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I agree. I think the older siblings especially J5 and Rebbie got it the hardest not to say Randy and Janet did not have it hard growing up but it was not nearly to the extent of the older siblings. The impact of Joes abuse on the older siblings was more harsher and detrimental. They were superstars before they were teens MJ and Marlon even Jermaine, Tito, Jackie were teens. Janet became a superstar as a young adult. Again, they all experienced abuse but they didn't experienced it on the same level or magnitude which is why Janet "appeared" more grounded. But she is not as grounded as the media likes to paint.... | |
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Or we can get their exact ages when they became a star. Based on these birthdates, Jackie born May 1951, Tito - Oct 1953, Jermaine Dec 1954, Marlon March 1957, Michael Aug 1958, Randy Oct 1961. . Signed Motown Contract - Aug 1968 Jackie, 17 years 3months Tito, 14 years 10 months Jermaine, 13 years 8 months Marlon, 11 years 5 months Michael, 9 years 11 months or 10 years 0 months (Depending on when in August it was signed) . But they were hardly stars then, as Motown kept them doing vocals for a year and grooming them- recording many unrealeased tracks which ended up on crappy re releases and best ofs. In 1968 they still has Marvin Gaye style crew cuts and even Jackie looked more teen than adult. Jermaine and Tito looked like they ahd entered puberty. . At the release of I want u back and Ed Sullivan show - November 1969 Jackie, 18 years 6months Tito, 16y 1m Jermaine 14y, 11m Marlon 12y, 8m Michael 11y, 3m (Although he was saying he was 9) . By this stage the 3 eldest were clearly gangly teenagers, Marlon and Michael still looked kidlike and Jackie was positively adult looking, it was about now they had started growing the afros. . When "I want you back was a #1 hit - January 1970 Jackie, 18y 8 mo Tito, 16y 3m Jermaine, 15y 1mo Marlon 12y 10m Michael, 11y 5mo . September 1970 when they had 4 #1 hits and started first tour . Jackie 19y 4m Tito 16y, 11m Jermaine 15y 9m Marlon 13y 6m Michael 12y 1m . Not much change in a year, but Jermaine was nearly as tall as Jackie now. Marlon and Michael both still kid like . January 1972, Michael hits with Rocking Robin, rest of group less famous and Tito about to marry . Jackie 20y 8mo Tito 18y 3m Jermaine 17y 1m Marlon 14y 10m Michael 13y 5m . Marlon and Michael still short and childlike - Jermaine now Jackie's height. . February 1974, Jermaine and Tito married, Jackie about 2, Randy joins group, Dancing machine a hit Jackie 22y 9m Tito 20y 4m Jermaine 19y 2m Marlon 16y 11m Michael 15y 6m Randy 12y 4m . By this stage Marlon and Michael finally look like teens, Randy only boyish looking Jackson. Jermaine the tallest. Marlon same height as Jackie. Tito and Michael still short. . August 1976 - Release of Jacksons, Jermaine left group, Jackie and Marlon also married . Jackie 25y 3m!!! Tito 22y 10m Marlon 19y 5m Michael 18y 0m Randy 14y 10m . No Jermaine now, but he is nearly 22 anyway, Randy entereing teens, others practicallya dults, Michael at his adult height and not liking puberty. . So as you can see it was only a partially kiddie group up to about 1972, with Michael and Marlon looking like kids, the rest were teenagers and in the case of Jackie, an adult. By 1975 they were pretty much an adult group.
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And exact ages today to nearest month - August 2015 . Joseph Walter Jackson born July 1928 (or 29 depending on who you believe) 86 or 87 years and 1 month Katherine (Kattie B) Esther Jackson (Scruse/Screws) born May 1930, aged 85 years 3 months. Married November 1949, when she was 3 months pregnant . Children 1. Maureen Reilette (Rebbie Jackson), born May 1950 age 65 years 3 months 2. Sigismund Esco (Jackie)born May 1951 age 64 years 3 months 3. Tariano (Or Toriano) Adaryll (Tito), born October 1953 age 61 years 10 months 4. Jeramine Lajuane (La Juan) (Jermaine) born Dec 1954 age 60 years 8 months 5. LaToya Yvonne May 1956 age 59 years 3 months 6a. Marlon David (They ditched the exotic Spanish names by this stage) Mar 1957 age 58 years 5 months 6b. Brandon Jackson (Still born Mar 1957) Marlon referenced him at Michael's funeral 7. Michael Joseph Jackson born Aug 1958, died June 2009 aged 50 years 10 months, age if he was alive 56 years 11 months - 57 years 8. Stephen Randall (Randy) Oct 1961 age 53 years 10 months 9. Damita Jo (Janet) May 1966 age 49 years 3 months. . Just shows you that they are all getting on and in this country Rebbie would have a Gold Card (Superannuation for pensioners) and Jackie would get his next year. Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name | |
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Michael Jackson outtakes Which outtakes do you think were worth it for being included in offical releases?
