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KCOOLMUZIQ

Angie Stone and Sequence Accuse Bruno Mars of Stealing Song

Thursday, February 25, 2016

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Singer Angie Stone and the 1970s rap group Sequence are involved in anongoing legal dispute with singer/songwriter Bruno Mars and DJ Mark Ronson over their sampled songs “Funk You Up” and the Grammy Award-winning “Uptown Funk”.

Sequence was one of the first bold name female rap groups on the hip hop scene in the 1970s.

Their songs have been sampled dozens of times by multiple artists including Mars, Ronson, Dr. Dre, Erykah Badu, Trina, En Vogue, and Old dirty Bastard.

Ronson’s 2014 music video for “Uptown Funk”, featuring Mars, garnered over 1.3 billion views on Youtube.com.

“This is not and has not been an overnight issue, nor following the Grammy bandwagon party,” wrote publicist Kali Bowyer in an email toSandrarose.com. “This fight did not just begin. The issues and paperwork date back going on close to two years.”

She added: “With respect to [the] Robinson family, it has been quite a lengthy process of formal and informal dealings with the Robinson family. It has been a rough ride for the ladies, in attempts to settle all issues surrounding the music.”

Read the full text of the email below:

Sequence

Both Angie Stone, along with Blondy of the 70’s first female hip-hop group “The Sequence”, publicly spoke out yesterday, on the facts relating to the issues surrounding the song “Uptown Funk” performed by Bruno Mars. and in relation to the Robinson family and their 1979 song “Funk You Up”.

This is not and has not been an overnight issue, nor following the Grammy bandwagon party. This fight did not just begin, the issues and paperwork date back going on close to two years, over the songs ‘Uptown Funk” and “Funk You Up”, and with the issue in respects to Bruno dates back to the actual release date of “Uptown Funk”.

With respect to Robinson family, it has been quite a lengthy process of formal and informal dealings with the Robinson family, it has been a rough ride for the ladies, in attempts to settle all issues surrounding the music.

However Mark Ronson, along with everyone involved was put on notice upon the release of the song “Uptown Funk”.

After a total of eleven writers were mentioned, as writers, of the song “Uptown Funk” during the Grammy Awards, and the “Sequence” was then omitted from said list, the fight has taken a different turn.

Other artists who have sampled and used their song “Funk You Up”, are as follows: (besides Bruno Mars)

Dr Dre, Erykah Badu, Trina, En Vogue, Old dirty Bastard, and that’s just to name a few, the list goes on.

Cheryl Cook (Cheryl The Pearl), Gwendolyn Chisolm (Blondie), and lead singer/rapper Angie Brown Stone (Angie B.) aka “The Sequence”, will continue to move forward with legal remedies this week.

However, Bruno Mars and Mark Ronson, along with their legal counsel should look forward to a resolve as we would hate for this to get any uglier than it is now. As well as hopefully put this to bed, and move forward in their lives, and do what they do best, making hit records.

– Kali Bowyer, Publicist Angie Stone and The Sequence
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This song has ripped off so many different artist songs. I feel it's a TOTAL rip off of The prince sound from start to finish. How is it any money left to give after over 11 writers for the composition? Not to mention the countless undisclosed amounts given to artist like The Gap band for sampling.

I guess some artist need to be more original when they write songs. Like prince is..

http://sandrarose.com/2016/02/angie-stone-and-sequence-accuse-bruno-mars-of-stealing-song/

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #1 posted 02/25/16 8:16am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Like prince is..

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #2 posted 02/25/16 9:02am

KCOOLMUZIQ

rolleyes

Bruno barely has three albums out & is already embroiled in several copyright infringements.

prince has almost 40 albums of original material under his belt. Plus hundreds locked away in the vault. With all of that another artist is bound to come up with a similar beat sometimes. It's only so many sounds to make or come up with. She's lucky to even have that beat in common with prince...

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #3 posted 02/25/16 9:34am

Empress

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rolleyes

Bruno barely has three albums out & is already embroiled in several copyright infringements.

prince has almost 40 albums of original material under his belt. Plus hundreds locked away in the vault. With all of that another artist is bound to come up with a similar beat sometimes. It's only so many sounds to make or come up with. She's lucky to even have that beat in common with prince...

