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Reply #60 posted 02/21/15 3:00pm

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TheGoldStandard said:

I have never ever heard of an album being released without the title track (re: the "clean version"). Why not make the whole 25 clean? This is weird. The 2 bitch songs are gonna be like "you sexy motherAUGHHHHH"

Call it the "Charlie Brown" version... LOL

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Reply #61 posted 02/21/15 3:23pm

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TheGoldStandard said:

I have never ever heard of an album being released without the title track (re: the "clean version"). Why not make the whole 25 clean? This is weird. The 2 bitch songs are gonna be like "you sexy motherAUGHHHHH"

I really don't see the point of all these different editions,anyway.Anyone who cares about Madonna is going to buy the complete version with all the tracks nuts Why edit Madonna,anyway? Anyone who's offended by the 'sex' songs must not have been around during the Erotica/Sex book era,lol.

They should release the 25-track version and leave it at that.

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Reply #62 posted 02/21/15 3:32pm

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TheGoldStandard said:

Maybe she'll record new vocals!! "you know you never really knew how much your selfish bullcrap cost me, well screw you" lol "yeezus loves my vagina best"

evillol

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Reply #63 posted 02/21/15 3:35pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

SoulAlive said:

According to Madonnatribe:

The tracklist of the Clean edition of Madonnas Rebel Heart has been recently added to the Amazon.com page for the digital version of the album.
The Clean version is based on the 14 track Standard edition and shares its same artwork with the Parental Advisory logo missing and a few interesting choices about which songs needed the cleaning treatment, and leaving us wonder how the edited versions will sound like.

01. Living For Love
02 Devil Pray
03. Ghosttown
04. Unapologetic B**** [Clean]
05. Illuminati
06. B**** Im Madonna [feat. Nicki Minaj] [Clean]
07. Hold Tight
08. Joan Of Arc
09. Iconic [feat. Chance The Rapper]
10. HeartBreakCity [Clean]
11. Body Shop [Clean]
12. Holy Water [Clean]
13. Inside Out
14. Wash All Over Me

I want the "dirty" version. evillol

me too biggrin the idea of a "clean" Madonna album is absurd.You don't censor someone like Madonna!! I can't imagine any fan preferring the clean version of her album.

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Reply #64 posted 02/21/15 3:40pm

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TheGoldStandard said:

It's very interesting as it does have that kinda 50s/60s easy listening/lounge vibe but it also has an early Neptunes vibe to it as well. I doubt we'll ever find out if Chad was on this or just Pharrell but I heard the same sounds from In Search Of and even Kaleidoscope on Take A Day. She also sounds like she is having fun and smiling as she sings, there is actual happiness there.

I can hear that too! I love that she's using all parts of her voice on the record too. For someone with not a huge range, she does quite a bit with her voice. She always sounds different.

Pharrell is my fav producer of the last 20 years.

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Reply #65 posted 02/21/15 6:36pm

SoulAlive

"Heaven" is yet another unreleased outtake from this album.It's a strong song with great lyrics and a haunting arrangement.I like it!

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Reply #66 posted 02/21/15 6:56pm

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SoulAlive said:

"Heaven" is yet another unreleased outtake from this album.It's a strong song with great lyrics and a haunting arrangement.I like it!

Yeah, just listened to this one a day or so ago. Think I already commented about how I like it. Definitely a keeper. wink

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Reply #67 posted 02/21/15 9:17pm

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I still don't understand why some people think Heart Break City is cheesy and doesn't relate to someone's life... The lyrics and music speak to me about a situation I used to be in at one time...so it is relevant. Whether past or present...

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Reply #68 posted 02/21/15 10:04pm

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Another song I can relate to from my rebellious past...

MADONNA LYRICS

"Rebel Heart"

I lived my life like a masochist
Hearing my father say: "Told you so, told you so"
"Why can't you be like the other girls?"
I said: "Oh no, that’s not me and I don't think that it'll ever be”

Thought I belong to a different tribe
Walking alone
Never satisfied, satisfied
Tried to fit in but it wasn't me,
I said: “Oh no, I want more, that's not what I'm looking for”

So I took the road less travelled by
And I barely made it out alive
Through the darkness somehow I survived
Tough love, I knew it from the start
Deep down in the depth of my rebel heart, of my rebel heart

I spent some time as a narcissist
Hearing the other say: "Look at you, look at you"
Trying to be so provocative
I said: "Oh yeah, that was me"
All the things I did just to be seen

Outgrown my past and
I've shed my skin
Letting it go and I'll start again, start again
Never look back
It's a waste of time, I said: "Oh yeah, this is me"
And I'm right here where I wanna be
I said: "Hell yeah! This is me"
Right where I'm supposed to be

So I took the road less travelled by
And I barely made it out alive
Through the darkness somehow I survived
Tough love, I knew it from the start
Deep down in my rebel heart

So I took the road less travelled by
And I barely made it out alive
Through the darkness somehow I survived
Tough love, I knew it from the start
Deep down in the depth
Of my rebel heart
Of my rebel heart
Of my rebel heart
Of my rebel heart

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #69 posted 02/21/15 10:33pm

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Again, although if you include all the leaked songs it might not seem so, there is a continuing theme of sin vs. salvation on this album, survival vs. obliteration. That's why I still find Madonna relevant, despite some detours... I will definitely go see this tour, if I get the chance.

