Pentacle said:

MattyJam said:

Pentacle said:

I'd agree that the surgery is a 'worthy' topic of discussion, as he has 'confronted' us with that himself, he put that out in the public arena.

Does it have anything to do with the music he created? Not really.

But refusing to speak about the surgery doesn't trivialize it. What does anybody care what you or I think about that?
Had I been a personal friend of MJ and never brought it up, then yes, I would be trivializing it. His friends, if he had any, should have stopped him and/or have had him committed for a while. Then he'd still be alive.

So MJ needed to be committed because he had too much plastic surgery? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? I guess we should lock up Cher and Renee Zellweger in the loony bin as well? [Edited 10/23/15 6:49am]

Yes, he was in need of a lot of quality time with a psychiatrist.

When Cher and Zellweger start denying they've had anything done and ride around in toy trains,

then yes, they should get a good talking to as well.

MichaelJackson5 said:

Free2BMe said:

I agree with most of what you said; however I believe that Michael is the Biological father of his three children. He said that it was HIS sperm cells that produced his children and I believe him. He could easily have said that he adopted these children. Debbie was Michael's Wife and she conceived Prince and Paris with Michael. Prince II aka Blanket mother was another woman. Until someone has PROOF to prove otherwise, I'm going to believe that Michael is the BIOLOGICAL father of His kids. Again, I agree with everything else that you said.

The marriage to Rowe was a financial arrangement cause MJ needed an uterus for the artificially inseminated eggs to incubate. Anyone with one working brain cell can see the marriage for what it really was. There was never any love between MJ and Debbie. All she was, was a living incubator to him and when her services were no longer needed they divorced. But some fans want this fairytale about a black man naturally turning white and fathering two consecutive kids who look completely white when odds of that were virtually impossible.

Why exactly are you here? You have said these things over and over and over and over again. We get it you hate Michael Jackson!! Why not go to a forum where you can bash MJ 24/7?

Have yall read or heard? His son goes on twitter and hinting that MJ may not be his biological father.

MichaelJackson5 said:

Scorp said:

for the past 10 years, really since all this started, but for the past 10 years, I've seen king of pop fans swear up and down that Michael Jackson fathered these 3 kids, Iv'e seen insults and profanity laced tirades directed towards anyone, everyone and their moma, all across the internet and abroad who stated the obvious about this situation, I've seen physical attacks posed towards a whole sea of people who have stated the obvious, comments filled with nothing but sheer hate about a situation and a presentation that was never real, it was all smoke, and me personally, I know I've been cursed out verbatim about this situation

Michael Jackson didn't father anyone of these 3 kids soon to be adults, not one, not the oldest, not the middle, and not the youngest, it's so overbearing and intense, even this now young man is tired of the shenanigans and the charade........even the fans who have stood over hand and foot trying to convince the world MJ fathered these kids know deep down that he didn't

for the life of me, out of all the things I've witnessed in my short existence, I have been stunned and downright flabbergasted that anyone would believed he fathered these 3 kids when none possessed any physical/genetic traits of MJ did (in his natural state)

so all these pictures and clips on youtube of fans trying to prove that he fathered them, they better go ahead and bring em on down because it's time

That's a good point. This young man openly tweeted that he has doubts Michael Jackson is his biological father and why shouldn't he? Only blind MJ stans believe those three kids have any Jackson DNA.

The truth is finally surfacing. And as great an entertainer as MJ was, he lied about almost everything since 1993..1988 if you include his biography. He wanted to be white, he wanted his children to be white too. He even bleached Prince's hair blonde to look more Aryan just like he bleached his own skin and had at least 10 nosejobs in his life.

I think now would be the perfect time for the Jackson family to come out and admit the autopsy "proving he suffered from vitiligo" was a fraud. Prince, Paris and Blanket (Bigi) should have a DNA test conducted to put this fiasco to rest once and for all.

Michael Jackson's brothers deserve the money from his estate more than these artifically created kids. I doubt Debbie Rowe was more than a surrogate, so she likely isn't even biologically related to those first two kids either.

His brothers deserve some of it because they helped Michael Jackson become a global star during the J5 era and working with him on post-Motown albums like Triumph and Destiny.

But I bet you anything the MJ fans new argument is going to be that despite not being the biological father, he was spiritually their father.

Oops, you've beat me to the punch

...as for the rest, MJ didn't flat out admitted that he wanted to be white, despite some questionable things he's done when he was alive.