You are incredibly delusional and pathetic at times. Do you think these celebrities you put on your pedestal are going to come running to you to be their PR person? Why can't you face reality when it comes to celebrities? They are just people, nothing more.

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Reply #4 posted 02/25/16 9:47am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

She's lucky to even have that beat in common with prince...

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #5 posted 02/25/16 10:17am

KCOOLMUZIQ

Empress said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

rolleyes

Bruno barely has three albums out & is already embroiled in several copyright infringements.

prince has almost 40 albums of original material under his belt. Plus hundreds locked away in the vault. With all of that another artist is bound to come up with a similar beat sometimes. It's only so many sounds to make or come up with. She's lucky to even have that beat in common with prince...

You are incredibly delusional and pathetic at times. Do you think these celebrities you put on your pedestal are going to come running to you to be their PR person? Why can't you face reality when it comes to celebrities? They are just people, nothing more.

This is an entertainment site made in honor of prince & other newsworthy individuals. I will continue to post on WHOMEVER I want to @ any given moment! Since I've been in the industry since twelve. I'm more than qualified to do so. If you don't like it DON'T READ IT!

You're nothing but a bitter hater & a stalker!

[Edited 2/25/16 10:36am]

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #6 posted 02/25/16 4:29pm

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OMG please lol
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #7 posted 02/25/16 5:38pm

nd33

I said this on the Blurred Lines thread. This is way more legit than that B.L., B.S.

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Reply #8 posted 02/25/16 7:04pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Empress said:

You are incredibly delusional and pathetic at times. Do you think these celebrities you put on your pedestal are going to come running to you to be their PR person? Why can't you face reality when it comes to celebrities? They are just people, nothing more.

This is an entertainment site made in honor of prince & other newsworthy individuals. I will continue to post on WHOMEVER I want to @ any given moment! Since I've been in the industry since twelve. I'm more than qualified to do so. If you don't like it DON'T READ IT!

You're nothing but a bitter hater & a stalker!

[Edited 2/25/16 10:36am]


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Reply #9 posted 02/25/16 10:17pm

woogiebear

1)The Sequence did NOT get paid for "Funk You Up" when it originally come out. Sylvia Robinson got ALL that $$$!!!! 2)When Dr. Dre sampled it for "Keep Their Heads Ringing", They STILL didn't get paid for it!!!! 3)When Erykah Badu sampled it on Her "Worldwide Underground" CD, They STILL didn't get paid for it (even though Badu featured Angie Stone on the track)!!! Angie B became Angie Stone, because She wasn't making no Hip-Hop $$$!!!! This is some BOGUS ASS SH*T!!!! PLEASE STOP IT!!!

eek eek eek

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Reply #10 posted 02/26/16 4:15am

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The only thing I see in Black & White is that The Gap Band was given co-writing credits for Uptown Funk...So is Sequence battling over lyrics, music or both?

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Reply #11 posted 02/26/16 7:41am

nd33

I'm guessing that they're suing over the rhythmic phrase "Up - town, funk-you-up; Uptown-funk-you-up" being very similar to their own "Funk - you, right-on-up; gonna-funk - you, right-on-up".

What's interesting about this, is that it's the exact same part of the song that Gap Band claimed over!

Up town funk you up

Funk you right on up

Oops up side your head

When peeps were going on about "Uptown Funk" ripping off "Oops", I was saying that "Funk You Up" is even closer!

To me, this highlights the ridiculousness of the Blurred Lines case, which didn't have any lyrical phrases, or melodies that were similar - here, we not only have one song with a rhythmic phrase very similar to the other song, we actually have TWO songs from the same era that have that very similar phrase to the third newer song! It begs the question - why didn't those two old songs already sue each other? Probably because in that era, people had the sense to realise....

.....EVERYTHING IS INFLUENCED BY WHAT HAS COME BEFORE IT.

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Reply #12 posted 02/26/16 7:43am

nd33

PS - I'm not condoning plagarism. If something is an obvious rip off, via melody or lyric, like that Sam Smith song was, that should be dealt with accordingly.

