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shiloh66

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Duran Duran Paper Gods Tour

I saw them play Monday night for the start of the east coast leg of their tour and it was really great! I liked the new songs and the old ones sound as good as ever. It was a small venue (<3,000 seats) which made it all the better.



Set List:

Paper Gods
Wild Boys
Hungry like the Wold
A View To A Kill
Come Undone
Last Night in the City
What Are the Chances
Notorious
Pressure Off
Planet Earth/Space Oddity
Ordinary Wold
I Don’t Want Your Love
White Lines
Sunrise/NewMoon On Monday
Dancephobia/TooMuchInformation/GirlsOnFilm

Encore:
Save a Prayer

Rio


Has any one else seen the new tour? Is anyone planning to?

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Reply #1 posted 03/30/16 12:25pm

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They always find a way to tap into something that leads to something huge. shout outs forever, they got mad skills. Simons voice is comforting,raucous n wild .. Fun band

Hungry like a wolf ...

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Reply #2 posted 03/30/16 12:39pm

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Glad you enjoyed the show. They are a great band to see live at least once. The setlist seems a little shorter this leg of the tour. I saw them last October during the first leg of the tour. I'm excited that New Moon on Monday and I Don't Want Your Love are included. We didn't get that last year. Hope to see them in the summer in Las Vegas.
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Reply #3 posted 03/30/16 1:39pm

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How was CHIC

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Reply #4 posted 03/30/16 2:00pm

Glindathegood

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How was CHIC

I believe the earlier shows don't have CHIC and are in smaller venues. I'm seeing them in a few weeks at the Verizon Center which is a bigger venue and which CHIC is opening.

I'm looking forward to it since I've always been a fan but have never seen them before.

The setlist does seem quite short, but perhaps they will add more songs for the arena shows.

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Reply #5 posted 03/30/16 4:29pm

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Get rightside up and check them out.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #6 posted 03/30/16 7:03pm

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No CHIC at this show. That was the trade off for seeing them in the smaller venue. The opener was Shamir. He was just ok.

The show was just about 2 hrs - I thought it was a decent length, there's always more that could be included of course.

Here's the newspaper review, which honestly focuses more on the crowd than the show, but that's ok: http://www.newsobserver.c...3837.html.
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Reply #7 posted 03/31/16 4:46am

Glindathegood

This is a really good interview with Simon where he talks about the music.

http://cltampa.com/earbuds/archives/2016/03/31/a-qanda-with-simon-le-bon-who-hits-town-with-duran-duran-on-saturday#.Vv0LIK6LWjQ

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Reply #8 posted 03/31/16 5:57am

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Glindathegood said:

This is a really good interview with Simon where he talks about the music.

http://cltampa.com/earbuds/archives/2016/03/31/a-qanda-with-simon-le-bon-who-hits-town-with-duran-duran-on-saturday#.Vv0LIK6LWjQ

Good interview! I actually had not listened to the new album before the show, but have had it on heavy rotation since. I really like it!

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Reply #9 posted 03/31/16 7:21am

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Duran Duran always do good tours, and in their later years the LIVE act has gotten stronger as opposed to early on when you probably couldn't enjoy them over the screaming girls. Two hours seems about what you will get out of most acts, I'm more about what are they playing as opposed to so much focusing on length, I am glad newer stuff is in, the of "course" we have to do those songs are there, a good mix, the new album is really good, my SECOND favorite tour going, a-ha "Cast In Steel" tour now on it's second leg, lots of rare never played stuff.


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Reply #10 posted 04/01/16 4:39pm

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Sounded like the perfect show, a couple of newer songs and the latest single and then a set list of their 80s classics. All that was missing was "Skin Trade" a true Prince derivative.

And they played Come Undone and Ordinary world, their two classic 1993 comeback jams.

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They must be getting on though, Simon Le Bon is 57 and the others are all mid/late 50s now.

