M will do a brilliant job paying tribute to P and shut up all those complaining about her (again).

Some where Lionel Richie, George Michael, Peter Gabriel, Sting......and others are like: eek

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Reply #26 posted 05/19/16 9:48am

Musicslave

Of course Chaka, Time, Larry, and them are relevant. They may not be commercial enough to stimulate ad purchase for television but they're relevant. I wouldn't look to Billboard for an authentic musical tribute anyway. Hell, I doubt if Prince would either. He knew the game.

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Besides, my eyes are a little watery now due to the performance clips featured after viewing Linda's comments. DAMN

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Reply #27 posted 05/19/16 10:20am

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Shaolin325 said:

I enjoyed the tribute done for BB King earlier this year. I personally was only familiar with Bonnie Raitt. There were two men with her. Did anyone see this? Were these obviously talented individuals considered relevant? I don't know. But what I could tell was BB King was very relevant to them. It showed in their performance.

I saw that. I think one of them was the new country singer Chris Stapleton. He's performed B.B. King's songs in his own show. Chris is more bluesy than the more mainstream popular "bro country" acts.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #28 posted 05/19/16 11:13am

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Graycap23 said:

rlittler81 said:

Try and see the bigger picture.

Madonna was a peer and a friend and probably the only person alive who knows what it was like to be in that 80's magic with Prince and MJ.

I think M will do a brilliant job paying tribute to P and shut up all those complaining about her (again).

Some where Lionel Richie, George Michael, Peter Gabriel, Sting......and others are like: eek

exactly. why do people try to act like mj,prince and madonna were the only big stars in the 80s? lionel ritchie, george michael, springstein and others had just as big eras (besides thriller) as those 3.

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Reply #29 posted 05/19/16 4:59pm

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lowkey said:

Graycap23 said:

Some where Lionel Richie, George Michael, Peter Gabriel, Sting......and others are like: eek

exactly. why do people try to act like mj,prince and madonna were the only big stars in the 80s? lionel ritchie, george michael, springstein and others had just as big eras (besides thriller) as those 3.

They had hits and sold records, but they didn't have the same cultural impact, as MJ, Prince and Madonna. They weren't as visual, they didn't have a strong point of view as far as gender, sexuality and race. They were more conformist and bland. they didn't challenge society like MJ, Prince and Madonna.

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