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Reply #13 posted 02/26/16 9:35am

Cinny

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nd33 said:

I'm guessing that they're suing over the rhythmic phrase "Up - town, funk-you-up; Uptown-funk-you-up" being very similar to their own "Funk - you, right-on-up; gonna-funk - you, right-on-up".

What's interesting about this, is that it's the exact same part of the song that Gap Band claimed over!

Up town funk you up

Funk you right on up

Oops up side your head

When peeps were going on about "Uptown Funk" ripping off "Oops", I was saying that "Funk You Up" is even closer!

Yeah, how many people really wrote "Up, town, funk you up"? I thought it was a reference rhythmically AND LYRICALLY (Hell-o!) to "Funk You Up" by Sequence.

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Reply #14 posted 02/26/16 9:40am

KCOOLMUZIQ

Mark Ronson gave credit to Sequence in a Rolling Stone interview. So they already knew where they stole the line "Funk U up" from. But they still never gave them writers credit which would have won them a Grammy & compensation. That's plain wrong!

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #15 posted 02/26/16 12:04pm

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One thing about Bruno and Ronson is Uptown Funk is clearly influenced by Roger Troutman and Zapp too yet they've never name checked Roger or Zapp when talking about the song. The guitar lick is very Rogeresque for example. I think these new school cats need to pay respect to those before them and stop biting their music. I mean I like Bruno but Roger, George C, Uncle Charlie, Prince et AL have more funk in their pinky finger than him.
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Reply #16 posted 02/26/16 2:44pm

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woogiebear said:

1)The Sequence did NOT get paid for "Funk You Up" when it originally come out. Sylvia Robinson got ALL that $$$!!!! 2)When Dr. Dre sampled it for "Keep Their Heads Ringing", They STILL didn't get paid for it!!!! 3)When Erykah Badu sampled it on Her "Worldwide Underground" CD, They STILL didn't get paid for it (even though Badu featured Angie Stone on the track)!!! Angie B became Angie Stone, because She wasn't making no Hip-Hop $$$!!!! This is some BOGUS ASS SH*T!!!! PLEASE STOP IT!!!

eek eek eek


Then all the surviving members of Sequence should've re-filed their lawsuit against the Sylvia Robinson estate. I think that's the only thing they can do. hmmm

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Reply #17 posted 02/26/16 5:27pm

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thetimefan said:

One thing about Bruno and Ronson is Uptown Funk is clearly influenced by Roger Troutman and Zapp too yet they've never name checked Roger or Zapp when talking about the song. The guitar lick is very Rogeresque for example. I think these new school cats need to pay respect to those before them and stop biting their music. I mean I like Bruno but Roger, George C, Uncle Charlie, Prince et AL have more funk in their pinky finger than him.

Yeah I remember the first time I heard Uptown Funk it made me think of a Roger & Zapp song.

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Reply #18 posted 02/26/16 5:38pm

Scorp

thetimefan said:

One thing about Bruno and Ronson is Uptown Funk is clearly influenced by Roger Troutman and Zapp too yet they've never name checked Roger or Zapp when talking about the song. The guitar lick is very Rogeresque for example. I think these new school cats need to pay respect to those before them and stop biting their music. I mean I like Bruno but Roger, George C, Uncle Charlie, Prince et AL have more funk in their pinky finger than him.



That's what the entire practice of sampling promoted when it blended in with the movement of the pop ascension the luminaries from all genres, from all cultural background were pushed out

Thats the only way it could work
[Edited 2/27/16 6:22am]
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Reply #19 posted 02/27/16 9:19am

Linn4days

woogiebear said:

1)The Sequence did NOT get paid for "Funk You Up" when it originally come out. Sylvia Robinson got ALL that $$$!!!! 2)When Dr. Dre sampled it for "Keep Their Heads Ringing", They STILL didn't get paid for it!!!! 3)When Erykah Badu sampled it on Her "Worldwide Underground" CD, They STILL didn't get paid for it (even though Badu featured Angie Stone on the track)!!! Angie B became Angie Stone, because She wasn't making no Hip-Hop $$$!!!! This is some BOGUS ASS SH*T!!!! PLEASE STOP IT!!!

eek eek eek

She can't get the latest one?

She has to... never seek a claim about this phrasing?

Who is to say that she did not get paid from the others...