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Reply #11 posted 04/01/16 10:26pm

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shiloh66 said:

I saw them play Monday night for the start of the east coast leg of their tour and it was really great! I liked the new songs and the old ones sound as good as ever. It was a small venue (<3,000 seats) which made it all the better.





Set List:


Paper Gods
Wild Boys
Hungry like the Wold
A View To A Kill
Come Undone
Last Night in the City
What Are the Chances
Notorious
Pressure Off
Planet Earth/Space Oddity
Ordinary Wold
I Don’t Want Your Love
White Lines
Sunrise/NewMoon On Monday
Dancephobia/TooMuchInformation/GirlsOnFilm

Encore:
Save a Prayer


Rio





New moon on monday??? Wow!! Did they play that in full?




Has any one else seen the new tour? Is anyone planning to?


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Reply #12 posted 04/02/16 11:31am

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Adorecream said:

Sounded like the perfect show, a couple of newer songs and the latest single and then a set list of their 80s classics. All that was missing was "Skin Trade" a true Prince derivative.

And they played Come Undone and Ordinary world, their two classic 1993 comeback jams.

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They must be getting on though, Simon Le Bon is 57 and the others are all mid/late 50s now.

[Edited 4/1/16 16:40pm]

The musicianship is so much stronger now, 99.9% of the 80's acts play better now live than they did then.


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Reply #13 posted 04/02/16 4:42pm

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lastdecember said:

Adorecream said:

Sounded like the perfect show, a couple of newer songs and the latest single and then a set list of their 80s classics. All that was missing was "Skin Trade" a true Prince derivative.

And they played Come Undone and Ordinary world, their two classic 1993 comeback jams.

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They must be getting on though, Simon Le Bon is 57 and the others are all mid/late 50s now.

[Edited 4/1/16 16:40pm]

The musicianship is so much stronger now, 99.9% of the 80's acts play better now live than they did then.

As far as playing instruments that may be true, but not always when it comes to singing. A lot of singers from the 80's their voices are not as good as they were in the past. Simon is an exception as his voice is pretty much the same.

I love Duran Duran, but I don't really buy this thing that all older groups are wonderful and all newer groups are bad. I think some times people look at their favorite older groups through rose colored glasses. For every Duran Duran who is still great, there are many older groups just going through the motions for money.

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Reply #14 posted 04/02/16 9:10pm

Adorecream

The audiences in general age with the bands. There are always exceptions with new fans, but the average age in the audience was probably 40s. Just like the recent Prince shows, mostly people in the late 30s to early 50s, a few younger and older, but primarily early middle age like most of us. Yet back in the days of Prince to 1999, it was young 20 somethings and late teens in the audience and by Purple Rain, most concertgoers were teeny boppers as well, and no doubt these teeny boppers are middle aged today.

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I mean on Youtube there is a behind a music on Duran Duran and it has Nick Rhodes saying the 1987 Notorious tour was the first where the audience appeared to be listening to them, rather than screaming at them, like in a Wham! concert or anything they did up to and including Arena.

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Reply #15 posted 04/02/16 9:12pm

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lastdecember said:

The musicianship is so much stronger now, 99.9% of the 80's acts play better now live than they did then.

As far as playing instruments that may be true, but not always when it comes to singing. A lot of singers from the 80's their voices are not as good as they were in the past. Simon is an exception as his voice is pretty much the same.

I love Duran Duran, but I don't really buy this thing that all older groups are wonderful and all newer groups are bad. I think some times people look at their favorite older groups through rose colored glasses. For every Duran Duran who is still great, there are many older groups just going through the motions for money.

