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Wish we could see a 30th anniversary of Control, or some more deluxe / remastered editions. I bought all those later hits compilations just to hear some of her songs remastered. They probably should have come out same time as Discipline (and Thriller 25).

Cinny said:

BlackCat1985 said:

Cinny said:

Wish we could see a 30th anniversary of Control, or some more deluxe / remastered editions. I bought all those later hits compilations just to hear some of her songs remastered. They probably should have come out same time as Discipline (and Thriller 25).

It would have been really cool had she released a Rhythm Nation 25 remastered edition. That album's impact is still felt to this day. I was watching Lifetime's Bring it dancing show and these young girls who weren't even thought of when it was released were dancing to this song. They had the Rhythm Nation outfits and everything. It was a beautiful thing to see.

If a 1995 Smashing Pumpkins album can be reissued as a box set, certainly we can get a special edition of a true landmark album, Rhythm Nation.

Cinny said:

Did "Make Me" really go number one? I can't believe the only janet. era track to go number one was "That's The Way Love Goes".

Cinny said:

alphastreet said:

i don´t get it, why would RN1814 now be diamond? I think it sold about 6 million in the US at the time of release, are they saying it sold another 4 million till today?

BlackCat1985 said:

alphastreet said:

Again went to number 1 for 2 weeks in Christmas as well

Oh yeah! I stand corrected. How the hell did I forget that one. Its one of my favorites!

"Again" is the one I thought was missing from:
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she did nothing for the rhythm nation 25th which pissed me off.

nextedition said:

i don´t get it, why would RN1814 now be diamond? I think it sold about 6 million in the US at the time of release, are they saying it sold another 4 million till today?

soundscan only started tracking sales in 1991, control and RN were both already certified at 6 million by then, they were never recertified in almost 30 and 25 years.the riaa does certifications and usually goes by albums shipped and they include those music clubs which janet's albums has always done well. when i bought those albums they were vinyl, i ordered the cd's from one of the music clubs just like most other fans, so if you add that up over all those years im sure a&m has shipped more than 4 million of those cd's.

I think that the janet. album is most definitely diamond at this point. That thing sold a grip back in the day. I wish she'd go ahead and get her biggest sellers recertified too. I do admire that she takes a whatever the fuck kind of appraoch, but the numbers are good for stats's sake.

some several year old Sounscan numbers.

7,010,000, "janet." (1993)
3,229,000, "The Velvet Rope" (1997)
3,107,000, "All for You" (2001)
2,422,000, "Design of a Decade 1986/1996" (1995)
1,377,000, "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814" (1989)
1,002,000, "Damita Jo" (2004)
655,000, "20 Y.O." (2006)
496,000, "Control" (1986)
446,000, "Discipline" (2008)


janet. is close to CrazySexyCool (diamond) but I don't get how 7 million is diamond. ...Baby One More Time, now that's a diamond album. (Don't argue with me about quality I'm not saying it deserves it and janet. doesn't.)

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Hudson said:

nextedition said:

JanFan said:

Hudson said:

some several year old Sounscan numbers.

7,010,000, "janet." (1993)
3,229,000, "The Velvet Rope" (1997)
3,107,000, "All for You" (2001)
2,422,000, "Design of a Decade 1986/1996" (1995)
1,377,000, "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814" (1989)
1,002,000, "Damita Jo" (2004)
655,000, "20 Y.O." (2006)
496,000, "Control" (1986)
446,000, "Discipline" (2008)


janet. is close to CrazySexyCool (diamond) but I don't get how 7 million is diamond. ...Baby One More Time, now that's a diamond album. (Don't argue with me about quality I'm not saying it deserves it and janet. doesn't.)

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According to soundscan, CrazySexyCool has only sold 7.3 million yet magically is at 11x platinum. Daydream by Mariah has also only sold a little over 7 million in the US yet is Diamond. But no one says anything about that. It's always an issue when Janet is speculated to have a Diamond album and just shouldn't be afforded to her. [Edited 4/14/15 22:26pm] [Edited 4/14/15 22:29pm]

That's why I brought up CSC's soundscan numbers (though not very articulately) to show I'm not biased against Janet. She's my favorite artist of all time.

