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Reply #30 posted 07/08/15 6:51am

Blixical

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kidmelody2012 said:

CynicKill said:

Did Prince die recently?

No back in1988 after sign of the times!!

damn. falloff

มีเพียงความว่างเปล่า rose 只有空虚 rose Dim ond gwacter rose 만 공허함이있다 rose 唯一の虚しさがあります wilted There is only the void.
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Reply #31 posted 07/08/15 8:55am

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Kanye used to say that his greatest regret was not being able to see himself live in concert - but now he can at least cuddle with HIMSELF! biggrin

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1895236574/the-kanye-body-pillow

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Reply #32 posted 07/08/15 11:14am

namepeace

MotownSubdivision said:

namepeace said:


I suggested in my reply that in 2015 we could define "rock" broadly to include hip-hop. But that's playing Devil's Advocate for Kanye.

[Edited 7/7/15 14:36pm]

Hey, rappers are the new (or current, rather) rock stars/ hip hop is the new rock and way more popular than rock as a genre has ever been.


See Reply 16, I said the same thing based on the premise Kanye was probably right, until you get to the "living" part.

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
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Reply #33 posted 07/08/15 11:55am

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TheGoldStandard said:

Look at the phoney smile. Wipes RIGHT OFF like NUTHIN'. Awesome producer, below average rapper, horrible singer. Mediocre at best.

Hungry? Just look in the mirror and get fed up.
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Reply #34 posted 07/08/15 4:16pm

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MotownSubdivision said:

namepeace said:



MotownSubdivision said:


How are we defining "rock" and "rock star" here?


I suggested in my reply that in 2015 we could define "rock" broadly to include hip-hop. But that's playing Devil's Advocate for Kanye.

[Edited 7/7/15 14:36pm]

Hey, rappers are the new (or current, rather) rock stars/ hip hop is the new rock and way more popular than rock as a genre has ever been.

I remember reading in Billboard a few years ago that it was the genre with the lowest sales. That being said I believe it is Riahanna that is selling the most music.
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Reply #35 posted 07/08/15 4:46pm

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Kanye does something like this whenever he wants attention. He knows that his rants and him are tiring, so he's trying to make folks pay attention to him again........go away Kanye, and please take your wifey with you!

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Reply #36 posted 07/08/15 5:29pm

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laurarichardson said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Hey, rappers are the new (or current, rather) rock stars/ hip hop is the new rock and way more popular than rock as a genre has ever been.

I remember reading in Billboard a few years ago that it was the genre with the lowest sales. That being said I believe it is Riahanna that is selling the most music.
Sales are a non-factor. Hip hop has a broad and diverse audience, one that rock had never had. Elements of hip hop have permeated deep within pop culture and of course music culture from the apparel, language, rapping, and many other things. Hip hop even if it is the lowest selling genre (which isn't saying much given how pitifully albums of any genre sell now) resonates the strongest in the mainstream/ public eye. Nearly every demographic imaginable listens to hip hop from the urban community to the upscale suburban youth and then some. Rock has never had such widespread appeal.
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Reply #37 posted 07/08/15 5:34pm

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namepeace said:



MotownSubdivision said:


namepeace said:



I suggested in my reply that in 2015 we could define "rock" broadly to include hip-hop. But that's playing Devil's Advocate for Kanye.


[Edited 7/7/15 14:36pm]



Hey, rappers are the new (or current, rather) rock stars/ hip hop is the new rock and way more popular than rock as a genre has ever been.


See Reply 16, I said the same thing based on the premise Kanye was probably right, until you get to the "living" part.

Reply #16 belongs to Revolution. Even taking the "living" part into account, it's kind of hard to dispute his boast though Kanye leans more towards being a diva (though many rock stars have proven to be divas themselves).
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Reply #38 posted 07/08/15 6:35pm

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Kanye West is the LeBron James of the music world....always bragging that he's "the best" instead of going out there and proving it rolleyes that act is getting tired




Kanye West was the best rapper in the game at one time. It was all before the death of his


mother and since he seems to have hit a wall. Before his mom's death every thing he touched


turned to gold. He even bought one of my favorite rappers Common his greatest success with


his production skills. Yes he has become arrogant but it's pretty much calculated to keep folks


talking. lol


As far as LeBron James goes if you are blind to the fact he is the best basketball player in the game


right now, then you must not watch too much basketball or either pro MJ or pro Kobe or pro


LeBron hater. lol



I feel that,if a person really is "the best" at something,they wouldn't have to go around bragging.They would just simply go out there and *prove* that they are the best smile Even when it became clear that the Golden State Warriors were gonna win the championship,LeBron was still going around with that cocky,arrogant attitude.It backfired,though smile
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Reply #39 posted 07/09/15 5:52am

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I really don't see how any of this has to do with Lebron? He has proven year in and year out that he's one of the greatest players of all time. What more does the man have to do for fuck sake? Kanye on the other hand is just a plain arrogant asshole married to a fake media whore with no talent other than sucking dick! Let's leave Lebron out of this as he has a real talent.
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Reply #40 posted 07/10/15 9:50am

namepeace

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namepeace said:


See Reply 16, I said the same thing based on the premise Kanye was probably right, until you get to the "living" part.