GoldDolphin said:

MichaelJackson5 said:

Tape or no tape, you can see how dark the tip of MJ's nose is getting which likely points to a bloodflow problem and explains why he started wearing a prosthetic nose around this time.

Besides, what the heck was even wrong with his nose during the Thriller Era? Wasn't it already narrow and straight?

I hate discussing Michael's surgery, because it has nothing to do with his art or as a human being, but I think that the surgeries he continued to have, is due to him not being able to breathe properly. There was some issues with the nose and I have a friend, who actually got her nosejob two years ago ( and I kid you not, she has the same MJ/Janet nose) and she has problem breathing, and she'll have to go back and do some new surgery on it soon....

Unfortunately, his surgeries has haunt him for life and into his grave

Arnold Klein has died aged 70.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3286236/Michael-Jackson-s-longtime-doctor-Arnold-Klein-rumored-biological-father-pop-singer-s-son-Prince-dies.html

QueenofPurplePalace said:

When Michael says "With 7 inches in" in Blood on the Dance Floor he's not talking about a knife is he? Oh God....BLEACH BLEACH DAMMIT

A lot of people's minds went into the gutter on that one

..but I liked the video, though.

MichaelJackson5 said:

Scorp said:

for the past 10 years, really since all this started, but for the past 10 years, I've seen king of pop fans swear up and down that Michael Jackson fathered these 3 kids, Iv'e seen insults and profanity laced tirades directed towards anyone, everyone and their moma, all across the internet and abroad who stated the obvious about this situation, I've seen physical attacks posed towards a whole sea of people who have stated the obvious, comments filled with nothing but sheer hate about a situation and a presentation that was never real, it was all smoke, and me personally, I know I've been cursed out verbatim about this situation

Michael Jackson didn't father anyone of these 3 kids soon to be adults, not one, not the oldest, not the middle, and not the youngest, it's so overbearing and intense, even this now young man is tired of the shenanigans and the charade........even the fans who have stood over hand and foot trying to convince the world MJ fathered these kids know deep down that he didn't

for the life of me, out of all the things I've witnessed in my short existence, I have been stunned and downright flabbergasted that anyone would believed he fathered these 3 kids when none possessed any physical/genetic traits of MJ did (in his natural state)

so all these pictures and clips on youtube of fans trying to prove that he fathered them, they better go ahead and bring em on down because it's time

That's a good point. This young man openly tweeted that he has doubts Michael Jackson is his biological father and why shouldn't he? Only blind MJ stans believe those three kids have any Jackson DNA.

The truth is finally surfacing. And as great an entertainer as MJ was, he lied about almost everything since 1993..1988 if you include his biography. He wanted to be white, he wanted his children to be white too. He even bleached Prince's hair blonde to look more Aryan just like he bleached his own skin and had at least 10 nosejobs in his life.

I think now would be the perfect time for the Jackson family to come out and admit the autopsy "proving he suffered from vitiligo" was a fraud. Prince, Paris and Blanket (Bigi) should have a DNA test conducted to put this fiasco to rest once and for all.

Michael Jackson's brothers deserve the money from his estate more than these artifically created kids. I doubt Debbie Rowe was more than a surrogate, so she likely isn't even biologically related to those first two kids either.

His brothers deserve some of it because they helped Michael Jackson become a global star during the J5 era and working with him on post-Motown albums like Triumph and Destiny.

But I bet you anything the MJ fans new argument is going to be that despite not being the biological father, he was spiritually their father.

So, when someone has a child who isn't theirs biologically, that non biological child doesn't deserve to be taken care of when their parent dies? Put the kids back in the orphan home guys, mummy's dead, and they were never really family! That's wicked and cruel.

I remember that was the big theory that came around when Katherine was kidnapped. Rumours that the family were pissed that the 'non biological children of Michael Jackson were getting his money'. I sincerly would hope that Michael's brothers and sisters wouldn't treat children that way. I don't believe they are that cruel and desperate for his cash that they'd hurt three innocent children. Michael raised those children, they were his children, biologically or not. Love it or loathe it, whether they are black or white.You can't just ditch the kids, they are his children, so people who dislike it... it's not going to change. They aren't suddenly going to be stripped of Jackson and dumped on the sidewalk.

PS) The Jacksons get royalty's for their work, don't they? You're acting like Michael owed them debts.

MattyJam said:

Pentacle said:

I'd agree that the surgery is a 'worthy' topic of discussion, as he has 'confronted' us with that himself, he put that out in the public arena.

