06/2015

Apple Music, announced at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference in San Francisco this week, is expected to rival current industry leaders.

Earlier this year, Tidal set out to take on Spotify, Pandora, and Apple. But even with hip-hop mogul Jay Z at its helm, Tidal still remains a lesser-known competitor in the world of music-streaming.

However, what Tidal offers apart from Spotify and Pandora is higher-resolution music and Tidal Discovery, where listeners and artists – even those unsigned – can connect directly with each other through personal profiles.

Apple Music, which will be available on iOS and Android beginning June 30, touts what sounds like a similar feature called Connect.

Beyond Connect, Apple Music will also offer a mix of free music with paid on-demand listening, and radio stations programmed by DJs rather than computerized algorithms.

Although Apple maintains the ability to easily distribute Apple Music through the native app on iOS devices, research analysts Anthony DiClemente and Kevin Rippey, said in a Nomura report that they do not believe the new service will significantly disrupt incumbent leaders Pandora and Spotify.

Tidal was not mentioned in the report, but Rippey said in a telephone interview that the service hardly stood a chance in the music streaming industry to begin with. Ouch!

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Identity said:

06/2015

Apple Music, announced at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference in San Francisco this week, is expected to rival current industry leaders.

Earlier this year, Tidal set out to take on Spotify, Pandora, and Apple. But even with hip-hop mogul Jay Z at its helm, Tidal still remains a lesser-known competitor in the world of music-streaming.

However, what Tidal offers apart from Spotify and Pandora is higher-resolution music and Tidal Discovery, where listeners and artists – even those unsigned – can connect directly with each other through personal profiles.

Apple Music, which will be available on iOS and Android beginning June 30, touts what sounds like a similar feature called Connect.

Beyond Connect, Apple Music will also offer a mix of free music with paid on-demand listening, and radio stations programmed by DJs rather than computerized algorithms.

Although Apple maintains the ability to easily distribute Apple Music through the native app on iOS devices, research analysts Anthony DiClemente and Kevin Rippey, said in a Nomura report that they do not believe the new service will significantly disrupt incumbent leaders Pandora and Spotify.

Tidal was not mentioned in the report, but Rippey said in a telephone interview that the service hardly stood a chance in the music streaming industry to begin with. Ouch!

http://tinyurl.com/occncud

I don't think APPLE really cares about TIDAL, or even artists, at this point Digital sales are dropping fast Music Sales still tanking, people don't want to buy music anymore, its just that simple, that would rather rent a service, like a Netflix type thing etc... THis will be big probably cut a big hole in Spotify ESPECIALLY if it pays artists more, that is the major issue, if they do, artists will yank their shit in seconds.

We're at a point now where artists should just give their music away free,and focus entirely on touring.The music business is almost completely DEAD.People simply do not want to buy something that they can easily get for free.

This generations has a lot more options on how they spend their time and money for entertaiment. Music was once the "belle of the ball" just as TV was, once. The computer / Internet -the "information age" - changed all of that. A lot of folks in the music biz assumed (and they assumed wrong) that music was bullit proof. Look at the other example of compaines who once seem invincible, US eletronics, car, steel, IBM, Xerox, Sears, and yes, Microsoft. If you look at what tripped these companies up its always the same things shit...contempt for their customers, corrupton, greed, hubris, and protectionism.

The only thing Apple Inc. cares about is their bottom line. That company isn't about to give artist more money in order to lure them over from Spotify. Music-Streaming is a niche market.

SoulAlive said:

We're at a point now where artists should just give their music away free,and focus entirely on touring.The music business is almost completely DEAD.People simply do not want to buy something that they can easily get for free.

The problem with doing this is artists DONT make all the money off touring, that reasoning, is cool if you are Bon Jovi or Taylor Swift , Madonna etc...artists with a catalog that can still put ALOT of asses in seats despite high cost tours and tickets. But the idea that artists like Van Hunt or Elle Varner or Andy Allo etc...make $$ that can support them from touring, these artists do club gigs which dont pay much. They still have to have a consumer, but they also cannot invest so PLEDEGE MUSIC and things like that are gonna be the future for ALOT.

The problem with giving it away FREE, is that when U2 does it half the population Cries about it, that its an invasion of privacy. or somehow giving it for nothing, takes the value out of the art (this was a new excuse tossed around) . Once it went digital that was it, the end game over.

Identity said:

06/2015

Apple Music, announced at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference in San Francisco this week, is expected to rival current industry leaders.

Earlier this year, Tidal set out to take on Spotify, Pandora, and Apple. But even with hip-hop mogul Jay Z at its helm, Tidal still remains a lesser-known competitor in the world of music-streaming.

However, what Tidal offers apart from Spotify and Pandora is higher-resolution music and Tidal Discovery, where listeners and artists – even those unsigned – can connect directly with each other through personal profiles.

Apple Music, which will be available on iOS and Android beginning June 30, touts what sounds like a similar feature called Connect.

Beyond Connect, Apple Music will also offer a mix of free music with paid on-demand listening, and radio stations programmed by DJs rather than computerized algorithms.

Although Apple maintains the ability to easily distribute Apple Music through the native app on iOS devices, research analysts Anthony DiClemente and Kevin Rippey, said in a Nomura report that they do not believe the new service will significantly disrupt incumbent leaders Pandora and Spotify.

Tidal was not mentioned in the report, but Rippey said in a telephone interview that the service hardly stood a chance in the music streaming industry to begin with. Ouch!

http://tinyurl.com/occncud

exactly, your subject line hit the nail right on the head. industry insiders knew this was coming for quite some time, I would NEVER put my artists music on TIDAL. So many folks were quick to jump on the bandwagon not understsanding what it means in the grand scheme of things. There is more to come.............

lastdecember said:

SoulAlive said:

We're at a point now where artists should just give their music away free,and focus entirely on touring.The music business is almost completely DEAD.People simply do not want to buy something that they can easily get for free.