Reply #16 belongs to Revolution. Even taking the "living" part into account, it's kind of hard to dispute his boast though Kanye leans more towards being a diva (though many rock stars have proven to be divas themselves).

Well, my apologies for the mis-cite, but see reply No. 24, where I basically said the same thing you did about hip-hop as rock music.

As for his "boast" of greatest "living" rockstar, he's no bigger of a diva than say, Prince, but the most successful rockstar of the moment and the greatest living rockstar are two different concepts.

If you're saying it is hard to dispute that Kanye is the biggest rockstar of the moment, then a compelling argument can be made.


If you are saying that it is hard to dispute that Kanye's claim to rock greatness is bigger than those of Stevie, McCartney, Jagger, Prince or other longstanding greats, well, that's an awfully big check to cash.

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
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Reply #41 posted 07/10/15 10:49am

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namepeace said:



MotownSubdivision said:


namepeace said:



See Reply 16, I said the same thing based on the premise Kanye was probably right, until you get to the "living" part.



Reply #16 belongs to Revolution. Even taking the "living" part into account, it's kind of hard to dispute his boast though Kanye leans more towards being a diva (though many rock stars have proven to be divas themselves).


Well, my apologies for the mis-cite, but see reply No. 24, where I basically said the same thing you did about hip-hop as rock music.

As for his "boast" of greatest "living" rockstar, he's no bigger of a diva than say, Prince, but the most successful rockstar of the moment and the greatest living rockstar are two different concepts.



If you're saying it is hard to dispute that Kanye is the biggest rockstar of the moment, then a compelling argument can be made.



If you are saying that it is hard to dispute that Kanye's claim to rock greatness is bigger than those of Stevie, McCartney, Jagger, Prince or other longstanding greats, well, that's an awfully big check to cash.

Well if you want to include Stevie then are we broadening the definition of rock star to be akin to musical icon?

And yes, I meant Kanye being the current biggest "rock star" is hard to dispute.
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Reply #42 posted 07/10/15 10:58am

Elephants

To be fair, he is a lot better than he used to be:

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Reply #43 posted 07/10/15 11:02am

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he is nobody has changed music more than him last 10 years

People can't accept the truth biggrin

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #44 posted 07/13/15 12:01am

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I'm confused. Greatest living crackhead??

Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
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Reply #45 posted 07/15/15 4:24am

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luvsexy4all said:

kidmelody2012 said:

what rockstar has more hits than kanye in last 10 years? im waiting......

so having hits is defining of "the greatest rock star"?

Well you have to have HITS to be a Star

HITS that people keep playing or copying

A music style/sound people copy! and cross into mainstream culture!

So on this front Kanye is currently "The Greatest Rock Star in the World at the Moment"

Trust me Sir Paul is not going to appear on any "RAPPERS" single

Every rapper has worked or copied his style in the last 10 Years

Every Euro Dance track has used his sample style - since he sampled DP in "Stronger" note his "Prince" call-out a new generation found Purple Rain after that track

His understanding of music and scope is amazing for a non-musician

Hip-Hop has been the new "Rock" for since 1987 and mainstream since 1991 .... "rock" died after this date!

Eye Was Born & Raised On The Same Plantation In The United States Of The Red, White And Blue Eye Never Knew That Eye Was Different Til Dr. King Was On The Balcony
Lying In A Bloody Pool......Call me a Dreamer 2 - R.I.P - James Brown and Michael Jackson
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Reply #46 posted 07/15/15 4:37pm

EroticDreamer

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luvsexy4all said:

so having hits is defining of "the greatest rock star"?

Well you have to have HITS to be a Star

HITS that people keep playing or copying

A music style/sound people copy! and cross into mainstream culture!

So on this front Kanye is currently "The Greatest Rock Star in the World at the Moment"

Trust me Sir Paul is not going to appear on any "RAPPERS" single

Every rapper has worked or copied his style in the last 10 Years

Every Euro Dance track has used his sample style - since he sampled DP in "Stronger" note his "Prince" call-out a new generation found Purple Rain after that track

His understanding of music and scope is amazing for a non-musician

Hip-Hop has been the new "Rock" for since 1987 and mainstream since 1991 .... "rock" died after this date!

Nah.

Thanks for the laughter nutso

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Reply #47 posted 07/16/15 10:41am

dancerella

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he is nobody has changed music more than him last 10 years




I agree! Very few have the balls to speak their minds the way he does. He's this generations Axl Rose.
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Reply #48 posted 07/16/15 10:45am

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thisisreece said:


Say what you want about the man himself, but MBDTF and Yeezus are stunning albums.



MBDTF is good but severely overrated and Yeezus is garbage. Give me CD, LR, Graduation, or even 808s before either of them.




808's and Heartbreaks is his best album in my opinion. Masterpiece!
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