Does it have anything to do with the music he created? Not really.

But refusing to speak about the surgery doesn't trivialize it. What does anybody care what you or I think about that?
Had I been a personal friend of MJ and never brought it up, then yes, I would be trivializing it. His friends, if he had any, should have stopped him and/or have had him committed for a while. Then he'd still be alive.

So MJ needed to be committed because he had too much plastic surgery? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? I guess we should lock up Cher and Renee Zellweger in the loony bin as well? [Edited 10/23/15 6:49am]

Being commited isn't being thrown in a padded cell tied up. It's not a loony bin! People who need help for psychological disorders or any kind of mental health issue are not loonys. Mental is to describe the location of the problem, not the problem itself.

I don't know about the word commited, but Michael should have gone some place to talk about the deep pain he had within himself. It's cruel that he was allowed to keep getting invovled with these doctors who simply took advantage of his plagues, be it his insomnia or his insecurities. He needed a doctor who wanted the best for him. But like Lisa Marie said when you have that much power I guess you can get whatever you want, so he might not have took notice of genuine care.

Have you seen Now, Voyager with Bette Davis? Maybe an open clinic like that would have helped him very much. Liz Taylor went to Betty Ford, there is no shame in seeking help, no shame at all, whether it's mental health or addiction. I think he would have gained more from letting down his guard and trying to seek help that way. He tried with spiritual healers and Rabbis, but that didn't do much for him at all, and most sold him out, he needed someone who understood different types of behaviours. Someone who was professional in the field of mental health and someone who wasn't famous really.

And he should have been put in a clinic for his insomnia, no doubt about it what so ever. He's dead! There's the proof that he needed some kind of help. It's so unfortunate, I feel that he suffered greatly and the roads the went down just lead to more pain for him, and it's sad. He didn't need to die the way he did.

Lisa Marie did not give a damn about him either. People are REALLY twisting Prince words. He gave a mature response. Michael was a father of the children period. Who the hell cares about paternity? It won't change that fact.

But MJ ALWAYS said he was their biological father..I never understood why MJ didn't leave them in Janet's custody. She would have made a great Mother to them..

OfftheWall said:

MichaelJackson5 said:

That's a good point. This young man openly tweeted that he has doubts Michael Jackson is his biological father and why shouldn't he? Only blind MJ stans believe those three kids have any Jackson DNA.

The truth is finally surfacing. And as great an entertainer as MJ was, he lied about almost everything since 1993..1988 if you include his biography. He wanted to be white, he wanted his children to be white too. He even bleached Prince's hair blonde to look more Aryan just like he bleached his own skin and had at least 10 nosejobs in his life.

I think now would be the perfect time for the Jackson family to come out and admit the autopsy "proving he suffered from vitiligo" was a fraud. Prince, Paris and Blanket (Bigi) should have a DNA test conducted to put this fiasco to rest once and for all.

Michael Jackson's brothers deserve the money from his estate more than these artifically created kids. I doubt Debbie Rowe was more than a surrogate, so she likely isn't even biologically related to those first two kids either.

His brothers deserve some of it because they helped Michael Jackson become a global star during the J5 era and working with him on post-Motown albums like Triumph and Destiny.

But I bet you anything the MJ fans new argument is going to be that despite not being the biological father, he was spiritually their father.

So, when someone has a child who isn't theirs biologically, that non biological child doesn't deserve to be taken care of when their parent dies? Put the kids back in the orphan home guys, mummy's dead, and they were never really family! That's wicked and cruel.

I remember that was the big theory that came around when Katherine was kidnapped. Rumours that the family were pissed that the 'non biological children of Michael Jackson were getting his money'. I sincerly would hope that Michael's brothers and sisters wouldn't treat children that way. I don't believe they are that cruel and desperate for his cash that they'd hurt three innocent children. Michael raised those children, they were his children, biologically or not. Love it or loathe it, whether they are black or white.You can't just ditch the kids, they are his children, so people who dislike it... it's not going to change. They aren't suddenly going to be stripped of Jackson and dumped on the sidewalk.

PS) The Jacksons get royalty's for their work, don't they? You're acting like Michael owed them debts.

Nobody's advocating for these kids to be kicked to the curb. But in all honesty, they deserve to know who their real parents are like most adopted children usually do.

They never asked to be a part of this circus called MJ's life.

