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Graycap23

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Gaye's family files 'Blurred Lines' injunction

Ok.............now they've lost it.

What are they trying 2 prove?

Gaye's family files 'Blurred Lines' injunction

AP9:05 a.m. EDT March 19, 2015
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — Marvin Gaye's family wants to put a stop to Blurred Lines.

Gaye's children filed an injunction in court Tuesday to prevent the copying, distributing and performing of the hit song featuring Pharrell, Robin Thicke and T.I.

Pharrell and Thicke were ordered to pay nearly $7.4 million to three of Gaye's children after a jury determined last week that the performers copied elements of the R&B icon's 1977 hit Got to Give It Up.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2015/03/19/gayes-family-attempts-to-stop-blurred-lines-distribution/25009613/

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Reply #1 posted 03/19/15 7:39am

Cinny

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They should let that song still be played and performed and collect the royalties (I thought that was the point).

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Reply #2 posted 03/19/15 7:41am

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Wow! Is that Nona Gaye? She looks so different now. Drugs have really took a toll on her.
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Reply #3 posted 03/19/15 7:42am

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Seems the lawyers will be the ONLY one's making money when this is completed.

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Reply #4 posted 03/19/15 7:52am

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Cinny said:

They should let that song still be played and performed and collect the royalties (I thought that was the point).

Sony, Pharrell, and Thicke must be planning an appeal.... The money for the verdict must not be released yet from the defendents.

Plus, the family probably wants them to admit defeat, and be humble about it. The tweets that I've read after the verdict - says that the verdict would hurt music going forward.

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Reply #5 posted 03/19/15 10:02am

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Linn4days said:

Cinny said:

They should let that song still be played and performed and collect the royalties (I thought that was the point).

Sony, Pharrell, and Thicke must be planning an appeal.... The money for the verdict must not be released yet from the defendents.

Plus, the family probably wants them to admit defeat, and be humble about it. The tweets that I've read after the verdict - says that the verdict would hurt music going forward.

If the law didn't work in such a way of precedence, I would say it would absolutely hurt music going forward, but it may have been a perfect exercise against Pharrell who seems to think he can't be touched and bitin' is perfectly fine.

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Reply #6 posted 03/19/15 10:12am

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Cinny said:

Linn4days said:

Sony, Pharrell, and Thicke must be planning an appeal.... The money for the verdict must not be released yet from the defendents.

Plus, the family probably wants them to admit defeat, and be humble about it. The tweets that I've read after the verdict - says that the verdict would hurt music going forward.

If the law didn't work in such a way of precedence, I would say it would absolutely hurt music going forward, but it may have been a perfect exercise against Pharrell who seems to think he can't be touched and bitin' is perfectly fine.

Hurt? I hope it sticks..............and weeds out the biter's all together.

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Reply #7 posted 03/19/15 10:41am

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It could be posturing to force a lurcrative settlement before an appeal can be filed and heard.

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Reply #8 posted 03/19/15 10:48am

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namepeace said:

It could be posturing to force a lurcrative settlement before an appeal can be filed and heard.

It could be but it is so over the top.

Seems like a lawyer suggested move. (To bill more hours)

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Reply #9 posted 03/19/15 11:09am

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Wow! Is that Nona Gaye? She looks so different now. Drugs have really took a toll on her.

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More like pork or fried chicken. wink

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Reply #10 posted 03/19/15 11:31am

SoulAlive

Musicslave said:

BlackCat1985 said:

Wow! Is that Nona Gaye? She looks so different now. Drugs have really took a toll on her.

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More like pork or fried chicken. wink

can you imagine Prince being married to that?! She says that he was gonna marry her in the 90s then quickly announced that he's marrying Mayte instead nuts

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Reply #11 posted 03/19/15 11:53am

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Graycap23 said:

Cinny said:

If the law didn't work in such a way of precedence, I would say it would absolutely hurt music going forward, but it may have been a perfect exercise against Pharrell who seems to think he can't be touched and bitin' is perfectly fine.

Hurt? I hope it sticks..............and weeds out the biter's all together.

Oh MY. But some of ya faves bit at one time or another, but it was respectful.

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Reply #12 posted 03/19/15 12:03pm

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Cinny said:

Graycap23 said:

Hurt? I hope it sticks..............and weeds out the biter's all together.

Oh MY. But some of ya faves bit at one time or another, but it was respectful.

I think we would all be better off if the cream of the crop made music and the button pushers just fall by the way side.

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Reply #13 posted 03/19/15 12:13pm

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Graycap23 said:

Cinny said:

Oh MY. But some of ya faves bit at one time or another, but it was respectful.

I think we would all be better off if the cream of the crop made music and the button pushers just fall by the way side.