If you are still putting out new albums to me you have the right to tour just as much as anyone else. Most of these older bands that PUT OUT NEW STUFF don't really want to sit there and play songs that you just heard earlier that day on the oldies stations, so they do it to please the fans who come out, but then have to hear the whiners who complain about why doesnt so and so sound like he did on the record 30 years ago, dumb. There are new bands that can play but the way the industry is set up now, no one goes to see shows by new bands unless they are on a bill with 10 other bands. Also people need to just deal with it, sorry that the lead singer doesnt sound like he did when he was 20 and now he is 57 or doesnt excite you that way still, people get older and grow up but this nonsense that artists do not get better with age is BULLSHIT sorry but it is, fans just some time cannot let their faded tshirts go. Why do actors get better but not singers and writers? why do ALMOST never hear someone say this new Tom Hanks film isnt good why can't he something like he did in the 80's like "the man with one red shoe" or why can't Sean Penn do films like that shit he did with Madonna anymore, give me a break. Aritsts grow up, listeners need to mature too.


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Reply #16 posted 04/04/16 6:57am

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lastdecember said:

Glindathegood said:

As far as playing instruments that may be true, but not always when it comes to singing. A lot of singers from the 80's their voices are not as good as they were in the past. Simon is an exception as his voice is pretty much the same.

I love Duran Duran, but I don't really buy this thing that all older groups are wonderful and all newer groups are bad. I think some times people look at their favorite older groups through rose colored glasses. For every Duran Duran who is still great, there are many older groups just going through the motions for money.

If you are still putting out new albums to me you have the right to tour just as much as anyone else. Most of these older bands that PUT OUT NEW STUFF don't really want to sit there and play songs that you just heard earlier that day on the oldies stations, so they do it to please the fans who come out, but then have to hear the whiners who complain about why doesnt so and so sound like he did on the record 30 years ago, dumb. There are new bands that can play but the way the industry is set up now, no one goes to see shows by new bands unless they are on a bill with 10 other bands. Also people need to just deal with it, sorry that the lead singer doesnt sound like he did when he was 20 and now he is 57 or doesnt excite you that way still, people get older and grow up but this nonsense that artists do not get better with age is BULLSHIT sorry but it is, fans just some time cannot let their faded tshirts go. Why do actors get better but not singers and writers? why do ALMOST never hear someone say this new Tom Hanks film isnt good why can't he something like he did in the 80's like "the man with one red shoe" or why can't Sean Penn do films like that shit he did with Madonna anymore, give me a break. Aritsts grow up, listeners need to mature too.

I wasn't referring to artists that put out new albums. I was referring to older artists who do nostalgia tours without new music. There are many.

There are some older artists who have abused their voices and who just don't sound good anymore. Sorry that's reality. You can't blame fans for hearing that some artists' voices just aren't good anymore. That is on the artist for not taking care of their voice better. And I don't think it's a great look to attack fans if they don't like a band's music or performances anymore. They have the right to their opinion. If an artist moves on, so do their fans. Fans have a right to not like something, they aren't required to be forever loyal to an artist they liked 30 years ago if it's no longer good.

I see the opposite. Some people are so attached to their favorite older artists emotionally, they can't see that some of them are not really that good anymore. As I said none of this applies to Duran Duran because they are still wonderful and better than ever. But not every band is Duran Duran. I feel though some fans are so loyal to their older artists, they are missing out on a lot of great new bands. You say you can't expect artists to sound the same 30 years later. But Simon sounds exactly the same! Why not hold other artists to Duran Duran's high standard?

Every artist is different. You only get better if you make a conscious choice to improve and work hard and don't take your talent for granted. You don't get better purely by getting older. Some older artists are better now, some are worse. It's a very individual thing. Not every actor gets better. But singing is much more physical than acting. They aren't the same. Voices decline with time, especially if you abuse them through smoking, drugs or lack of formal vocal training. That's just a fact.

