Thread started 09/13/15 5:28pmMrsFelicityCru mble |
Do all musical geniuses have messed up childhoods in some way? I won't patronise you by listing the examples
Discuss!
My answer - no-one has a perfect family. But yes, there's a strong link. |
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Reply #1 posted 09/16/15 4:25am
duccichucka |
MrsFelicityCrumble said:
I won't patronise you by listing the examples Discuss! My answer - no-one has a perfect family. But yes, there's a strong link.
That word (genius) has lost its true meaning, hasn't it? Genius, by definition, is very rare; and I'm not even sure there is a consensus of how to quantify it let alone qualify it. But today, it can mean some one/thing who is simply talented and creating original work, or an example of original, creative work. Some historians are now re-assessing Mozart and instead of classifying him as a genius, are discussing how he was ultimately just a really talented composer who worked very hard, and very diligently. If Mozart, who was the most talented musician ever produced, wasn't a genius, then I'm pretty sure that nobody on your list was gonna be one either!
Anyways, correlation does not equal causation, so I don't think there is a link at all. You don't need a "messed up childhood" in order for your genius to blossom. Think about it: given what we know about developmental psychology, it seems likely that a chaotic/traumatic environment will do more to hamper genius (or, personhood) than it will to nurture it.
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Reply #2 posted 09/16/15 8:34am
Cinny |
When you have a musical or creative mind, your imagination will ALWAYS make reality seem plain or disappointing in some way.
Also, lots of musicians are extra sensitive to their environment, which might not be "messed up" compared to other people who survive but never turn into artists. |
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Reply #3 posted 09/16/15 8:59am
Ego101 |
interesting points!
Cinny said:
When you have a musical or creative mind, your imagination will ALWAYS make reality seem plain or disappointing in some way.
Also, lots of musicians are extra sensitive to their environment, which might not be "messed up" compared to other people who survive but never turn into artists.
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Reply #4 posted 09/16/15 5:23pm
Se7en
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Just like all superheroes have at least one dead parent. Probably makes them try harder in life. |
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Reply #6 posted 09/18/15 4:18am
DIAMONDGEEZA |
Prince had a biography that looked at his childhood in chapter one'we also know Michael Jackson had a hard time of it with his bully of a dad but i would need more examples to even come close to saying "yes".It could result in deeper more meaningful songs possibly.It may make artists more subceptable to drug abuse.The beauty of life is we are all different.so i will give it a "maybe"and thats the ansswer i'm sticking 2. |
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Reply #7 posted 09/18/15 4:57am
NorthC |
James Brown had a pretty rough childhood, worse than Prince and Michael Jackson put together. So yeah, he surely falls in this category. Bob Dylan, on the other hand, had a pretty normal childhood until he left for New York around the age of 20. |
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Reply #8 posted 09/18/15 8:31am
nd33 |
Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss... |
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Reply #9 posted 09/18/15 1:24pm
duccichucka |
Cinny said:
When you have a musical or creative mind, your imagination will ALWAYS make reality seem plain or disappointing in some way.
Also, lots of musicians are extra sensitive to their environment, which might not be "messed up" compared to other people who survive but never turn into artists.
Hmm,
I have a different take on this. I am a musician and my imagination doesn't lead me to perceiving reality as being plain or disappointing; people are responsible for that particular take on reality.
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Reply #10 posted 09/19/15 7:46am
Cinny |
duccichucka said:
Cinny said:
When you have a musical or creative mind, your imagination will ALWAYS make reality seem plain or disappointing in some way.
Also, lots of musicians are extra sensitive to their environment, which might not be "messed up" compared to other people who survive but never turn into artists.
Hmm,
I have a different take on this. I am a musician and my imagination doesn't lead me to perceiving reality as being plain or disappointing; people are responsible for that particular take on reality.
True, the sensitivity to one's surroundings can also bring mind-blowing highs. I kinda contradicted myself there. I was more debunking about "messed up". |
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