Did you know that no buttons were pushed for "Blurred Lines"? It was all performed.

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Reply #14 posted 03/19/15 12:15pm

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Cinny said:

Graycap23 said:

I think we would all be better off if the cream of the crop made music and the button pushers just fall by the way side.

Did you know that no buttons were pushed for "Blurred Lines"? It was all performed.

I'm taking in general. The button pushers are dominating the production side these days.

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Reply #15 posted 03/19/15 12:17pm

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Graycap23 said:

Cinny said:

Did you know that no buttons were pushed for "Blurred Lines"? It was all performed.

I'm taking in general. The button pushers are dominating the production side these days.

Trust me, nothing that musical will ever come from them! lol That's why I think it would hurt people trying to come up and do funk, for instance.

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Reply #16 posted 03/19/15 12:18pm

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Do you think Swizz Beatz is gonna mess up and sound like Marvin Gaye? lol

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Reply #17 posted 03/19/15 12:20pm

Graycap23

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Cinny said:

Do you think Swizz Beatz is gonna mess up and sound like Marvin Gaye? lol

I've lost a lot of love 4 the game.

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Reply #18 posted 03/19/15 12:33pm

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I feel like this exact same lawsuit could be launched against "Uptown Funk". Graycap, I know you think the track is weak to begin with. I see it as possibly a turning point in the comeback of funk. Usually in pop, someone knocks a door down, and we see more (better) records in the same vein.

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Reply #19 posted 03/19/15 12:55pm

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Cinny said:

I feel like this exact same lawsuit could be launched against "Uptown Funk". Graycap, I know you think the track is weak to begin with. I see it as possibly a turning point in the comeback of funk. Usually in pop, someone knocks a door down, and we see more (better) records in the same vein.

Uptown is derivative but theft? I don't think so.

Is that what people think?

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Reply #20 posted 03/19/15 2:33pm

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Graycap23 said:

Cinny said:

I feel like this exact same lawsuit could be launched against "Uptown Funk". Graycap, I know you think the track is weak to begin with. I see it as possibly a turning point in the comeback of funk. Usually in pop, someone knocks a door down, and we see more (better) records in the same vein.

Uptown is derivative but theft? I don't think so.

Is that what people think?

I think "Blurred Lines" is merely derivative and not theft.

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Reply #21 posted 03/19/15 2:43pm

scorp84

Cinny said:



Linn4days said:




Cinny said:


They should let that song still be played and performed and collect the royalties (I thought that was the point).




Sony, Pharrell, and Thicke must be planning an appeal.... The money for the verdict must not be released yet from the defendents.



Plus, the family probably wants them to admit defeat, and be humble about it. The tweets that I've read after the verdict - says that the verdict would hurt music going forward.






If the law didn't work in such a way of precedence, I would say it would absolutely hurt music going forward, but it may have been a perfect exercise against Pharrell who seems to think he can't be touched and bitin' is perfectly fine.




Can't be touched? Ultimately, it's the record company's decision to release these records, public's to deem it a hit, and a jury to somehow rule that this song "copied" another song. Ultimately, the negativity directed at this song has very little to do with the legacy of Marvin Gaye and more to do with people not liking "Blurred Lines" in the first place lol. Personally, as a Neptunes fan, there are many tracks (released/shelved/unreleased) I would rather have been smash hits than this one, but that's one man's opinion.

This injunction and their comments on "Happy" only reinforce my stance that greed is this family's only motivation; even more so their lawyers, considering the fact that they turned down a significant amount of money before this mess even started.
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Reply #22 posted 03/19/15 2:57pm

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scorp84 said:

Cinny said:



Linn4days said:




Cinny said:


They should let that song still be played and performed and collect the royalties (I thought that was the point).




Sony, Pharrell, and Thicke must be planning an appeal.... The money for the verdict must not be released yet from the defendents.



Plus, the family probably wants them to admit defeat, and be humble about it. The tweets that I've read after the verdict - says that the verdict would hurt music going forward.






If the law didn't work in such a way of precedence, I would say it would absolutely hurt music going forward, but it may have been a perfect exercise against Pharrell who seems to think he can't be touched and bitin' is perfectly fine.




Can't be touched? Ultimately, it's the record company's decision to release these records, public's to deem it a hit, and a jury to somehow rule that this song "copied" another song. Ultimately, the negativity directed at this song has very little to do with the legacy of Marvin Gaye and more to do with people not liking "Blurred Lines" in the first place lol. Personally, as a Neptunes fan, there are many tracks (released/shelved/unreleased) I would rather have been smash hits than this one, but that's one man's opinion.

This injunction and their comments on "Happy" only reinforce my stance that greed is this family's only motivation; even more so their lawyers, considering the fact that they turned down a significant amount of money before this mess even started.