I like Mr. Mars music, but... I can't just tell her to not seek anything because--she supposedly never did so in the past from other samples..

Some deals are "sealed" and settled early...

Maybe, the young black guys who may be are working with Ronson and Mars just did not educate them about their parent's favorite tracks.. lol lol lol No successful man is an island, and they just did not research, and ask for permission--before vibin' in the studio with them.

The song is a throwback to the 80s mostly black funk good-time club bands, without really paying homage... It morphs sayings and slick phrases of the time... Then, the song sounded good in its completion, they just released it without seeking the people who may be responsible.

[Edited 2/27/16 9:46am]

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Reply #20 posted 02/27/16 9:21am

Linn4days

MickyDolenz said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Like prince is..

What does this sound like? "Beautiful Strange"?

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Reply #21 posted 02/27/16 9:43am

Linn4days

nd33 said:

I'm guessing that they're suing over the rhythmic phrase "Up - town, funk-you-up; Uptown-funk-you-up" being very similar to their own "Funk - you, right-on-up; gonna-funk - you, right-on-up".

What's interesting about this, is that it's the exact same part of the song that Gap Band claimed over!

Up town funk you up

Funk you right on up

Oops up side your head

When peeps were going on about "Uptown Funk" ripping off "Oops", I was saying that "Funk You Up" is even closer!

To me, this highlights the ridiculousness of the Blurred Lines case, which didn't have any lyrical phrases, or melodies that were similar - here, we not only have one song with a rhythmic phrase very similar to the other song, we actually have TWO songs from the same era that have that very similar phrase to the third newer song! It begs the question - why didn't those two old songs already sue each other? Probably because in that era, people had the sense to realise....

.....EVERYTHING IS INFLUENCED BY WHAT HAS COME BEFORE IT.

I like Bruno, but she seems to have more of a claim than TGB...

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Reply #22 posted 02/27/16 1:25pm

woogiebear

TonyVanDam said:

woogiebear said:

1)The Sequence did NOT get paid for "Funk You Up" when it originally come out. Sylvia Robinson got ALL that $$$!!!! 2)When Dr. Dre sampled it for "Keep Their Heads Ringing", They STILL didn't get paid for it!!!! 3)When Erykah Badu sampled it on Her "Worldwide Underground" CD, They STILL didn't get paid for it (even though Badu featured Angie Stone on the track)!!! Angie B became Angie Stone, because She wasn't making no Hip-Hop $$$!!!! This is some BOGUS ASS SH*T!!!! PLEASE STOP IT!!!

eek eek eek


Then all the surviving members of Sequence should've re-filed their lawsuit against the Sylvia Robinson estate. I think that's the only thing they can do. hmmm

RIGHT!!!!!

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Reply #23 posted 02/27/16 6:57pm

hardwork

Jesus, when the fuck is Skyy going to sue these talentless motherfuckers?

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KCOOLMUZIQ

eek

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #25 posted 02/27/16 7:53pm

Scorp

hardwork said:

Jesus, when the fuck is Skyy going to sue these talentless motherfuckers?







I loooooved this jam

Winter of 1982, this was THE jan
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Reply #26 posted 02/27/16 10:53pm

nd33

hardwork said:

Jesus, when the fuck is Skyy going to sue these talentless motherfuckers?






I get what you're saying.....but that is just a two note strum, played over and over. That's like getting pissed off because someone else has the same first and last name as you - there will be MANY the same, don't waste your time. There is no melodic or lyric similarity. The chord being strummed is not even the same relative chord.

We can't condone lawsuits for things like that. That would be getting into crazy American litigious territory!
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Reply #27 posted 02/28/16 7:24am

hardwork

nd33 said:

hardwork said:

Jesus, when the fuck is Skyy going to sue these talentless motherfuckers?

I get what you're saying.....but that is just a two note strum, played over and over. That's like getting pissed off because someone else has the same first and last name as you - there will be MANY the same, don't waste your time. There is no melodic or lyric similarity. The chord being strummed is not even the same relative chord. We can't condone lawsuits for things like that. That would be getting into crazy American litigious territory!