Their race shouldn't matter and for any other celebrity, it wouldn't be an issue. But when you have a black man who displayed a history of self-hatred and was widely believed to use every surgical technique to remove his heritage claim to have fathered two white kids, it emphasizes just how much he hated his original racial identity.

It is unfortunate MJ didn't have real kids. They could have continued his legacy as entertainers and turned Pop music around. But we'll never know what real MJ offsprings could have achieved.

Sure, PPB are his kids because he loved and nurtured them and they saw him as a father figure. But MJ seemed to always do things the weird way that raised eyebrows and invited tabloid speculation. And for a man that claimed to hate tabloids, he has done a lot in the past 28-29 years that makes for the perfect tabloid headlines.

I hope the Jackson family treat those kids like they were blood relatives. I also hope that they come out and admit that the autopsy they paid for which claims he had vitiligo was a fraud. Only MJ fans believe it to be true.

Let's get to the truth of the Michael Jackson saga so this kind of thing doesn't happen to another self-hating minority ever again.

Because whether his fans want to admit it or not, Michael Jackson was the biggest hater of Michael Jackson. He even said how disgusted he was when he saw the man in the mirror. If that's not self-hatred, I don't know what is.

OfftheWall said:

Arnold Klein has died aged 70.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3286236/Michael-Jackson-s-longtime-doctor-Arnold-Klein-rumored-biological-father-pop-singer-s-son-Prince-dies.html

Well, on the bright side, Dr. Klein can rest in peace knowing he left behind two beautiful kids that will have more money than 90% of Americans.

Quite a coincidence he dies just as the twitter fiasco hits all the news outlets. But having been an MJ fan for over 30 years, nothing surprises me anymore.

mjscarousal said:

MichaelJackson5 said:

OfftheWall said:

MattyJam said:

Pentacle said: So MJ needed to be committed because he had too much plastic surgery? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? I guess we should lock up Cher and Renee Zellweger in the loony bin as well? [Edited 10/23/15 6:49am]

Being commited isn't being thrown in a padded cell tied up. It's not a loony bin! People who need help for psychological disorders or any kind of mental health issue are not loonys. Mental is to describe the location of the problem, not the problem itself.

I don't know about the word commited, but Michael should have gone some place to talk about the deep pain he had within himself. It's cruel that he was allowed to keep getting invovled with these doctors who simply took advantage of his plagues, be it his insomnia or his insecurities. He needed a doctor who wanted the best for him. But like Lisa Marie said when you have that much power I guess you can get whatever you want, so he might not have took notice of genuine care.

Have you seen Now, Voyager with Bette Davis? Maybe an open clinic like that would have helped him very much. Liz Taylor went to Betty Ford, there is no shame in seeking help, no shame at all, whether it's mental health or addiction. I think he would have gained more from letting down his guard and trying to seek help that way. He tried with spiritual healers and Rabbis, but that didn't do much for him at all, and most sold him out, he needed someone who understood different types of behaviours. Someone who was professional in the field of mental health and someone who wasn't famous really.

And he should have been put in a clinic for his insomnia, no doubt about it what so ever. He's dead! There's the proof that he needed some kind of help. It's so unfortunate, I feel that he suffered greatly and the roads the went down just lead to more pain for him, and it's sad. He didn't need to die the way he did.

You made really good points. All he ever had to do was admit he had a problem and the general public in America would have accepted it because of their fond memories of him as a child leading to his rise to the top of the entertainment field with Thriller.

Had he been honest with Oprah back in that 1993 interview, he would have been set free from the lies. He could have worked with therapists to determine why he hated himself so much. He could have allowed the melanin to naturally return to his body.

In addition, he should have determined the root cause of his crippling reliance on young children as the basis for his "happiness". He was no pedophile, but his unorthodox sleeping arrangement with kids was going to bring about allegations from opportunists sooner or later.

He'd still be alive today if he just learned to accept himself, moved beyond his perpetual childhood state. Maybe he could have even married a woman and create beautiful children the natural way.

MichaelJackson5 said:

I also hope that they come out and admit that the autopsy they paid for which claims he had vitiligo was a fraud. Only MJ fans believe it to be true.

Wow! And another fool, who makes up his own shit, to tell his stories. Are you Scorps other alias? The autopsy report, that is available, is the official california state mandated autopsy. That one has nothing to do with the private autospy that happened because the Jacksons were suspicious. So really, nice try, but you're wrong, his signs of vitiligo are mentioned in the official autopsy report done by the L.A. coroner. As for the rest of your drivel, just words, assumptions, interpretations and nothing else. No shred of prove for it being anything more than just an opinion.

