SeventeenDayze said:

mjscarousal said:

^ Although the industry had darlings, it seems rather cliquish now. Pop stars need a platform and the industry provids them that backing. When you don't have that, you have nothing. However, It appears the industry is only supporting certain acts over others. There is only a specific group of pop stars that get this backing and you can count them on one hand...why is that? Beyonce hasn't had a number one hit in 7 years but she is still given this platform. Adele has been out of the spotlight for 5 years but, comes back and instantly gets a number 1 hit. I think the masses wants variety and different acts despite what is often promoted. This is what is reflected when these type of successes occur. I think that is why Rihanna is taking a while to release her next album. None of the singles have went to number one so they are going back to the drawing board. People are tired of these overrated acts. There is a lot of shady things that goes on behind the scenes. When you look at these receipts it shows something else.. None of the acts of today will make the same impact or have a long lasting legacy as the artists before them.

I agree. I also think Rihanna is probably caught up in a "creative differences" type of dispute, I imagine, because once an artist starts to be more established they believe they can start calling more shots. Heck, for all we know she might be trying to get out of her contract, trying to start her own label (as Janelle Monae did) or perhaps she's trying to find a creative way to end her obviously orchestrated faux-relationship with up and coming rapper Travis Scott. LOL I look at pictures of those two and it's so obvious that this is a relationship set up by their teams to promote the lesser known of the two...what a scam! LOL!

You make great points. To be honest, I actually like Rihanna as far as her personality goes and she seems to geniunely want to grow as an artist. I am hoping for the best for her. This is the longest break she has taken so that is good thing. Its possible its probably due to creative differences because she expressed her music was not classic, gotta give the girl credit for at least being real, thats why I like her. She is not fake, self absorbed and conceited like Beyonce.

mjscarousal said:

SeventeenDayze said:

I agree. I also think Rihanna is probably caught up in a "creative differences" type of dispute, I imagine, because once an artist starts to be more established they believe they can start calling more shots. Heck, for all we know she might be trying to get out of her contract, trying to start her own label (as Janelle Monae did) or perhaps she's trying to find a creative way to end her obviously orchestrated faux-relationship with up and coming rapper Travis Scott. LOL I look at pictures of those two and it's so obvious that this is a relationship set up by their teams to promote the lesser known of the two...what a scam! LOL!

You make great points. To be honest, I actually like Rihanna as far as her personality goes and she seems to geniunely want to grow as an artist. I am hoping for the best for her. This is the longest break she has taken so that is good thing. Its possible its probably due to creative differences because she expressed her music was not classic, gotta give the girl credit for at least being real, thats why I like her. She is not fake, self absorbed and conceited like Beyonce.

Yeah I think Rihanna is probably trying to grow as an artist. She understands that the closer she gets to 30 she will have to rethink her approach to her music because there is always a constant flow of younger artists who are willing to be exploited for fame and will sign any contract in front of them to make sure they are famous a few minutes and then they will be tossed aside for the next sucker....yeah BeYAWNce is like just "blah" to me.

The whole Lou Pearlman- Nsync/Backstreet Boys - Boy Band Crap from around the same time period certainly didnt help matters either...

Scorp said:

When the pop ascension put a stranglehold on this industry, that was all she wrote And that became very apparent by 1990 when the act Milli Vanilli won those two grammy awards when it should have been clear those were not their vocals on those songs and that of studio singers from the r&b realm, which it became apparent that real authentic r&b was going to be exploited and destroyed [Edited 11/25/15 6:37am]

Ego101 said:

The whole Lou Pearlman- Nsync/Backstreet Boys - Boy Band Crap from around the same time period certainly didnt help matters either...

Scorp said:

When the pop ascension put a stranglehold on this industry, that was all she wrote And that became very apparent by 1990 when the act Milli Vanilli won those two grammy awards when it should have been clear those were not their vocals on those songs and that of studio singers from the r&b realm, which it became apparent that real authentic r&b was going to be exploited and destroyed [Edited 11/25/15 6:37am]

Spice Girls followed by Britney Spears did quite a bit of damage too.

Ego101 said:

The whole Lou Pearlman- Nsync/Backstreet Boys - Boy Band Crap from around the same time period certainly didnt help matters either...

Scorp said:

When the pop ascension put a stranglehold on this industry, that was all she wrote And that became very apparent by 1990 when the act Milli Vanilli won those two grammy awards when it should have been clear those were not their vocals on those songs and that of studio singers from the r&b realm, which it became apparent that real authentic r&b was going to be exploited and destroyed [Edited 11/25/15 6:37am]

Oh, I thought that Nsync was managed by a black dude who also "developed" New Kids on the Block. Am I mistaken here?

MichaelJackson5 said:

Ego101 said:

The whole Lou Pearlman- Nsync/Backstreet Boys - Boy Band Crap from around the same time period certainly didnt help matters either...

Spice Girls followed by Britney Spears did quite a bit of damage too.

Well, as fun as it would be to blame the Spice Girls, we have to look at the host of girl bands from the 80s that paved the way for the Spice Girls lol

http://uk.complex.com/music/2014/01/lou-pearlman-prison-interview

SeventeenDayze said:

Ego101 said:

The whole Lou Pearlman- Nsync/Backstreet Boys - Boy Band Crap from around the same time period certainly didnt help matters either...

Oh, I thought that Nsync was managed by a black dude who also "developed" New Kids on the Block. Am I mistaken here?

SeventeenDayze said:

Oh, I thought that Nsync was managed by a black dude who also "developed" New Kids on the Block. Am I mistaken here?

I don't know anything about N*Sync. But the New Kids was discovered by Maurice Starr who was the producer of New Edition's debut album and the head of the label NE was on Streetwise. They had a falling out over money and NE signed with MCA. Dick Scott was the manager of NE and he was fired with Maurice. Dick & Maurice were partners and Dick managed NKOTB adn Maurice produced their records. Dick managed several acts including James Ingram. Both Maurice & Dick are black. Marky Mark was originally a member of the New Kids, but he didn't want to sing, but rap. So he left before they signed with Maurice. Maurice made way more money on NKOTB than NE

there are unscrupulous types in just about any industry. In music (like others), there are some that try to work their way to the top of the pile through not so great means. Honest and trustworthy people can get trampled in the mix or trounced on in other ways. It's not always pretty.

Where there's money, there's sleaze. You can take that to the bank.

Music Industry is full of pleasure seekers so it may be more visibly corrupt/ decadent than some, but it's not like running a chemical plant.

This is a short clip from a documentary called Artifact