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Reply #30 posted 09/05/15 9:43am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Lol I remember dude won best rapper over Kendrick Lamar. Ha!

Well can Kendrick Lamar dance like that?
Seriously can he?
I'm only familiar with Lamar by reputation - never seen any videos. biggrin
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Reply #31 posted 09/05/15 10:17am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Lol I remember dude won best rapper over Kendrick Lamar. Ha!

It was Best Rap Album.

Same difference, his album damn sure wasn't better than Good Kid, M.A.A.D City.

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Reply #32 posted 09/05/15 10:34am

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If Kendrick wasn't nominated it might not have been so glaring.

Drake was funny though when he got miffed when Macklemore apologized to Kendrick and NOT the rest of the nominees. Was he justified?

With all the controversy over Drake not wrtiting his own raps yet I think Macklemore does, was he justified?

Many people today are annoyed that Meek Mill even brought up the issue. I thought authenticity was the be-all-end-all in rap. I guess I was wrong.

Drake made a reply diss to Meek Mill's diss that ended the whole discussion. What people seem to leave out (oops, I'm sorry, don't care about) is the fact that of course Drake put out a better diss record; he got his writers together and THEY came up with it.

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Reply #33 posted 09/05/15 4:39pm

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If Kendrick wasn't nominated it might not have been so glaring.


Drake was funny though when he got miffed when Macklemore apologized to Kendrick and NOT the rest of the nominees. Was he justified?


With all the controversy over Drake not wrtiting his own raps yet I think Macklemore does, was he justified?


Many people today are annoyed that Meek Mill even brought up the issue. I thought authenticity was the be-all-end-all in rap. I guess I was wrong.


Drake made a reply diss to Meek Mill's diss that ended the whole discussion. What people seem to leave out (oops, I'm sorry, don't care about) is the fact that of course Drake put out a better diss record; he got his writers together and THEY came up with it.

Drake's disses weren't evwn anything special, especially "Charged Up". Social media dealt more damage to Meek than both of Drake's disses combined but the dude [Meek] caught feelings for no reason and at the wrong person so naturally, Drake had to snap back. The odds were already stacked against Meek seeing as how Drake is much more popular than him and that's pretty much what decides the victor in this sort of thing nowadays.

As for writing, there's a difference between having a group of people in the same room as you to bounce ideas and seek inspiration from and having one or more of those people write your verses for you. Drake does the former and until further notice, the only exception is his feature on Meek's album which someone else wrote. It's fishy that he would have another party write him a feature but that one moment doesn't take away from Drake's entire body of work. The guy still plays a big role in the creative process of his music.

With that being said, when Drake was bitching and whining about how Mack didn't apologize to all the nominees, he should have remembered that just a year prior he took home the rap Grammy with an R&B album. The only person Mack needed to apologize to was Kendrick and he way he did it was fake as hell and even then, talk is cheap. He could have easily handed his Grammy to Kendrick if he really felt the way he did but he didn't and that rubs me the wrong way. Even Kanye has done that in the past yet Macklemore couldn't be bothered to give away one award he himself claimed to not deserve out of the many he won that night? Fuck that dude.
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Reply #34 posted 09/05/15 5:01pm

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MotownSubdivision said:

CynicKill said:

If Kendrick wasn't nominated it might not have been so glaring.

Drake was funny though when he got miffed when Macklemore apologized to Kendrick and NOT the rest of the nominees. Was he justified?

With all the controversy over Drake not wrtiting his own raps yet I think Macklemore does, was he justified?

Many people today are annoyed that Meek Mill even brought up the issue. I thought authenticity was the be-all-end-all in rap. I guess I was wrong.

Drake made a reply diss to Meek Mill's diss that ended the whole discussion. What people seem to leave out (oops, I'm sorry, don't care about) is the fact that of course Drake put out a better diss record; he got his writers together and THEY came up with it.

Drake's disses weren't evwn anything special, especially "Charged Up". Social media dealt more damage to Meek than both of Drake's disses combined but the dude [Meek] caught feelings for no reason and at the wrong person so naturally, Drake had to snap back. The odds were already stacked against Meek seeing as how Drake is much more popular than him and that's pretty much what decides the victor in this sort of thing nowadays. As for writing, there's a difference between having a group of people in the same room as you to bounce ideas and seek inspiration from and having one or more of those people write your verses for you. Drake does the former and until further notice, the only exception is his feature on Meek's album which someone else wrote. It's fishy that he would have another party write him a feature but that one moment doesn't take away from Drake's entire body of work. The guy still plays a big role in the creative process of his music. With that being said, when Drake was bitching and whining about how Mack didn't apologize to all the nominees, he should have remembered that just a year prior he took home the rap Grammy with an R&B album. The only person Mack needed to apologize to was Kendrick and he way he did it was fake as hell and even then, talk is cheap. He could have easily handed his Grammy to Kendrick if he really felt the way he did but he didn't and that rubs me the wrong way. Even Kanye has done that in the past yet Macklemore couldn't be bothered to give away one award he himself claimed to not deserve out of the many he won that night? Fuck that dude.

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But are you sure he didn't offer it to Kendrick and Kendrick didn't accept it?

BTW didn't Drake beat NAS for that award?

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Reply #35 posted 09/05/15 5:42pm

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Who knows for sure? I have no reason to believe he did otherwise he would have posted it on IG like he did his "apology".

Yep, Drake won over Nas, Lupe Fiasco, The Roots, Rick Ross, and 2 Chainz. You might scoff at me mentioning 2 Chainz and Ross but at least they had legit rap albums and not an R&B album with rapping like "Take Care".
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Reply #36 posted 09/05/15 6:08pm

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I scoff not.

The only reason I singled out NAS is because, well, it's NAS. It was like that years Kendrick moment.

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Reply #37 posted 09/06/15 1:15pm

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Exactly. Kendrick got robbed last year plain and simple. The snub isn't Macklemore's fault but he doesn't come off as genuine by apologizing to Kendrick online for the world to see as opposed to doing so personally and on top of that (to my knowledge) not giving Kendrick the award Mack said Kendrick deserved more than himself.

The dude makes poppy rap songs; if Iggy Azalea is today's Vanilla Ice then Macklemore is today's MC Hammer. The only difference is while Hammer was an industry creation, Mack has been on the grind for years before striking it rich with "Thrift Shop"; it's real easy to forget that with the crap he makes though. There's a market out there for hip pop but it should stay in its own lane instead of cutting into the one for authentic hip hop/ rap.
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Reply #38 posted 09/06/15 1:56pm

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Yeah I agree goofy pop at its most serviceable. But then I hear a song like this pre-Thrift Shop jam and I realize there's something there. Or maybe it's the voice. I sincerely think he has one of the better rap "voices" out there. It sounds good. That might be the secret weapon of Macklemore:

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Reply #39 posted 09/06/15 4:43pm

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MackleBore is more like it.

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