Scorp said:

And the thing is We ain't seen nothing yet As freddie krueger said in part V The party's started [Edited 10/23/15 12:24pm]

Yep. This isn't going to be an easy time for many of his more zealous fans that have believed and supported the false narrative. If Paris starts questioning her origins next, the whole house of cards could come crumbling down.

MichaelJackson5 said:

You made really good points. All he ever had to do was admit he had a problem and the general public in America would have accepted it because of their fond memories of him as a child leading to his rise to the top of the entertainment field with Thriller.

Why?? Because you say so?? Would you tell any bum you meet on the street that you have a problem?? Do you tell anyone you know that you are so obsessed and pathetic that you have to post under a celebritiy's name to trash him on a music forum, 6 years after he died? Is MJ not entitled to privacy, just because he's a singer?? Fuck you for even thinking, that he has to disclose an, alleged, problem to the world.

MichaelJackson5 said:

Scorp said:

And the thing is We ain't seen nothing yet As freddie krueger said in part V The party's started [Edited 10/23/15 12:24pm]

Yep. This isn't going to be an easy time for many of his more zealous fans that have believed and supported the false narrative. If Paris starts questioning her origins next, the whole house of cards could come crumbling down.

Wow. And now you even quote yourself? Pathetic.

Come on, if Michael bleached his skin to the point where he was translucent, he would have probably died 20 years ago from chemical inhalation and burns, his health would have simply crumbled to pieces. No way could he have gone from his natural skin to snow white. Who in the world has gone that white through bleach? Especially 25 years ago?

If the family bought a fake autopsy, then why didn't they fake some other stuff on there to save face for Michael and the family again? Why would they want the world to know the details of his personal business, from his hair, to his medicine intake, they even reported on his tattooed make up and what not. Come on. And the tattoed eyeliner, brows is another clue to Vitiligo... the pigment in the hair goes too by the way.

Vybz Cartel and other people who are open with their bleaching go an ashy grey look, there's a dull undertone to the skin, they never look naturally lighter skinned or white skinned. Michael had no pigment what so ever, that's what made his skin like milk, he didn't go a white persons colour, he went white - the actual colour.

Honestly, Michael would have saved alot of stress if he came out and said he had vitiligo and did a photoshoot instead of covering it up, but this was 30 years ago. Now diversity is cool and in, back then Michael was still breaking new ground. Maybe he liked the mystery back then, but I don't think he was naive to think he could bleach his skin and make his nose thinner and suddenly make the world believe he was a Puetro Rican guy... the world had known of him since 1969 for crying out loud. He was a black man on the cover of Thriller. I know why theres doubt, because he went from brown - light skin - white. The middle part doesn't make sense with vitiligo, but again, it's all in the make up. And he wore it... alot. Michael used make up ALOT. Like to the point of it coming off on his clothing. It wasn't just blush and lipstick, he had foundations, concealers, contouring... it was professional make up.

Michael had vitiligo, there's no doubt about it. You can see his natural brown patches all over his body in They Don't Care About Us. His hands were still brown in Black or White... and if he was bleaching surely, the hands would take to it quite easily, like people who tan... their hands go brown more than any other part of the body. Anyway, you can't win as Michael sung... the autopsy proved it, but it's now a 'lie'. I sincerly doubt with a death investigation as big and controvrsial as Michael's that they would allow the autopsy to be bought. Michael's health meant big bucks.

[Edited 10/23/15 13:03pm]

PatrickS77 said:

MichaelJackson5 said:

I also hope that they come out and admit that the autopsy they paid for which claims he had vitiligo was a fraud. Only MJ fans believe it to be true.

Wow! And another fool, who makes up his own shit, to tell his stories. Are you Scorps other alias? The autopsy report, that is available, is the official california state mandated autopsy. That one has nothing to do with the private autospy that happened because the Jacksons were suspicious. So really, nice try, but you're wrong, his signs of vitiligo are mentioned in the official autopsy report done by the L.A. coroner. As for the rest of your drivel, just words, assumptions, interpretations and nothing else. No shred of prove for it being anything more than just an opinion.

Vitiligo doesn't attack the skin color like what MJ went through. He went from very dark to about 20 shades lighter during the Bad Era.