The problem with doing this is artists DONT make all the money off touring, that reasoning, is cool if you are Bon Jovi or Taylor Swift , Madonna etc...artists with a catalog that can still put ALOT of asses in seats despite high cost tours and tickets. But the idea that artists like Van Hunt or Elle Varner or Andy Allo etc...make $$ that can support them from touring, these artists do club gigs which dont pay much. They still have to have a consumer, but they also cannot invest so PLEDEGE MUSIC and things like that are gonna be the future for ALOT.

The problem with giving it away FREE, is that when U2 does it half the population Cries about it, that its an invasion of privacy. or somehow giving it for nothing, takes the value out of the art (this was a new excuse tossed around) . Once it went digital that was it, the end game over.

I generally agree but as hard as we are looking at ways of streaming and charging people for that access, they should be looking at creative ways of getting money together, like FRESH FEST. Today, we have Rock The Bells and you have to be a big artist to get on, but Rock The Bells doesn't have to be the only touring rap gig now and in the future. You know what I mean? There is always a way of consolidating some of the overhead and making a draw for a paying audience.

The days of paying for music are over because you have teens who grew up with NAPSTER or other illegal downloading programs since they were toddlers so it is completely normalized.

BUT they probably don't remember the days of cheap concerts

lastdecember said:

SoulAlive said:

lastdecember said:

The problem with doing this is artists DONT make all the money off touring, that reasoning, is cool if you are Bon Jovi or Taylor Swift , Madonna etc...artists with a catalog that can still put ALOT of asses in seats despite high cost tours and tickets. But the idea that artists like Van Hunt or Elle Varner or Andy Allo etc...make $$ that can support them from touring, these artists do club gigs which dont pay much. They still have to have a consumer, but they also cannot invest so PLEDEGE MUSIC and things like that are gonna be the future for ALOT.

The problem with giving it away FREE, is that when U2 does it half the population Cries about it, that its an invasion of privacy. or somehow giving it for nothing, takes the value out of the art (this was a new excuse tossed around) . Once it went digital that was it, the end game over.

Well,they gotta find some new solution because let's face it....people don't buy music anymore.

I realize now I am basically paying for cover art and liner notes and a piece of plastic/vinyl.

Janet had a good solution... tour, and in order to get presale access, offer the physical product.

I still think we should see more artists touring together to draw in bigger audiences, a la Fresh Fest.

Tidal was pretty much dead on arrival but Apple music service may really put the nail in the coffin. I think Spotify will be fine as long as it has the free option. People will take free over paying a monthly subscription even if it's Apple.

Google Play probably has the best streaming service, so good I've been willing to pay the monthly $9.99 for All-Access, which is the best music buying experience today besides purchasing physical CDs.

Whilst artists giving away their music for free like U2 and P did when he had his albums with some UK newspapers is a good idea in theory, it does detract from the value of the music itself. It's really a market for collectors/completists now and what the record labels need to do is re-educate the audience into making them value the music again. Like the time it takes to write songs, record them, mix them etc. As most of the money goes to the labels themselves I think people have the notion that by either not buying albums & finding an alternative way to listen/download them that it doesn't really harm the artist(s). But when we're talking either newcomers or independent label ones and Van Hunt is a good example, I think without fans purchasing their songs and/or albums will put them and any future musicians out of the business altogether because they don't have the motivation apart from the love of music to even pursue to a career in the industry because it's not financially viable for them now. Unless they are a record label 'product' who has the good looks, marketability etc then the labels won't invest in someone, however talented, if the audience won't buy their music.

You could say if someone's talented enough they'll break out as an artist, but that's not necessarily true. Sometimes it takes artists a few years, even more to really break out and Prince is a great example. 'For You' is a solid Pop-Soul album but it took '1999' & 'Purple Rain' to really turn P into a star. Now Prince would probably be dropped a few albums in, perhaps even after 'For You' if he didn't sell the necessary amount required by WB and we'd have lost out on all that music he's recorded since (both officially and unofficially released). What the music industry needs and it's a re-branding like the video games industry had where they've turned a past-time usually for kids & young adults into a huge industry which appeals to everybody. Music is universal and is probably the easiest 'product' you can market, but if the market can get it for free at point of sale, that's where the problem lies. That is unless they re-educate the younger audience who I'm sure think's nothing of spending big $'s on the latest video game so why not spend that money on a CD or digital download?. Maybe if the labels re-distributed their profits so it's more 50/50, people would be on board as they'd be directly supporting the artist rather than the artist getting chump change on each CD etc they sell. Really it's the industry in general which needs re-evaluating and them to invest again in real talented artists or sign them up from their own indie labels or independent labels as most music listeners want 'real' music and not disposable 'pop' as that has a short shelf life and the artist(s) who sing it are almost interchangable.

Going 10-20, even more years down the line where will the next MJ, Prince, Stevie, Jimi et al come from? I don't see that happening as they'll have to make ends meet doing other professions because the music industry will be even more in a state of flux and the value of music itself totally diminshed. That is unless they make a stand now, forget a little about the profits they are making, embrace their artists and build them up and give them time to grow & most importantly of all make music a valuable commodity again, not just for the labels, but the artists themselves, as they are the ones who are essentially creating art.

SoulAlive said:

I use Spotify but honestly,I rarely even use that anymore.I'm old school,I don't really "stream" music.I simply buy the CD.

Yep.

Canadians still pay through the nose for data, and streaming video or audio can use up a lot of your plan. I also often find myself with shitty wi-fi.

One day I might stream stuff, but not now. I listened to several CDs today.