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Thread started 03/11/15 4:13pm

Cinny

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I'm scared that Kashif could sue Pharrell

for that Jennifer Hudson joint that sounded like Evelyn King, under the current ruling. sigh

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Reply #1 posted 03/11/15 5:01pm

TonyVanDam

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Kashif is the author of the book, Things You Better Knows About The Music Business. mr.green

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Reply #2 posted 03/11/15 5:38pm

scriptgirl

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Seriously?

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #3 posted 03/11/15 5:48pm

TeeeeHaaaaHooo
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Just Kashif? lol

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Reply #4 posted 03/11/15 6:41pm

nd33

The lawyers are over the moon with this shit. You best believe they're conniving their most lucrative schemes today!

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Check this out:

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http://www.cbsnews.com/ne...-to-happy/

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While the family was just awarded $7.4 million -- and is currently seeking an injunction against the song -- that doesn't mean their legal battle is over. According to some online, Williams' 2014 mega-hit "Happy" bears a similar sound to Gaye's "Ain't That Peculiar."

"I'm not going to lie. I do think they sound alike," Nona Gaye, Marvin's 40-year-old daughter, said.

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The slippery slope has begun...

[Edited 3/11/15 18:42pm]

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Reply #5 posted 03/11/15 7:06pm

SoulAlive

Nona is so full of shit.She apparently wants enough drug money to last her for a lifetime. disbelief
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Reply #6 posted 03/11/15 7:13pm

MickyDolenz

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"I'm not going to lie. I do think they sound alike," Nona Gaye, Marvin's 40-year-old daugher said

This came out when Marvin was alive and he didn't sue smile


For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #7 posted 03/11/15 7:19pm

nd33

MickyDolenz said:

"I'm not going to lie. I do think they sound alike," Nona Gaye, Marvin's 40-year-old daugher said

This came out when Marvin was alive and he didn't sue smile


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Needs more cowbell...

lol

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Reply #8 posted 03/11/15 7:21pm

SoulAlive

"Happy" is obviously inspired by 60s Motown,but it's a stretch for Nona to say that it's a direct rip-off of her father's song.Someone should tell her that it's OK for songs to be inspired by previous eras rolleyes Raphael Saadiq did an entire album inspired by 60s soul music.Nona should focus more on her own musical career....oh wait,she doesn't have one.My bad.

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Reply #9 posted 03/11/15 8:41pm

thesexofit

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Depends if Kashif wants to be a dick, but this "blurred lines" case won't influence a glut more of these sorta cases, as these copyright cases happen to big songs all the time probably. Just that most don't actually have much of a leg to stand on. Plus you need big money to sue LOL.

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Reply #10 posted 03/12/15 5:35am

missfee

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SoulAlive said:

"Happy" is obviously inspired by 60s Motown,but it's a stretch for Nona to say that it's a direct rip-off of her father's song.Someone should tell her that it's OK for songs to be inspired by previous eras rolleyes Raphael Saadiq did an entire album inspired by 60s soul music.Nona should focus more on her own musical career....oh wait,she doesn't have one.My bad.

spit Damn thats cold!

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Reply #11 posted 03/12/15 5:52am

Graycap23

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Pharell's whole career is based off other folks work.

He should be very concerned about the outcome of this case.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #12 posted 03/12/15 6:53am

Ego101

MARVIN COULDNT FUNCTION much less start legal proceedings...

MickyDolenz said:

"I'm not going to lie. I do think they sound alike," Nona Gaye, Marvin's 40-year-old daugher said

This came out when Marvin was alive and he didn't sue smile


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Reply #13 posted 03/12/15 6:55am

Ego101

She got to be an extra in some of Prince's CRAPPY 90's self made videos... lol

missfee said:

SoulAlive said:

"Happy" is obviously inspired by 60s Motown,but it's a stretch for Nona to say that it's a direct rip-off of her father's song.Someone should tell her that it's OK for songs to be inspired by previous eras rolleyes Raphael Saadiq did an entire album inspired by 60s soul music.Nona should focus more on her own musical career....oh wait,she doesn't have one.My bad.

spit Damn thats cold!

