Who cares about the charts? The money is made in concerts, and rock musicians are still dominating the list of highest grossing tours. That's because rock musicians are what people want to see in person. EDM, rap and hip hop are popular in homes and clubs but most people won't pay good money to hear someone playing a bunch of samples and artificial music in person or walking around on stage rapping. Last night I saw Billy Idol, the arena was packed and he's selling out nearly all his shows. When an almost-60-year-old can draw those kinds of crowds, it tells you how strong the demand for real rock musicians is these days.

Pokeno4Money said:

Who cares about the charts? The money is made in concerts, and rock musicians are still dominating the list of highest grossing tours. That's because rock musicians are what people want to see in person. EDM, rap and hip hop are popular in homes and clubs but most people won't pay good money to hear someone playing a bunch of samples and artificial music in person or walking around on stage rapping. Last night I saw Billy Idol, the arena was packed and he's selling out nearly all his shows. When an almost-60-year-old can draw those kinds of crowds, it tells you how strong the demand for real rock musicians is these days.

That is the truth.

Maybe the industry should scout around and sign some BANDS again!

Pokeno4Money said:

Who cares about the charts? The money is made in concerts, and rock musicians are still dominating the list of highest grossing tours. That's because rock musicians are what people want to see in person. EDM, rap and hip hop are popular in homes and clubs but most people won't pay good money to hear someone playing a bunch of samples and artificial music in person or walking around on stage rapping. Last night I saw Billy Idol, the arena was packed and he's selling out nearly all his shows. When an almost-60-year-old can draw those kinds of crowds, it tells you how strong the demand for real rock musicians is these days.

This is a strawman argument as in the only way to support the point you've made, you have
to create this position that EDM and rap (the music of hip hop) is just a "bunch of samples
and artificial music" and that is simply not the case.

JoeTyler said:

rock is dead on the charts because new bands suck dead monkey ass

a good rock band releases a killer single (or a couple) that boosts album sales

that's how it was done in the '60s, '70s, '80s and hell even in the '90s

Rock is not dead beacuse new bands suck dead monkey ass. There are just as many good
rock bands today as there were in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and even in the 90s. Your problem is
that rock is no longer the most popular genre of pop music, and consumers are looking else-
where to get their kicks. This means that new rock bands just as good as those in the 60s,
70s, 80s, and 90s will not get the same type of coverage that they could have if they existed
in the aforementioned decades.

duccichucka said:

Pokeno4Money said:

Who cares about the charts? The money is made in concerts, and rock musicians are still dominating the list of highest grossing tours. That's because rock musicians are what people want to see in person. EDM, rap and hip hop are popular in homes and clubs but most people won't pay good money to hear someone playing a bunch of samples and artificial music in person or walking around on stage rapping. Last night I saw Billy Idol, the arena was packed and he's selling out nearly all his shows. When an almost-60-year-old can draw those kinds of crowds, it tells you how strong the demand for real rock musicians is these days.

This is a strawman argument as in the only way to support the point you've made, you have
to create this position that EDM and rap (the music of hip hop) is just a "bunch of samples
and artificial music" and that is simply not the case.

In a live setting, that's all it is. DJs replaced bands. It *is* harder to find new bands because most clubs have a DJ spinning instead. Some turn into producers (Diplo, Skrillex).

Cinny said:

duccichucka said:

This is a strawman argument as in the only way to support the point you've made, you have
to create this position that EDM and rap (the music of hip hop) is just a "bunch of samples
and artificial music" and that is simply not the case.

In a live setting, that's all it is. DJs replaced bands. It *is* harder to find new bands because most clubs have a DJ spinning instead. Some turn into producers (Diplo, Skrillex).

DJs replaced bands because the people prefer the kind of music that doesn't require a band; and
"new bands" are not hard to find - they're everywhere. They're just not as popular as they used
to be because, again, people right now prefer the kind of music that doesn't require a band.

And none of this has anything to do with the quality of rap/EDM; there's good rap and bad rap
and so-so rap, just like there's good rock, bad rock, and so-so rock. This board needs to quit
with this argument that rap and EDM are inherently inferior art forms.