Hudson said:

JanFan said:

Hudson said: According to soundscan, CrazySexyCool has only sold 7.3 million yet magically is at 11x platinum. Daydream by Mariah has also only sold a little over 7 million in the US yet is Diamond. But no one says anything about that. It's always an issue when Janet is speculated to have a Diamond album and just shouldn't be afforded to her. [Edited 4/14/15 22:26pm] [Edited 4/14/15 22:29pm]

That's why I brought up CSC's soundscan numbers (though not very articulately) to show I'm not biased against Janet. She's my favorite artist of all time.

yeah mariah has 2 certified diamond albums but soundscan has them both at a little over 7 million. the riaa counts albums shipped. before soundscan i dont think there was a accurate accounting of record sales, i dont believe the janet. album outsold RN and maybe not even control,but definately not RN. if janet would have been recertifying her albums every few years she would probably have 3 albums certified diamond.

These were braggings right for labels back in the day, now they don't pay for certifications since they hold little value now. Especially for someone like Janet whose commercial power evaporated and had no studio album for seven years now...

What is Janet waiting on to do a Christmas Album?

What about Prince? Everytime I look, his sales go down!

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Last time I looked, a chart said that Purple Rain has only sold 16 million copies since 1984 (11 million USA and 5 million world), the real total must be at least 20 million.

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It is possible that Janet's numbers come from numbers of albums shipped to stores and placed on sale, rather than cash point sales. Or it could be estimates, that if 3 million copies sold in Beat Street, that 3 million also sold in Bluegrass lane, when really maybe only 2,345 copies sold in Bluegrass lane.

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Then again its America, so this is the same country that says Garth Brooks has sold 10 million of each album, when we have never even heard of him in our country or barely so in the UK. I think its a racist chart conspiracy to dull the impact of big selling Black artists outside of Shit hoppers and Chris Brown/Rihanna/Beyonce type singers.

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Is Platinum now 1.5 million or 1 million albums, and Diamond 10 or 15 million. I wonder whats next Uranium for 100,000,000 albums?

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LiveToTell86 said:

These were braggings right for labels back in the day, now they don't pay for certifications since they hold little value now. Especially for someone like Janet whose commercial power evaporated and had no studio album for seven years now...

So true and one of the biggest falls in music history.

She would have trouble giving away a new album.

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

EroticDreamer said:

LiveToTell86 said:

These were braggings right for labels back in the day, now they don't pay for certifications since they hold little value now. Especially for someone like Janet whose commercial power evaporated and had no studio album for seven years now...

So true and one of the biggest falls in music history.

She would have trouble giving away a new album.

I agree with this but I also think Janet has partial fault in that as well. There is a lot she can do to up keep her legacy by re-releasing past albums, special editions, behind the scene footages etc. She doesn't put emphasis on her back catalog which could really expose the new generation to her music. She doesn't ever have to release a new album but she should at least invest in her classics....she doesn't and that is hurting her legacy imo.

mjscarousal said:

EroticDreamer said:

So true and one of the biggest falls in music history.

She would have trouble giving away a new album.

I agree with this but I also think Janet has partial fault in that as well. There is a lot she can do to up keep her legacy by re-releasing past albums, special editions, behind the scene footages etc. She doesn't put emphasis on her back catalog which could really expose the new generation to her music. She doesn't ever have to release a new album but she should at least invest in her classics....she doesn't and that is hurting her legacy imo.

i think for awhile it hurt her but it seems like these days young artists are really appreciating her. im surprised at how much i see her mentioned on social media,especially since she hardly ever participates.the media downplays her career but i dont see that with the industry,her music is being sampled and covered more now that i've ever seen .

BlackCat1985 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Any DAY now! Janet will add to those sales, with her SPANKING BRAND NEW SONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope so! With that cryptic ass tweet she put out yesterday. I hope something is brewing.

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What cryptic ass tweet?

EroticDreamer said:

LiveToTell86 said:

These were braggings right for labels back in the day, now they don't pay for certifications since they hold little value now. Especially for someone like Janet whose commercial power evaporated and had no studio album for seven years now...

So true and one of the biggest falls in music history.

She would have trouble giving away a new album.

Are you serious? With the way her fanbase (which is huge, mind you) and various celebs Tweet, Instagram, Facebook and generally champ at the bit while waiting for a new album from her? You tried it, though. A new Janet album, which has been 7 years in the making, would certainly fair better than Madonna's latest flop, that's for sure. Also, Janet didn't "fall". She was blacklisted, for sure, but that didn't stop her from touring, writing a successful book, putting out several more high-charting albums, making movies, winning awards, and inspiring all these chicks you see occupying the Hot 100 these days.