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Reply #14 posted 03/12/15 8:25am

MickyDolenz

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Ego101 said:

MARVIN COULDNT FUNCTION much less start legal proceedings...

Motown could have sued since they owned the recording and probably the publishing. They took the Jackson 5 and Joe Jackson to court and said they owned the name "Jackson 5". That's why they became "The Jacksons" at CBS Records.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #15 posted 03/12/15 9:06am

lezama

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SoulAlive said:

"Happy" is obviously inspired by 60s Motown,but it's a stretch for Nona to say that it's a direct rip-off of her father's song.Someone should tell her that it's OK for songs to be inspired by previous eras rolleyes Raphael Saadiq did an entire album inspired by 60s soul music.Nona should focus more on her own musical career....oh wait,she doesn't have one.My bad.

Speaking of Nona, she hasn't done anything in a minute... no acting or nothing. Guess the Pharrell payday will come in handy.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #16 posted 03/12/15 10:34am

namepeace

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Pharell's whole career is based off other folks work.

He should be very concerned about the outcome of this case.


He's rarely produced such a transparent imitation as "Blurred Lines." Of course he has reason to worry, but it was his and Robin Thicke's own comments linking "GTGIU" to "BL" that IMO sunk him.

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Reply #17 posted 03/12/15 10:47am

Graycap23

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namepeace said:

Graycap23 said:

Pharell's whole career is based off other folks work.

He should be very concerned about the outcome of this case.


He's rarely produced such a transparent imitation as "Blurred Lines." Of course he has reason to worry, but it was his and Robin Thicke's own comments linking "GTGIU" to "BL" that IMO sunk him.

I don't know about that. Everytime I hear one of his songs, I can hear where it came from within 15 seconds.

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Reply #18 posted 03/12/15 1:48pm

namepeace

Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:


He's rarely produced such a transparent imitation as "Blurred Lines." Of course he has reason to worry, but it was his and Robin Thicke's own comments linking "GTGIU" to "BL" that IMO sunk him.

I don't know about that. Everytime I hear one of his songs, I can hear where it came from within 15 seconds.


Yeah, virtually all of Pharrell's tracks have a source. But BL was an extended sample. I agree that the case opens the door. But he's usually been clever enough to dilute tracks to the point where you can hear the influence without exposing them as blatant ripoffs.

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Reply #19 posted 03/12/15 3:57pm

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How does copyright work on house, rave, and techno songs? A lot of them sound alike to me. lol So do some old blues songs, tejano, salsa, new jack swing, etc. Some Motown & Stax songs from the 1960s sound similar to each other and songs by certain producers like LA & Babyface and Stock Aitken Waterman. There's a song from the 1970s called Trying To Love Two by William Bell and many modern "soul blues" tunes (ig. Mel Waiters) have the same vocal arrangements. Malaco Records have a lot of soundalike songs too.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #20 posted 03/12/15 4:20pm

nd33

MickyDolenz said:

How does copyright work on house, rave, and techno songs? A lot of them sound alike to me. lol So do some old blues songs, tejano, salsa, new jack swing, etc. Some Motown & Stax songs from the 1960s sound similar to each other and songs by certain producers like LA & Babyface and Stock Aitken Waterman. There's a song from the 1970s called Trying To Love Two by William Bell and many modern "soul blues" tunes (ig. Mel Waiters) have the same vocal arrangements. Malaco Records have a lot of soundalike songs too.

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Copyright in ANY genre of music is supposed to work on lyrics and melody. That's why there are alot of people confused right now because the BL case seems to be on production treatment.

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Reply #21 posted 03/12/15 4:41pm

Ego101

Motown was very much imvolved with Marvin & his Legal issues around that 'Here my Dear' period.

MickyDolenz said:

Ego101 said:

MARVIN COULDNT FUNCTION much less start legal proceedings...

Motown could have sued since they owned the recording and probably the publishing. They took the Jackson 5 and Joe Jackson to court and said they owned the name "Jackson 5". That's why they became "The Jacksons" at CBS Records.

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Reply #22 posted 03/12/15 4:56pm

babynoz

namepeace said:

Graycap23 said:

Pharell's whole career is based off other folks work.