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Reply #17 posted 04/04/16 2:29pm

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lastdecember said:

If you are still putting out new albums to me you have the right to tour just as much as anyone else. Most of these older bands that PUT OUT NEW STUFF don't really want to sit there and play songs that you just heard earlier that day on the oldies stations, so they do it to please the fans who come out, but then have to hear the whiners who complain about why doesnt so and so sound like he did on the record 30 years ago, dumb. There are new bands that can play but the way the industry is set up now, no one goes to see shows by new bands unless they are on a bill with 10 other bands. Also people need to just deal with it, sorry that the lead singer doesnt sound like he did when he was 20 and now he is 57 or doesnt excite you that way still, people get older and grow up but this nonsense that artists do not get better with age is BULLSHIT sorry but it is, fans just some time cannot let their faded tshirts go. Why do actors get better but not singers and writers? why do ALMOST never hear someone say this new Tom Hanks film isnt good why can't he something like he did in the 80's like "the man with one red shoe" or why can't Sean Penn do films like that shit he did with Madonna anymore, give me a break. Aritsts grow up, listeners need to mature too.

I wasn't referring to artists that put out new albums. I was referring to older artists who do nostalgia tours without new music. There are many.

There are some older artists who have abused their voices and who just don't sound good anymore. Sorry that's reality. You can't blame fans for hearing that some artists' voices just aren't good anymore. That is on the artist for not taking care of their voice better. And I don't think it's a great look to attack fans if they don't like a band's music or performances anymore. They have the right to their opinion. If an artist moves on, so do their fans. Fans have a right to not like something, they aren't required to be forever loyal to an artist they liked 30 years ago if it's no longer good.

I see the opposite. Some people are so attached to their favorite older artists emotionally, they can't see that some of them are not really that good anymore. As I said none of this applies to Duran Duran because they are still wonderful and better than ever. But not every band is Duran Duran. I feel though some fans are so loyal to their older artists, they are missing out on a lot of great new bands. You say you can't expect artists to sound the same 30 years later. But Simon sounds exactly the same! Why not hold other artists to Duran Duran's high standard?

Every artist is different. You only get better if you make a conscious choice to improve and work hard and don't take your talent for granted. You don't get better purely by getting older. Some older artists are better now, some are worse. It's a very individual thing. Not every actor gets better. But singing is much more physical than acting. They aren't the same. Voices decline with time, especially if you abuse them through smoking, drugs or lack of formal vocal training. That's just a fact.

I get what you say, to me I don't like laundry list artists, meaning the Tolling Stones, The Who and even Billy Joel who I love needs to stop already playing MSG we get it, your the "Piano Man" to me that has to be an empty feeling, I honestly would rather Billy record classical and never tour.

I put down a lot of my favorite artists for albums, Prince being one who is on some sort of "cosmic bad album trip" right now. Duran Duran is a different animal but so are Depeche Mode though now it looks they might not be together more, Dave Gahan's vocals are strong still and he's done a ton of drugs as we know. Simon is still strong, but the funny thing about Duran Duran and simon and nick said this, we can't seem to keep a good run going, everytime they HIT a good stride they have an awful idea, like the "Thank You" album, or "Red Carpet Massacre" but you try shit and sometimes it doesn't work, people get pissed that I dog "RCM" but sorry most of that album is not good, and when your producer has no clue what a "bass guitar" is you are in trouble.

a-ha to me since their reformation in 1998, and with their albums from 2000-2015 steered the ship the right way, vocally Morten still has it, but for someone that has to do the vocals he has too on a lot of tracks of their's his voice has thinned out, and he doesnt smoke or do drugs, he is actually a vegan, but he isn't 26, 36 or 46 anymore he is 56, and he adjusts, they are not doing damage, notes are hit, and like they said if there was not new material we would not tour or get together, but that is them some want to go to a show and hear the same songs all the time, to me I don't, if you want to sprinkle in hits or known cuts but also do what you want as the artist, the ticket purchase says nothing about what you get to hear.

TO me off the bat these are 80's bands that still bring the goods, Duran, Simple Minds, a-ha, Pet Shop Boys to name a few.


