JoeTyler said:

MrsFelicityCrumble said:

So quaint that disco was considered 'manufactured crap' back in the day

that doesn't mean it killed rock

disco certainly didn't kill rock

No, of course not JoeTyler - I was just pondering aloud. I love both disco and rock!

Rock hit a critical mass in the Eighties, tide started to turn in the 90s IMO

728huey said:

lastdecember said:

The problem is the LABEL, not record label the labels we put on. Don Henley has some new music, in the 90's that would be straight radio material to top 40, now its considered country music station stuff. There is no freedom at radio to THINK and do what you want, play a B side, play a 12" mix, play an old song on a TOP 40 station, the same thing with Vh1 and MTV, why do their have to be "classic" stations for the older fans, when i was growing up I sat through new videos and old videos from a decade prior and thats how I grew a knowledge and wide pallet for music.

As for america not being ROCK, i disagree, maybe not on the radio, but everytime a metal band like an alter bridge or Five Finger Death Punch or Sixx A.M put out an album the shit debuts number one or close to it, the fans exist, and the album sales still show it, obviously not but old time standards, but I would say now with the exception of Taylor swift, Rock bands sell more than Rap, or RB or even pop and dance artists that have hit singles.

I would add that it's an industry problem. It's not just labels; it's radio, MTV, VH1, etc. The problem with rock groups is that they can't easily be marketed to specific groups of people with disposable income to spend like they could in the past (i.e, 13-34 year old females). Because the music industy has abandoned developing artists in the pursuit of making a quick buck, most rock groups get very little exposure from mainstream music outlets.The only rock group currently getting any real mainstream exposure right now is Fall Out Boy, yet if you look at the Billboard 200 album chart the number one album in the country is by Disturbed, and the humber 8 album is by the metal band Ghost. Nevertheless, neither band would get any airplay on radio or TV.

^THIS.

And what happened in 2011 to Arcade Fire after winning the Grammy is a big case in point. Ten years before that event, a band like Arcade Fire would have made it big on radio and the various video music channels, and everybody would know their name. In the 2000's and 2010's they became an underground band (one of many from Canada that are quite good) who just happened to get noticed enough to win and be nominated for a Grammy, and to prompt the question the next morning 'Who is Arcade Fire?' mostly because radio has stopped playing bands like them to focus on pop (all thanks due to what this 1996 law caused.)

The only thing I'll disagree with is their not having any TV airplay; they do get that, but on late night talk shows that most teens and young people probably don't or can't watch. At least England has Jools Holland and his show that does showcase rock bands and adult 'pop' stars.

Sometimes I wonder if new versions of The Midnight Special, In Concert, and Don Kirchner's Rock Concert could ever get on TV again, but the likelyhood is if they ever did, The Big Three music conglomerates would just stuff all of the popstars on it and nothing else but them would be heard. Nothing like The Old Grey Whistle Test or The Tube would ever be on TV these days on either side of the pond, and not like it was with a multitude of artists instead of just pop stars.