He should be very concerned about the outcome of this case.


He's rarely produced such a transparent imitation as "Blurred Lines." Of course he has reason to worry, but it was his and Robin Thicke's own comments linking "GTGIU" to "BL" that IMO sunk him.



I agree....everybody has forgotten about that though.

I'm amazed at how many threads there are on this topic already. I didn't think it would be that big a deal on the org.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #23 posted 03/12/15 5:00pm

babynoz

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Nona is so full of shit.She apparently wants enough drug money to last her for a lifetime. disbelief



Damn dude, did Nona run over your puppy or something?

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #24 posted 03/12/15 5:50pm

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babynoz said:



namepeace said:




Graycap23 said:


Pharell's whole career is based off other folks work.


He should be very concerned about the outcome of this case.




He's rarely produced such a transparent imitation as "Blurred Lines." Of course he has reason to worry, but it was his and Robin Thicke's own comments linking "GTGIU" to "BL" that IMO sunk him.





I agree....everybody has forgotten about that though.

I'm amazed at how many threads there are on this topic already. I didn't think it would be that big a deal on the org.



Like I said on another thread had Thicke and Pharrell did their homework and
given proper credit to the writers we would not be having this conversation.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #25 posted 03/12/15 6:44pm

babynoz

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babynoz said:



I agree....everybody has forgotten about that though.

I'm amazed at how many threads there are on this topic already. I didn't think it would be that big a deal on the org.

Like I said on another thread had Thicke and Pharrell did their homework and given proper credit to the writers we would not be having this conversation.



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Reply #26 posted 03/12/15 6:53pm

woogiebear

As soon as Tom Petty's People came after Sam Smith, U see how FAST He settled???

"Stay With Me"="I Won't Back Down

Same melody & cadence, no credit given (at FIRST)

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Reply #27 posted 03/12/15 7:51pm

thesexofit

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MickyDolenz said:

How does copyright work on house, rave, and techno songs? A lot of them sound alike to me. lol So do some old blues songs, tejano, salsa, new jack swing, etc. Some Motown & Stax songs from the 1960s sound similar to each other and songs by certain producers like LA & Babyface and Stock Aitken Waterman. There's a song from the 1970s called Trying To Love Two by William Bell and many modern "soul blues" tunes (ig. Mel Waiters) have the same vocal arrangements. Malaco Records have a lot of soundalike songs too.

Not worth going after. Gotta be a huge hit to bother with a settlement or court trial. Also need artists permission to persue I presume?

And as I said somewhere else, of course songs from the same period will sound similar. But unfortunately the word similar and ripoff mean the same thing to some people (i.e lawyers).

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Reply #28 posted 03/12/15 8:21pm

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:

"Happy" is obviously inspired by 60s Motown,but it's a stretch for Nona to say that it's a direct rip-off of her father's song.Someone should tell her that it's OK for songs to be inspired by previous eras rolleyes Raphael Saadiq did an entire album inspired by 60s soul music.Nona should focus more on her own musical career....oh wait,she doesn't have one.My bad.

Speaking of Nona, she hasn't done anything in a minute... no acting or nothing. Guess the Pharrell payday will come in handy.

She's never done anything significant lol She had a debut album that flopped,then worked with Prince on some stuff,but I don't think she ever came back with another album.

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Reply #29 posted 03/12/15 8:29pm

SoulAlive

Here's the thing...

to me,the best 'new' songs that I hear today are those that are inspired by the past.

Daft Punk's "Get Lucky" is like a modern-day Chic song,with Niles on it playing guitar.

I'm a huge fan of Jamiroquai and their stuff is obviously heavily inspired by the late 70s...drawing inspiration from artists like Roy Ayers,Pleasure,and others.

Raphael Saadiq's The Way I See It is a masterpiece to me.

I have been saying for years that we need to get back to that type of music lol and now everyone is doing the retro thing.But unfortunately,thanks to these ridiculous lawsuits,more artists might abandon the 'retro' thing and go back to making the lame shit-hop,modern crap that was dominating for so long (yeah,I know I sound like Vainandy (lol),but y'all know what I'm saying).

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