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Reply #18 posted 04/05/16 4:15am

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lastdecember said:


I get what you say, to me I don't like laundry list artists, meaning the Tolling Stones, The Who and even Billy Joel who I love needs to stop already playing MSG we get it, your the "Piano Man" to me that has to be an empty feeling, I honestly would rather Billy record classical and never tour.

I put down a lot of my favorite artists for albums, Prince being one who is on some sort of "cosmic bad album trip" right now. Duran Duran is a different animal but so are Depeche Mode though now it looks they might not be together more, Dave Gahan's vocals are strong still and he's done a ton of drugs as we know. Simon is still strong, but the funny thing about Duran Duran and simon and nick said this, we can't seem to keep a good run going, everytime they HIT a good stride they have an awful idea, like the "Thank You" album, or "Red Carpet Massacre" but you try shit and sometimes it doesn't work, people get pissed that I dog "RCM" but sorry most of that album is not good, and when your producer has no clue what a "bass guitar" is you are in trouble.

a-ha to me since their reformation in 1998, and with their albums from 2000-2015 steered the ship the right way, vocally Morten still has it, but for someone that has to do the vocals he has too on a lot of tracks of their's his voice has thinned out, and he doesnt smoke or do drugs, he is actually a vegan, but he isn't 26, 36 or 46 anymore he is 56, and he adjusts, they are not doing damage, notes are hit, and like they said if there was not new material we would not tour or get together, but that is them some want to go to a show and hear the same songs all the time, to me I don't, if you want to sprinkle in hits or known cuts but also do what you want as the artist, the ticket purchase says nothing about what you get to hear.

TO me off the bat these are 80's bands that still bring the goods, Duran, Simple Minds, a-ha, Pet Shop Boys to name a few.

I have to disagree with a bit with you about DD and RCM. I love that album. In fact, I hadn't paid much attention to them in years, but that album really got me back into them. I don't really think it's as different as some people claim, it still sounds like DD with a modern twist. DD has never been a typical rock band, they've always used a lot of synths and electronics. I'm not one of those people who thinks the only good or real music, is just conventional rock instruments. I like modern electronic soundscapes if they are done well. What I love about DD is they do experiment with different sounds and ideas even if some of their hard core fans don't like it. To me, a lot of older artists when they do a new album don't experiment or change enough. They stick to their old formula but it's a paler version of their older music, not as good, but not really anything that different.

As far as setlists, I feel a artist should balance what they want to play with what the fans want. Too far in either direction is bad to me. I like some hits, some older rarities and the new material. At the end of the day, they are playing to the public who are paying and I think it's arrogant to completely ignore what people want and the older songs fans know. They should realize that without the older songs they wouldn't have fans and music is connected to memories for most people. But on the other hand, it's boring to always play the same exact hits with no different songs. So to me a balance is best. If an artist wants to just play rare or new songs with no hits, I think that's fine. But they should make fans aware of that before they buy a ticket, so people know what they are paying for, and if they want to hear hits not to buy a ticket.

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lastdecember said:

I get what you say, to me I don't like laundry list artists, meaning the Tolling Stones, The Who and even Billy Joel who I love needs to stop already playing MSG we get it, your the "Piano Man" to me that has to be an empty feeling, I honestly would rather Billy record classical and never tour.

I put down a lot of my favorite artists for albums, Prince being one who is on some sort of "cosmic bad album trip" right now. Duran Duran is a different animal but so are Depeche Mode though now it looks they might not be together more, Dave Gahan's vocals are strong still and he's done a ton of drugs as we know. Simon is still strong, but the funny thing about Duran Duran and simon and nick said this, we can't seem to keep a good run going, everytime they HIT a good stride they have an awful idea, like the "Thank You" album, or "Red Carpet Massacre" but you try shit and sometimes it doesn't work, people get pissed that I dog "RCM" but sorry most of that album is not good, and when your producer has no clue what a "bass guitar" is you are in trouble.

a-ha to me since their reformation in 1998, and with their albums from 2000-2015 steered the ship the right way, vocally Morten still has it, but for someone that has to do the vocals he has too on a lot of tracks of their's his voice has thinned out, and he doesnt smoke or do drugs, he is actually a vegan, but he isn't 26, 36 or 46 anymore he is 56, and he adjusts, they are not doing damage, notes are hit, and like they said if there was not new material we would not tour or get together, but that is them some want to go to a show and hear the same songs all the time, to me I don't, if you want to sprinkle in hits or known cuts but also do what you want as the artist, the ticket purchase says nothing about what you get to hear.