MJ, during Victory Tour in 1984:

His skin was lighter evenly all over his body. If he had blotches, he wouldn't have dared pose in the Come Together video like this:

Three years later, this is his new appearance with Dangerous:

Does this look like somebody who's traumatized by a skin disorder?

1993 with Eddie Murphy in whatzupwitu video:

MJ looks even whiter, a stark contrast to even 1988-89.

1995 with LMP for You Are Not Alone:

Porcelain white Michael Jackson. MJ just kept turning whiter and whiter. That's not the effects of vitiligo.

And looking at how small his nose is by 1995, even if he had vitiligo, he liked having it. He looked nothing like the man back in 1984.

MichaelJackson5 said:

OfftheWall said:

Arnold Klein has died aged 70.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3286236/Michael-Jackson-s-longtime-doctor-Arnold-Klein-rumored-biological-father-pop-singer-s-son-Prince-dies.html

Well, on the bright side, Dr. Klein can rest in peace knowing he left behind two beautiful kids that will have more money than 90% of Americans.

Quite a coincidence he dies just as the twitter fiasco hits all the news outlets. But having been an MJ fan for over 30 years, nothing surprises me anymore.

Your not a fan, psycho.

MichaelJackson5 said:

PatrickS77 said:

Wow! And another fool, who makes up his own shit, to tell his stories. Are you Scorps other alias? The autopsy report, that is available, is the official california state mandated autopsy. That one has nothing to do with the private autospy that happened because the Jacksons were suspicious. So really, nice try, but you're wrong, his signs of vitiligo are mentioned in the official autopsy report done by the L.A. coroner. As for the rest of your drivel, just words, assumptions, interpretations and nothing else. No shred of prove for it being anything more than just an opinion.

Vitiligo doesn't attack the skin color like what MJ went through. He went from very dark to about 20 shades lighter during the Bad Era.

MJ, during Victory Tour in 1984:

His skin was lighter evenly all over his body. If he had blotches, he wouldn't have dared pose in the Come Together video like this:

Three years later, this is his new appearance with Dangerous:

Does this look like somebody who's traumatized by a skin disorder?

1993 with Eddie Murphy in whatzupwitu video:

MJ looks even whiter, a stark contrast to even 1988-89.

1995 with LMP for You Are Not Alone:

Porcelain white Michael Jackson. MJ just kept turning whiter and whiter. That's not the effects of vitiligo.

And looking at how small his nose is by 1995, even if he had vitiligo, he liked having it. He looked nothing like the man back in 1984.

Can you take your bullshit some place out? Your not a MJ fan so why are you here?

PatrickS77 said:

MichaelJackson5 said:

You made really good points. All he ever had to do was admit he had a problem and the general public in America would have accepted it because of their fond memories of him as a child leading to his rise to the top of the entertainment field with Thriller.

Why?? Because you say so?? Would you tell any bum you meet on the street that you have a problem?? Do you tell anyone you know that you are so obsessed and pathetic that you have to post under a celebritiy's name to trash him on a music forum, 6 years after he died? Is MJ not entitled to privacy, just because he's a singer?? Fuck you for even thinking, that he has to disclose an, alleged, problem to the world.

Michael Jackson had a right to do anything he wanted with his life. But as a celebrity, and a huge celebrity, addressing the situation would have been better than lying about a lost childhood and a bogus skin disorder.

The only reason he had the interview with Oprah was because most Americans were tired of his ever-changing face and his Dangerous album was hovering in the 150th position on the Billboard 200 Album charts after just one year of it's release.

If Dangerous was still No.1 on the album charts and trending to sell over 15 million units in America, do you really believe he'd have bothered "opening up" about what was happening to Oprah Winfrey? And if he's going to "open up" then it makes sense to tell the truth instead of a bunch of lies, right?

Lies that have only contradicted themselves such as his first nosejob. Was it because he broke it during a rehearsal in 1979 or because he didn't want to look like his father or was it all the teasing he received from his brothers?

Scorp said:

mjscarousal said:

Lisa Marie did not give a damn about him either. People are REALLY twisting Prince words. He gave a mature response. Michael was a father of the children period. Who the hell cares about paternity? It won't change that fact.

Who the hell cares about paternity? Lollllll Apparently the fans do spending the laat 6 years posting distorted doctored up pics trying to prove their case, everyone else who see the facts for what they are dont

Scorp I know you are not this obtuse? Seriously ya'll look like fools. The boy did not say that MJ was not his biological father.

mjscarousal said: