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Thread started 03/03/15 2:47pm

HAPPYPERSON

Which female artist would you say has the most iconic album?

It could be any genre

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Reply #1 posted 03/03/15 3:05pm

namepeace

Not BEST, but ICONIC?

Hard to pick a clear favorite, but I'd say the following are candidates.

Aretha Franklin's I Never Loved A Man The Way I Loved You

Joni Mitchell's Blue

Madonna's Like A Virgin

Janet Jackson's Control

Lauryn Hill's The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill . . .

and Adele's 21 will be a candidate in the years to come.

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Reply #2 posted 03/03/15 3:10pm

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Reply #3 posted 03/03/15 4:32pm

lowkey

rhythm nation 1814

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Reply #4 posted 03/03/15 5:46pm

Lammastide

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Carol King, Tapestry, comes to mind.


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Reply #5 posted 03/03/15 6:27pm

namepeace

Lammastide said:

Carol King, Tapestry, comes to mind.



Almost made my list.

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Reply #6 posted 03/04/15 3:27am

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I'm with Pandurito on this one. No one else even comes close.
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Reply #7 posted 03/04/15 4:52am

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namepeace said:

Not BEST, but ICONIC?

Hard to pick a clear favorite, but I'd say the following are candidates.

Aretha Franklin's I Never Loved A Man The Way I Loved You

Joni Mitchell's Blue

Madonna's Like A Virgin

Janet Jackson's Control

Lauryn Hill's The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill . . .

and Adele's 21 will be a candidate in the years to come.

THIS^(since it's most iconic, not "best")

I'd like to add

Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill

Britney Spears - Baby One More Time

Blondie - Parallel Lines (it's a male band with a female singer-leader, yeah, but you get the idea)

Kylie Minogue - Fever

Spice Girls - Spice

Lady GaGa - The Fame

Björk - Post

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Reply #8 posted 03/04/15 3:27pm

MickyDolenz

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Minnie Riperton ~ Perfect Angel

Deniece Williams ~ This Is Niecy

Miami Sound Machine (Gloria Estefan) ~ Primitive Love

Tracy Chapman ~ Tracy Chapman

Whitney Houston ~ Whitney Houston

Cyndi Lauper ~ She's So Unusual

Salt N Pepa ~ Very Necessary

Dolly Parton, Linda Ronstadt, Emmylou Harris ~ Trio

Tina Turner ~ Private Dancer

Anita Baker ~ Rapture

TLC ~ Crazy Sexy Cool

Bonnie Raitt ~ Luck Of The Draw

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #9 posted 03/04/15 4:07pm

JoeTyler

despite the haters and naysayers, also this one

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Reply #10 posted 03/04/15 5:21pm

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Amy Winehouse "Back to Black" baby, her story is tragedy but I don't know anyone who doesn't get into that sound. janet. was a really iconic album in that era as she was a major female artist addressing some then taboo topics and really heating up the video medium. The Carpenters and ABBA albums were really iconic for their place in time.

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Its hard to pick an "of all time" because time is the trick. The saga of Amy really stung me as a music fan.

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Reply #11 posted 03/04/15 5:25pm

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Lammastide said:

Carol King, Tapestry, comes to mind.


^^^This.

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #12 posted 03/05/15 1:34am

hw3004

Joni.

Blue.

....often imitated, never bettered.

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Reply #13 posted 03/05/15 3:20am

mancabdriver

Carol King - Tapestry

Joni Mitchell - Blue

And arguably the best.

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Reply #14 posted 03/05/15 5:30am

BlackCat1985

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Control
Rhythm Nation
Whitney
CrazySexyCool
BlackCat1985
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Reply #15 posted 03/05/15 6:11am

mjscarousal

Janet Jackson- Rhythm Nation

TLC- Crazy Sexy Cool

Whitney Houston- Bodyguard Album

Madonna- Erotica

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Reply #16 posted 03/05/15 9:03am

namepeace

Lammastide's Tapestry call and Pandurito's Hounds of Love call were really good ones. I left a lot of female faves off my list because I didn't see their albums, classic though they may be, as "iconic" per se. My most recent choice was from 1998; I think the albums have to have some "age" on them. Some of the albums from the mid-90s listed here I couldn't disdagree with, but albums less than 10 years old, the jury is still out (though like I said, 21 is probably on its way).

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Reply #17 posted 03/05/15 11:25am

LiveToTell86

Wow, so many silly choices... lol Whitney's albums are filler galore, just because they sold bucketloads, it doesn't make them iconic at all, they are largely ignored on best of lists. Same goes for 21, the epitome of middle of the road, ain't it?

I'd say Janet's Rhythm Nation 1814 and Madonna's self-titled debut are easily the most iconic.

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Reply #18 posted 03/05/15 3:33pm

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I don't think it's THE most iconic. Just one of the iconic ones:)

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Reply #19 posted 03/05/15 6:30pm

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Dusty in Memphis - Dusty Springfield

Etta James - At Last

Patti Smith - Horses

Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville

kd Lang - Shadowland

Coat Of Many Colors - Dolly Parton

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Reply #20 posted 03/05/15 7:51pm

Mintchip

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80's kid here, biased, but I vote for Tina's Private Dancer. (Don't even love the album that much)

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But it has the signature Look, that wig, those pumps with the fishnets, give me a break. Then 10 years later there's a MOVIE named after the SONG which all but mythologizes the woman's life, and ends with the ALBUM (which i don't think they even bother naming). We just know: that wig, that song = happy mf'ing ending, they all lived happily ever after.

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Except Ike.

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Reply #21 posted 03/05/15 7:56pm

Lammastide

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Mintchip said:

80's kid here, biased, but I vote for Tina's Private Dancer.


Ohhhh, good one! nod

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Reply #22 posted 03/06/15 9:49am

namepeace

LiveToTell86 said:

Wow, so many silly choices... lol Whitney's albums are filler galore, just because they sold bucketloads, it doesn't make them iconic at all, they are largely ignored on best of lists. Same goes for 21, the epitome of middle of the road, ain't it?

I'd say Janet's Rhythm Nation 1814 and Madonna's self-titled debut are easily the most iconic.

See . . . we weren't talking about quality were we?

Take for example, 21, which isn't an iconic . . . now. Someone who read carefully would notice that was said in the original response. I don't even listen to it that much. But as we know, the generations who grow up listening to the albums of today will decide what their iconic albums will be.

As for "most iconic," setting aside other iconic albums that preceded (or followed) them, RN 1814 and Madonna aren't even the "easy" choices from the Janet or discographies, even in a topic with few "wrong" answers to those with open, objective minds. One's Rhythm Nation is another's CrazySexyCool.

As Mintchip indicated, we shouldn't confuse iconography with merits, or or that matter, preferences.



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Reply #23 posted 03/06/15 9:51am

namepeace

SuperSoulFighter said:

I'm with Pandurito on this one. No one else even comes close.


Well, let's not go THAT far.

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Reply #24 posted 03/06/15 11:02am

mjscarousal

namepeace said:

LiveToTell86 said:

Wow, so many silly choices... lol Whitney's albums are filler galore, just because they sold bucketloads, it doesn't make them iconic at all, they are largely ignored on best of lists. Same goes for 21, the epitome of middle of the road, ain't it?

I'd say Janet's Rhythm Nation 1814 and Madonna's self-titled debut are easily the most iconic.

See . . . we weren't talking about quality were we?

Take for example, 21, which isn't an iconic . . . now. Someone who read carefully would notice that was said in the original response. I don't even listen to it that much. But as we know, the generations who grow up listening to the albums of today will decide what their iconic albums will be.

As for "most iconic," setting aside other iconic albums that preceded (or followed) them, RN 1814 and Madonna aren't even the "easy" choices from the Janet or discographies, even in a topic with few "wrong" answers to those with open, objective minds. One's Rhythm Nation is another's CrazySexyCool.

As Mintchip indicated, we shouldn't confuse iconography with merits, or or that matter, preferences.



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I see your point and agree with this in terms of classics and legendary status. However, I don't think you have to wait decades to determine if an album is iconic or not. I also don't think today's iconic moments are only based on the opinions of today's generation. Some of the albums mentioned in this thread are not only iconic for their generation but also for today's generation as well.

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Reply #25 posted 03/06/15 11:28am

namepeace

mjscarousal said:

namepeace said:

See . . . we weren't talking about quality were we?

Take for example, 21, which isn't an iconic . . . now. Someone who read carefully would notice that was said in the original response. I don't even listen to it that much. But as we know, the generations who grow up listening to the albums of today will decide what their iconic albums will be.

As for "most iconic," setting aside other iconic albums that preceded (or followed) them, RN 1814 and Madonna aren't even the "easy" choices from the Janet or discographies, even in a topic with few "wrong" answers to those with open, objective minds. One's Rhythm Nation is another's CrazySexyCool.

As Mintchip indicated, we shouldn't confuse iconography with merits, or or that matter, preferences.



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I see your point and agree with this in terms of classics and legendary status. However, I don't think you have to wait decades to determine if an album is iconic or not. I also don't think today's iconic moments are only based on the opinions of today's generation. Some of the albums mentioned in this thread are not only iconic for their generation but also for today's generation as well.


That's fair. We may just be arguing semantics. I see "icon" as being, like the literal interpretation of "legend," a touchstone. Something that stands out on the map. I think the test of time decides that question. When people look at iconic albums, they look at albums that define the voice and sound of a generation, for better OR worse. That's hard to do instantly. We could place bets on which new releases will be iconic but that's as far as I think we can go.

And you are right insofar as the audience in general, without regard to age, renders the verdict. While there may be a number of instant classics, I just think that there are few albums that classify as iconic albums, and IMO we don't truly know which ones they are until some time passes.

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Reply #26 posted 03/06/15 4:36pm

lowkey

iconic for me dont mean it sold alot or won awards. for me i have to see traces of it in pop culture,it had to have a lasting impression, there has to be instant recognition.i never heard of some of the albums named here, you dont have to like an iconic album or even listened to it but you have heard of it.

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Reply #27 posted 03/06/15 4:45pm

Ego101

Iconic... Hmmm?

But it sure sold well!

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Reply #28 posted 03/06/15 5:05pm

wonder505

Whitney Houston's the Bodyguard was a phenomena when it came out. Whether you like the songs are not. It hit big.

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Reply #29 posted 03/06/15 5:35pm

leecappella

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lowkey said:

iconic for me dont mean it sold alot or won awards. for me i have to see traces of it in pop culture,it had to have a lasting impression, there has to be instant recognition.i never heard of some of the albums named here, you dont have to like an iconic album or even listened to it but you have heard of it.

I agree with this too.

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