TO me off the bat these are 80's bands that still bring the goods, Duran, Simple Minds, a-ha, Pet Shop Boys to name a few.

I have to disagree with a bit with you about DD and RCM. I love that album. In fact, I hadn't paid much attention to them in years, but that album really got me back into them. I don't really think it's as different as some people claim, it still sounds like DD with a modern twist. DD has never been a typical rock band, they've always used a lot of synths and electronics. I'm not one of those people who thinks the only good or real music, is just conventional rock instruments. I like modern electronic soundscapes if they are done well. What I love about DD is they do experiment with different sounds and ideas even if some of their hard core fans don't like it. To me, a lot of older artists when they do a new album don't experiment or change enough. They stick to their old formula but it's a paler version of their older music, not as good, but not really anything that different.

As far as setlists, I feel a artist should balance what they want to play with what the fans want. Too far in either direction is bad to me. I like some hits, some older rarities and the new material. At the end of the day, they are playing to the public who are paying and I think it's arrogant to completely ignore what people want and the older songs fans know. They should realize that without the older songs they wouldn't have fans and music is connected to memories for most people. But on the other hand, it's boring to always play the same exact hits with no different songs. So to me a balance is best. If an artist wants to just play rare or new songs with no hits, I think that's fine. But they should make fans aware of that before they buy a ticket, so people know what they are paying for, and if they want to hear hits not to buy a ticket.

Well again it is different to everyone, playing nonstop HITS to me leads to the artists getting lazy with their new stuff IMO. I look at the bands that do laundry list hit sets, groups like Chicago who I love but their last few albums have not been that good at all, and they don't play anything from them live, so to me why record it if you never play it. When Prince did Emancipation he had 36 new songs to work with and never played more than 3 or 4 in a show at one point had it down to 2 and this was his supposed "freedom" record.

With sound changes you run into issues because like you said fans some at least want HITS and many of those don't want change in sound. In 1990 on their 4th album a-ha threw away all the synths and people were like "woah what are you guys doing playing instruments", then they disbanded in 1993 came back in 1998 with a new sound that was nothing like either era working with German producers and and that a few years later working with Martin Terfere who basically was someone that Coldplay owe quite a lot too. So they have been all over the map then in 2010 did a more synth album and people were like you are going back to your roots, which anyone who has heard that album is nothing like their 80's stuff at all except for the fact that they did more programming than they did over the last decade and a half. So fans will always want THAT sound you gave them that they got into you with and then not be able to deal with the change and then some will want the change. As the keyboardist from a-ha said, "We didn't stop playing, America fell off and so we always played where we were accepted" to me that is how you have to be.


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Went to the show last night at Barclays Center. Good show even though Simon needs to bring the key down in some of the songs esp A View To A Kill. I could tell he was straining his voice on a few songs.

CHIC kicked ass and it was dope Nile joined DD during their set. I dont know why Lindsey Lohan came out on stage last night at one point.

Missed Shamir, it was also his last night on the tour. Saw his stuff on YouTube wasn't mad I missed him.

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Went to the show last night at Barclays Center. Good show even though Simon needs to bring the key down in some of the songs esp A View To A Kill. I could tell he was straining his voice on a few songs.

CHIC kicked ass and it was dope Nile joined DD during their set. I dont know why Lindsey Lohan came out on stage last night at one point.

Missed Shamir, it was also his last night on the tour. Saw his stuff on YouTube wasn't mad I missed him.

