Thread started 08/13/15 1:26pmlezama |
Janelle Monae / Wondaland : Hell U talmbout Change it one more time.. |
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Reply #1 posted 08/13/15 2:08pm
Reply #2 posted 08/13/15 2:10pm
purplepolitici an |
Say his name! For all time I am with you, you are with me. |
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Reply #3 posted 08/14/15 8:01am
mjscarousal |
OMG! How did I miss this! OUTSTANDING!!! Yes this is what I'm talking about Janelle! |
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Reply #4 posted 08/14/15 8:32am
NaughtyKitty |
Whoops I missed this thread! Didnt mean to create another one on here. I am LOVIN this tho and my respect for Janelle went up even more! This song is intense and passionate |
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Reply #5 posted 08/14/15 9:57am
deebee |
I like the music and the hook, which are powerful (and thankfully veer away from the music-by-numbers turn of Yoga into something more interesting and soulful). And I applaud the intention of showing solidarity with those killed and others seeking to oppose that in the present day. I thought she might have some kind of reflections or commentary to offer lyrically, though. There's nothing here beyond the call to 'say his/her name'.
It's odd, because she can often be very eloquent, especially when it's on a more personal kind of politics. I always liked the heartfelt rap in Q.U.E.E.N., and it was a moment I remember from her concert last year, as it really set off the crowd of millennials that made up the bulk of the audience. Maybe I'm expecting too much, or not understanding what people want from a protest song these days. "Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin |
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Reply #6 posted 08/14/15 10:36am
MotownSubdivis ion |
deebee said: I like the music and the hook, which are powerful (and thankfully veer away from the music-by-numbers turn of Yoga into something more interesting and soulful). And I applaud the intention of showing solidarity with those killed and others seeking to oppose that in the present day. I thought she might have some kind of reflections or commentary to offer lyrically, though. There's nothing here beyond the call to 'say his/her name'.
It's odd, because she can often be very eloquent, especially when it's on a more personal kind of politics. I always liked the heartfelt rap in Q.U.E.E.N., and it was a moment I remember from her concert last year, as it really set off the crowd of millennials that made up the bulk of the audience. Maybe I'm expecting too much, or not understanding what people want from a protest song these days. This. I feel the same way. It's a good track but I think it could have been even better with some actual verses. It sounds more like an extended interlude than a song. |
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Reply #7 posted 08/14/15 11:05am
babynoz |
Outstanding! Much love and power to Janelle and the collective. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. |
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Reply #8 posted 08/14/15 11:10am
babynoz |
deebee said:
I like the music and the hook, which are powerful (and thankfully veer away from the music-by-numbers turn of Yoga into something more interesting and soulful). And I applaud the intention of showing solidarity with those killed and others seeking to oppose that in the present day. I thought she might have some kind of reflections or commentary to offer lyrically, though. There's nothing here beyond the call to 'say his/her name'.
It's odd, because she can often be very eloquent, especially when it's on a more personal kind of politics. I always liked the heartfelt rap in Q.U.E.E.N., and it was a moment I remember from her concert last year, as it really set off the crowd of millennials that made up the bulk of the audience. Maybe I'm expecting too much, or not understanding what people want from a protest song these days.
I kind of think that in this case less is more though. This being the sound-bite generation and all. The chant and drums send a powerful message that people cannot accuse of being preachy.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. |
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Reply #9 posted 08/14/15 1:45pm
deebee |
babynoz said:
deebee said:
I like the music and the hook, which are powerful (and thankfully veer away from the music-by-numbers turn of Yoga into something more interesting and soulful). And I applaud the intention of showing solidarity with those killed and others seeking to oppose that in the present day. I thought she might have some kind of reflections or commentary to offer lyrically, though. There's nothing here beyond the call to 'say his/her name'.
It's odd, because she can often be very eloquent, especially when it's on a more personal kind of politics. I always liked the heartfelt rap in Q.U.E.E.N., and it was a moment I remember from her concert last year, as it really set off the crowd of millennials that made up the bulk of the audience. Maybe I'm expecting too much, or not understanding what people want from a protest song these days.
I kind of think that in this case less is more though. This being the sound-bite generation and all. The chant and drums send a powerful message that people cannot accuse of being preachy.
But, in a sense, people can't accuse it of anything at all, because it doesn't really commit to saying anything specific. Maybe she felt like she'd said enough with the chant and the drums - and the long list of names - and didn't want to go 'poking her oar in' or trying to 'speak for' anyone. I can see how there's something appealing about leaving it as something that's like a collective thing - almost like a refrain that could be taken up by the protestors themselves. I suppose it just made me wonder what her reflections on the situation might have been. I do like it when an artist offers us up a little food for thought - especially if they add something that nails it or adds something to what's already been said.
(I don't know nothin' about this soundbite generation!) "Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin |
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Reply #10 posted 08/14/15 1:49pm
deebee |
MotownSubdivision said:
deebee said:
I like the music and the hook, which are powerful (and thankfully veer away from the music-by-numbers turn of Yoga into something more interesting and soulful). And I applaud the intention of showing solidarity with those killed and others seeking to oppose that in the present day. I thought she might have some kind of reflections or commentary to offer lyrically, though. There's nothing here beyond the call to 'say his/her name'.
It's odd, because she can often be very eloquent, especially when it's on a more personal kind of politics. I always liked the heartfelt rap in Q.U.E.E.N., and it was a moment I remember from her concert last year, as it really set off the crowd of millennials that made up the bulk of the audience. Maybe I'm expecting too much, or not understanding what people want from a protest song these days.
This. I feel the same way. It's a good track but I think it could have been even better with some actual verses. It sounds more like an extended interlude than a song.
Yeah, or like a teaser for a full track to follow. Who knows? Maybe she'll have more to say in future releases. "Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin |
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Reply #11 posted 08/14/15 2:09pm
lezama |
Unfortunately this song isn't on the Wondaland EP.. Change it one more time.. |
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Reply #12 posted 08/14/15 7:32pm
babynoz |
deebee said:
babynoz said:
I kind of think that in this case less is more though. This being the sound-bite generation and all. The chant and drums send a powerful message that people cannot accuse of being preachy.
But, in a sense, people can't accuse it of anything at all, because it doesn't really commit to saying anything specific. Maybe she felt like she'd said enough with the chant and the drums - and the long list of names - and didn't want to go 'poking her oar in' or trying to 'speak for' anyone. I can see how there's something appealing about leaving it as something that's like a collective thing - almost like a refrain that could be taken up by the protestors themselves. I suppose it just made me wonder what her reflections on the situation might have been. I do like it when an artist offers us up a little food for thought - especially if they add something that nails it or adds something to what's already been said.
(I don't know nothin' about this soundbite generation!)
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. |
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Reply #13 posted 08/15/15 7:54pm
getxxxx |
Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman |
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Reply #14 posted 08/16/15 2:49am
deebee |
"Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin |
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Reply #15 posted 08/16/15 8:13am
2elijah |
Wow. Thanks for this. Amazing. Respect to Janelle. The mention of those names called out, speaks for itself. [Edited 8/17/15 17:25pm]
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