So the family should have settled for what Robin Hood thought was an appropriate
amount to settle? What did you think was Robin's motivation? Protecting his brand? Rather protecting Marvin's brand
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Reply #23 posted 03/19/15 3:43pm

scorp84

Where do you think that money was gonna come from? Percentages of the sales from the single. He has a job (singer, songwriter, musician) that affords him the opportunity to make millions of dollars. They don't, but with a lawyer's help, anything is possible, I guess.
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Reply #24 posted 03/19/15 8:38pm

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Nile Rodgers: 'Blurred Lines' Court Verdict 'Shocking'

Posted: 03/19/2015 12:39 pm EDT Updated: 03/19/2015 1:59 pm EDT

LONDON (AP) — Musician Nile Rodgers has said it is "shocking" that Pharrell Williams and Robin Thicke have been found guilty of plagiarism in the "Blurred Lines" court case, adding that he believed the song's composition was not at all like Marvin Gaye's "Got to Give it Up."

Rodgers, of the band Chic, has worked alongside Williams in Daft Punk's smash hit "Get Lucky." He said Gaye's 1977 song and Thicke's 2013 hit "didn't really sound alike."

"Compositionally, purely compositionally, I don't think they should have lost that case," he told The Associated Press Wednesday in an interview. "'Got to Give it Up' is clearly a blues structure, ('Blurred Lines') isn't at all."

Williams and Thicke have been ordered to pay $7.4 million to the Gaye family. But the dispute continues with Gaye's children filing an injunction in court to prevent the copying, distributing and performing of the hit song.

Rodgers and Chic are releasing their first single in almost 25 years Friday with the album "It's about time" following in the summer.

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Reply #25 posted 03/19/15 9:23pm

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Some people are really tripping about this verdict. WHY I don't know. This verdict has brought light on a BIG problem that has been going on for years in the industry. I am not sure why these pop stars feel so entitled that they are to good to ask for permission to sample a song. This entire lawsuit could have been easily avoided. The fact that thicke and pharrell came for the Gaye Estate to begin with speaks volumes on their character and respect level imo.

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Reply #26 posted 03/19/15 9:55pm

SoulAlive

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Some people are really tripping about this verdict. WHY I don't know.

What's interesting about this particular case is....it seems that,to me,the opinions are evenly divided.Some people think the song is a rip-off,and some people think it's not.Both sides seem to have a valid argument.

My opinion has always been...the song is an obvious throwback,inspired by the Gaye song,but I don't consider it a direct rip-off.There are many,many,clear examples of songs that blatantly rip off other songs.I don't consider Blurred Lines to be one of those songs.I can hear many differences in both songs,like Niles pointed out.

but it's all over.Time for everyone to just move on shrug I don't think it's a good idea for Thicke and Pharrell to appeal.The case will drag on for years.Just write a check and move on to the next project.

[Edited 3/19/15 21:56pm]

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Reply #27 posted 03/19/15 10:19pm

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Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:

It could be posturing to force a lurcrative settlement before an appeal can be filed and heard.

It could be but it is so over the top.

Seems like a lawyer suggested move. (To bill more hours)



Namepeace is right. This is routine procedure pending an appeal. If the motion is granted they could possibly prohibit the defendants from getting any further benefit from the song until the appeal is decided.

It's a legitimate strategy to either force a settlement or get the defense to file their appeal in a timely manner instead of dragging it out for years.

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Reply #28 posted 03/19/15 11:06pm

mjscarousal

SoulAlive said:

mjscarousal said:

Some people are really tripping about this verdict. WHY I don't know.

What's interesting about this particular case is....it seems that,to me,the opinions are evenly divided.Some people think the song is a rip-off,and some people think it's not.Both sides seem to have a valid argument.

My opinion has always been...the song is an obvious throwback,inspired by the Gaye song,but I don't consider it a direct rip-off.There are many,many,clear examples of songs that blatantly rip off other songs.I don't consider Blurred Lines to be one of those songs.I can hear many differences in both songs,like Niles pointed out.

but it's all over.Time for everyone to just move on shrug I don't think it's a good idea for Thicke and Pharrell to appeal.The case will drag on for years.Just write a check and move on to the next project.

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All good points.

I am more disturbed with the way Pharrell and Thicke have handled this situation. Why not just quietly talk with the Gaye family (out of respect) about the differences in composition? Why sue them or make a case? I honestly would not be surprised if there were other unauthorized samples in the Blurred Lines song like the MJ one in which is not credited. Thats what makes me side eye Pharrell.

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Reply #29 posted 03/20/15 1:18am

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Nile Rodgers and Stevie Wonder know what they're talking about. Everything comes from everything before.

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