For me: Cheater, Abortion Papers, Streetwalker, Price Of Fame and I'm So Blue were worth it to be in Bad album
Hot Street, Behind The Mask and Much Too Soon for Thriller
Monkey Business, Do You Know Where Your Children Are, Someone Put Your Hand out
Blue Gangsta, Slave For The Rythm, A Place With No Name, We've Had Enough, Hollywood Tonight, On The Line, Shout, Fall Again, She Was Loving Me, Xscape, The Way You Love Me and Another Day.Those for a new album
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For me: Cheater, Abortion Papers, Streetwalker, Price Of Fame and I'm So Blue were worth it to be in Bad album
Look I agree, if there are more outtakes of that quality and the songs on Xscape, I am interested too, I have been all about Michael Jackson for two months now (I have been a fan for 35 of my 39 years) but lately just listening to everything, all the albums, Jackson5/Jackson stuff and anything related. I can't enough of his voice and his funkiness. . Damn Michael, I am starting to a get a Prince like obsession with him. I am even posting more on MJJ Community than Prince.org now. Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name | |
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For me Lovin You is a lovely song but not worth it to get an album release, and She Was Loving Me it's in fact Chicago. | |
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If MJ were alive today, name somesongs that other artists are doing that might be his if he were around to do them. I'll start:
The Weeknd - "I Can't Feel My face" While lyrically its unique to The Weeknd's style,the vocalarrangements and bass line are very much MJ sounding.
Chris Brown - "Fine China" So close to an MJ track. Sooo close. I think Mike would want that one.
Ne-Yo - "Money Can't Buy" Again, while lyrically, its Ne-Yo, I can clearly and easily picture Mike singing the vocal arrangements.
I'm not even gonna mention Timberlake. We see you and the rest of the sound poachers, Justin. We see you.
Any to add? I was thinking post MJ R.I.P. songs, not songs that he literally could have done while he was alive. | |
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Amazing stuff . Thanks for doing it, I am sure MJ would be amazed at how many people are digging him and his music. It's proof that great music will never die and MJ must have a whole new generation of fans now. Michael Jackson's music is truly immortal, it is like everyone of my favourite songs is in the 8 or 9 figure bracket. Glad to see my Absolute fave TWYMMF is at #9, that to me is the epic MJ power love ballad. Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name | |
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Some of you have already heard Seeing Voices, it leaked almost a month ago. Beautiful song, a kind of Hollywood old fashion soundtrack wit big chorus and orchestra arrangements | |
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Shocking how low "Behind The Mask" is on that list... out of all the posthumous tracks that its the most b-side sounding, like it was ready to roll with little touchup | |
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Correct me if I am wrong, but artist get very little for streaming services. So like MJ would have made much more if he got that many plays on the radio(at least in the old days) verses Spotify. To All the Haters on the Internet
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But he isn't alive. If anything, his legacy on physical media could be used to parallel the differences in revenue generated from streaming plays, if these works are as influential and essential as many claim. | |
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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heard about this OTW documentary Spike Lee is supposed to be doing
I say it's a 50/50 shot it happens, and if it did, he'll be forced or coerced to water it down some king of way
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I just came across this megamix of the songs from Xscape while I was searching for a megamix I made years ago (couldn't find it, I'll have to remake it ) and was pretty floored by it. It sounds a bit muddy and off at parts but its really good! If you have 17 minutes to kill, definitely give it a whirl haha. A lot of the little tidbits and sounds that were added to these songs sound like the sorta stuff Michael would've put in them if he were still around and wanted to do these songs live.
[Edited 8/30/15 15:16pm] Purple is the color of my heart,
Bruised from you leaving me. | |
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