Dancelot said:

I heard sometime ago that also the the keyboard intro from Thriller was "inspired" by the keyboard intro from 1999, that Michael came in the studio with a copy of the Prince album and said "I want an opening riff like that" is that true?

lol...I guess the whole point of this thread is that...everything is inspired by something else.It's not always "copyright infringement",either.

I personally like the John Coltrane quote that music is a reservoir, and it's OK to take something from it as long as you put something back in it.

Neither Thriller or Blurred Lines is 100% free of influence by past history.

I'm of the general mind that the Blurred Lines verdict was a mistake, and not does meet the traditional standard of copying either the lead line, the bass line, or the words virtually verbatim (see: Zeppelin). Blurred Lines doesn't meet that standard IMO.

Does every disco record with a four on the floor beat and soaring strings owe money to Van Mc Coy for "Do The Hustle"?

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SoulAlive said:

Dancelot said:

I heard sometime ago that also the the keyboard intro from Thriller was "inspired" by the keyboard intro from 1999, that Michael came in the studio with a copy of the Prince album and said "I want an opening riff like that" is that true?

lol...I guess the whole point of this thread is that...everything is inspired by something else.It's not always "copyright infringement",either.

That's exactly right. Another reason I didn't find Pharrell and Robin's statements about inspiration so incriminating: Marvin Gaye was an innovator and a modern soul architect right until the end ("Sexual Healing") so anyone writing soul after him would be hard pressed to say he wasn't an inspiration. Wouldn't THAT have been more disrespectful?

Marvin Gaye was an innovator and a modern soul architect right until the end ("Sexual Healing") so anyone writing soul after him would be hard pressed to say he wasn't an inspiration. Wouldn't THAT have been more disrespectful?

On point.

I remember when Elastica had hits with two different Wire riffs in the 90s and seem to remember them saying, "Oh well we don't even listen to them that much", and you just knew it was bullshit. THAT was copyright infringement by the way.

phunkdaddy said:

babynoz said:

Not one single sentence you wrote addresses what mjc actually posted.

Y'all need to get over it already. We're not gonna re-hash the blurred lines verdict in every thread no matter how many condesending comments you make.

I agree. A few of them are beyond ridiculous now. These folks need a new hobby like basket weaving.

Imma have to post a link to the crisis hotline in a minute....

mjscarousal said:

babynoz said:

Not one single sentence you wrote addresses what mjc actually posted.

Y'all need to get over it already. We're not gonna re-hash the blurred lines verdict in every thread no matter how many condesending comments you make.

I agree I think I will just leave it at that because I see where this thread is going.

LOL...I'm sure he didn't mean to sound condesending but the things that were said imply that all who are not in agreement, including the jury, just don't understand?

This is like the fifth thread referencing the same case. Maybe guns should have left the blurred lines comparison out of the OP?

nd33 said:

lowkey said:

perhaps marvin himself wouldnt have taken

Yes. Because he could simply write more songs to make a living. Unlike his family, who is leeching off his work.

Scorp said:

nd33 said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Scorp said:

no need to try and stain Thriller just because Robin Thicke and Pharrell hijacked Marvin Gaye.....lolllll

Robin Thicke's very first "hit" was a sample of Walter Murphy's rendition of Beethoven's 5th Symphony

Wow, a sample of a sample of a sample. How inspiring

PatrickS77 said:

lowkey said:

perhaps marvin himself wouldnt have taken

Yes. Because he could simply write more songs to make a living. Unlike his family, who is leeching off his work.

What's the difference in that and Morris Levy suing John Lennon about Come Together? Morris Levy owned Chuck Berry's songs. Chuck didn't sue. It was also a publishing company (Bright Tunes) that sued George Harrison for My Sweet Lord. George later bought the copyright to He's So Fine. In some cases it's not the songwriters suing, but a third party.

Scorp said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Wow, a sample of a sample of a sample. How inspiring

A sample of the rendition of the original lolll

I remember reading that Daryl Hall heard Billie Jean, acknowledged the similarity to his own I Can't Go For That, and then said something to the effect of "it's different enough to be different" and did not pursue it any further.

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I think that says a lot to his (and John's) character.

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I'm not sure how lawsuit-crazy people were back in the early 80s, but he would've had a much better argument than Marvin Gaye's family had against Blurred Lines.

Se7en said:

NPR's The Ted Hour did a fascinating piece on this very subject this last weekend.

http://www.npr.org/progra...2015-03-20

Basically this lawsuit is like opening Pandora's box.

Gunsnhalen said:

Y'all are complaining daily about Blurred lines. When Thriller didn't even borrow the bassline from Give It 2 Me. It's pretty much the exact same bass line...

Billy Jean is a sped up I Can't Go For That.

The Girl Is Mine has an incredibly similar pattern to ''Rosanna'' by ToTo. Which of course some of the Toto member helped on the album. But not on that track i believe.

I could name a few more examples... but no one called this ''stealing'' but simply borrowing. Why does Quincy get a pass?

Because Quincy respected Rick James more than enough to let him know about the bassline BEFORE the album was release, that's why.

TonyVanDam said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Y'all are complaining daily about Blurred lines. When Thriller didn't even borrow the bassline from Give It 2 Me. It's pretty much the exact same bass line...

Billy Jean is a sped up I Can't Go For That.

The Girl Is Mine has an incredibly similar pattern to ''Rosanna'' by ToTo. Which of course some of the Toto member helped on the album. But not on that track i believe.

I could name a few more examples... but no one called this ''stealing'' but simply borrowing. Why does Quincy get a pass?

Because Quincy respected Rick James more than enough to let him know about the bassline BEFORE the album was release, that's why.

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Pharrell should've told Marvin about that cowbell BEFORE the release, the fu$%in douche bag!

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Such a prick to hit a small mold of metal without consultation.

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nd33 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Because Quincy respected Rick James more than enough to let him know about the bassline BEFORE the album was release, that's why.

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Pharrell should've told Marvin about that cowbell BEFORE the release, the fu$%in douche bag!

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Such a prick to hit a small mold of metal without consultation.

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Maybe he prayed to his grave beforehand.

Turns out Marvin Gaye had Cola bottles, not a cowbell.

I wonder what a Starlight Sun video would have been about