The entire FEEL of that Skyy guitar lick is in the song - and it must be because Bruno Mars and Ronson have no feel of their own to offer. If the person with my first and last name tried to use the fact that we have the same name to insist they get to deposit my paycheck in their bank account, eat food out of my refrigerator, watch my TV and fuck my woman whenever they want to, then there's a problem, because they'd be passing themselves off AS me. And that's JUST what these weak cats are doing - passing themselves off as something they are not. They are doing that which George Clinton warned the world against - faking the funk. They ARE Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk. They are deliberately watering down the funk to gain mass appeal, presenting the SHELL of the funk as a fucking gimmick without presenting to the listener ANY of the INTERIOR ESSENCE of it - which is the thing that actually allows one to dance underwater and not get wet.

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Scorp

hardwork said:

nd33 said:

hardwork said: I get what you're saying.....but that is just a two note strum, played over and over. That's like getting pissed off because someone else has the same first and last name as you - there will be MANY the same, don't waste your time. There is no melodic or lyric similarity. The chord being strummed is not even the same relative chord. We can't condone lawsuits for things like that. That would be getting into crazy American litigious territory!

The entire FEEL of that Skyy guitar lick is in the song - and it must be because Bruno Mars and Ronson have no feel of their own to offer. If the person with my first and last name tried to use the fact that we have the same name to insist they get to deposit my paycheck in their bank account, eat food out of my refrigerator, watch my TV and fuck my woman whenever they want to, then there's a problem, because they'd be passing themselves off AS me. And that's JUST what these weak cats are doing - passing themselves off as something they are not. They are doing that which George Clinton warned the world against - faking the funk. They ARE Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk. They are deliberately watering down the funk to gain mass appeal, presenting the SHELL of the funk as a fucking gimmick without presenting to the listener ANY of the INTERIOR ESSENCE of it - which is the thing that actually allows one to dance underwater and not get wet.

B.K.A.

THE POP ASCENSION

if sampling wasn't allowed, the industry would have been over by 1990

once it became prolific where everyone from all racial backgrounds, from all genres started relying on it to build "their music"...the industry as we knew it was over....even gospel artists were hijacking music

and while all this was going on, the artists who were actual behind the music that was being sampled, their names weren't mentioned, they were pushed out and they didn't get the recognition either

this is why I watch the award shows now just to witness who is going to get the lifetime achievement award and then I clock out

but it's really not the fault of these artists of today.......I have nothing against Bruno Mars at all, he probably wants to be a really true artist

it's the system of the past 28 years that has produced this malaise and that's what needs to be discussed

for all this to work, real r&b had to be marginilized to make it seem like it was insignificant when it was most significant (creating the illusion), and reduced it to a category than the cultural expression that it really was, then systematically divide the array of music listeners representing various generations to make it easier to withhold the names of the people who were going to be sampled, and when that happened, it became a resevoir of past richness prime for everyone to exploit, and that became of the death of it

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Reply #29 posted 02/28/16 9:46am

nd33

hardwork said:

nd33 said:

hardwork said: I get what you're saying.....but that is just a two note strum, played over and over. That's like getting pissed off because someone else has the same first and last name as you - there will be MANY the same, don't waste your time. There is no melodic or lyric similarity. The chord being strummed is not even the same relative chord. We can't condone lawsuits for things like that. That would be getting into crazy American litigious territory!

The entire FEEL of that Skyy guitar lick is in the song - and it must be because Bruno Mars and Ronson have no feel of their own to offer. If the person with my first and last name tried to use the fact that we have the same name to insist they get to deposit my paycheck in their bank account, eat food out of my refrigerator, watch my TV and fuck my woman whenever they want to, then there's a problem, because they'd be passing themselves off AS me. And that's JUST what these weak cats are doing - passing themselves off as something they are not. They are doing that which George Clinton warned the world against - faking the funk. They ARE Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk. They are deliberately watering down the funk to gain mass appeal, presenting the SHELL of the funk as a fucking gimmick without presenting to the listener ANY of the INTERIOR ESSENCE of it - which is the thing that actually allows one to dance underwater and not get wet.


Hey, I don't like the song anymore than you, but if "feel" was cause for a lawsuit, music wouldn't happen, period.

Do you see the first band to do disco music suing everyone else that played a song approximately 135bpm with every second 8th note being an open hihat?

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