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Lindsay Lohan has a spoken part on a song from Paper Gods called Dancephobia. So that's why she was there.

Yes, I also noticed that Simon strained for a few high notes on some songs. I'm not sure if he always sounds that way or it was because he has a cold or the strain of touring. In other performances I've heard recently I didn't hear the same strain.

Chic and Nile were definitely the highlight of the show. I also missed Shamir. I know they are on a deadline, but they do start a bit earlier. I think Shamir started at 8. It's a little difficult if you are working to get there that early, if you go home to change clothes and have dinner etc.

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Reply #22 posted 04/13/16 6:09am

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Well again it is different to everyone, playing nonstop HITS to me leads to the artists getting lazy with their new stuff IMO. I look at the bands that do laundry list hit sets, groups like Chicago who I love but their last few albums have not been that good at all, and they don't play anything from them live, so to me why record it if you never play it. When Prince did Emancipation he had 36 new songs to work with and never played more than 3 or 4 in a show at one point had it down to 2 and this was his supposed "freedom" record.

With sound changes you run into issues because like you said fans some at least want HITS and many of those don't want change in sound. In 1990 on their 4th album a-ha threw away all the synths and people were like "woah what are you guys doing playing instruments", then they disbanded in 1993 came back in 1998 with a new sound that was nothing like either era working with German producers and and that a few years later working with Martin Terfere who basically was someone that Coldplay owe quite a lot too. So they have been all over the map then in 2010 did a more synth album and people were like you are going back to your roots, which anyone who has heard that album is nothing like their 80's stuff at all except for the fact that they did more programming than they did over the last decade and a half. So fans will always want THAT sound you gave them that they got into you with and then not be able to deal with the change and then some will want the change. As the keyboardist from a-ha said, "We didn't stop playing, America fell off and so we always played where we were accepted" to me that is how you have to be.

Yes, that does annoy me a bit when artists won't play anything from certain albums. But artists do have a right to reevaluate their work. Sometimes you record something and later you decide it wasn't that good.

With older songs again, I like artists to find a balance. I like it when artists change and modernize the arrangements a bit, but not so much that it sounds like a completely different song and they abandon the original melody. With new music, I like artists to change a bit, but not so much they abandon the strengths and they sound like a completely different artist. So again there's a happy medium between the two extremes you can hit.

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Reply #23 posted 04/13/16 6:44am

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getxxxx said:

Went to the show last night at Barclays Center. Good show even though Simon needs to bring the key down in some of the songs esp A View To A Kill. I could tell he was straining his voice on a few songs.

CHIC kicked ass and it was dope Nile joined DD during their set. I dont know why Lindsey Lohan came out on stage last night at one point.

Missed Shamir, it was also his last night on the tour. Saw his stuff on YouTube wasn't mad I missed him.

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Lindsay Lohan has a spoken part on a song from Paper Gods called Dancephobia. So that's why she was there.

Yes, I also noticed that Simon strained for a few high notes on some songs. I'm not sure if he always sounds that way or it was because he has a cold or the strain of touring. In other performances I've heard recently I didn't hear the same strain.

Chic and Nile were definitely the highlight of the show. I also missed Shamir. I know they are on a deadline, but they do start a bit earlier. I think Shamir started at 8. It's a little difficult if you are working to get there that early, if you go home to change clothes and have dinner etc.

He hit all the notes with no problem when I saw him... probably just a little off with performing so often on tour.

I am sad that CHIC didn't play the show I went to. Would have loved to see Nile jam with DD.

And definitely don't worry about missing Shamir. He has a decent and unique voice, but the songs are not that great and he really needs to work on the stage presence.

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Reply #24 posted 04/13/16 10:07am

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And definitely don't worry about missing Shamir. He has a decent and unique voice, but the songs are not that great and he really needs to work on the stage presence.

SHAMIR last night on the show was LAST NIGHT at BARCLAYS....

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
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