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Reply #70 posted 02/21/15 11:38pm

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Just have to post this one because I absolutely love this song--this is the Madonna I want to hear:

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Reply #71 posted 02/22/15 2:29am

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purplethunder3121 said:

Again, although if you include all the leaked songs it might not seem so, there is a continuing theme of sin vs. salvation on this album, survival vs. obliteration.

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Reply #72 posted 02/22/15 2:30am

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purplethunder3121 said:

Just have to post this one because I absolutely love this song--this is the Madonna I want to hear:

This is one of my Top 5 favorites on the album.So many fans are saying they prefer the demo version,though.

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Reply #73 posted 02/22/15 4:37pm

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Reply #74 posted 02/22/15 9:29pm

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Q Magazine’s Review of Madonna’s “Rebel Heart” album

February 22nd 2015

“The lady protests too much on volatile 13th album”

You have to wait until the final track of Madonna’s 13th album, the grand, spiritual "Wash All Over Me", to get a clear summary of its modus operandi: “There’s a contradiction and I’m stuck here in-between.” The title of Rebel Heart splits down the middle. On one side, Madonna has said there’s the “romantic” who still believes in love despite numerous setbacks; on the other, the “renegade” with a compulsive need to transgress and provoke. The spotlight darts between the two.

It’s a neat concept but an unnecessary one because we know Madonna can fold those contradictions into a single song. On signature hits such as Like A Virgin, Like A Prayer and Justify My Love, the headline-grabbing stuff stemmed naturally from relationships. Similarly, her brilliant 2005 album Confessions On A Dance Floor collapsed the distance between the club and the confession booth. By insisting on an artificial divide, Rebel Heart intensifies the polarisation that made 2012’s MDNA such a bumpy ride. Again, it’s the romantic who delivers the goods.

In recent interviews, Madonna has challenged the popular image of her as calculating and imperious – an image, let’s be honest, that she has done much to construct. Ever since she was a tenacious club-scene striver, Madonna has emphasized unstoppability and control. But Rebel Heart often strikes a more tentative note. “If this is the end then let it come / Let it flow, let it wash all over me,” she sings, ceding control for once. With similar finality, the wonderful post-apocalyptic ballad "Ghosttown" proposes, “This world has turned to dust / All We’ve got left is love.” On the album’s most beautiful song, "Joan Of Arc", Madonna admits to being reduced to tears by the cruelty that comes with celebrity: “I can’t be your superhero right now / Even hearts made out of steel can break down.”

Vulnerability is Madonna’s underused secret weapon and it gives Rebel Heart compelling emotional urgency. Range, too. On "Living For Love", a kind of gospel-EDM I Will Survive, the “not gonna stop” defiance has real pain behind it. The tense, vengeful break-up song "HeartBreak City" is followed by the irresistible "Body Shop", a sweet eccentric garageland romance, beautifully produced by DJ Dahi and Blood Diamonds. You feel as if you’re zooming in on a complicated human being rather than an enduring megabrand.

For all these reasons, when Rebel Heart is bad, it’s truly baffling. It’s almost worth opening an official inquiry into the decisions that led to "B*tch I’m Madonna", where Diplo and Sophie’s ADHD production, Nicki Minaj’s say-nothing rap and Madonna’s naff, “I’m a bad bitch” declaration converge in a three-lane pile-up. "Unapologetic Bitch" is a cartoon dancehall jam. "Holy Water’s" thrillingly harsh Kanye beat is wasted on dumb lyrics like “Bitch, get off my pole.” Perhaps it’s down to genre mismatch. While house and disco liberate Madonna to be anything she wants, hip-hop boxes her into a persona that’s metallic, one-dimensional and, worse, boring.

Not all of the agressive tracks misfire – "Illuminati" has fun with the conspiracy theories attached to pop stars in the barmier corners of the internet; "Iconic" boshes together a Mike Tyson speech, a Chance The Rapper verse and a Nero-like dubstep drop – but the harder she rams home her point the less persuasive it is. In fact, paradoxically, the queen-bee declarations make her sound insecure. Madonna should not have to tell us she’s Madonna, nor what that means.

When you hit the bonus tracks, it’s worth skipping past the pointless ("Veni Vidi Vici", on which Nas raps about Nas) and the joyless ("S.E.X." is as blunt and flat as its title) to get to the movingly autobiographical title track, where Madonna reflects at length on her career, her motivation, and “all the things I did just to be seen”. It makes you wonder what she thinks she has to prove in 2015 with a song like "Bitch I’m Madonna" when she proved it all and we’ve been paying attention for years.

She sounds far more confidant and fully realized on the songs that favour uncertainty and fallibility, inviting the listener to lean in. After 33 years, the “renegade” does exactly what you’d expect. It’s when Madonna is opening her heart that she really rebels against expectations.

3 out of 5 stars

[Edited 2/22/15 21:51pm]

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Reply #75 posted 02/23/15 12:08pm

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Living for Love (Michael Diamond Remix) for Spotify has leaked. It is a fun little UK garage/2step style version.

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Reply #76 posted 02/23/15 5:00pm

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that's actually my favorite remix of the song
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Reply #77 posted 02/23/15 5:28pm

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Watch the Brit Awards 2015 Worldwide Live Stream

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Reply #78 posted 02/23/15 5:52pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

... what she’s doing, as a 56-year-old female in pop, is shifting the paradigm for what it means to be middle-aged. We’re all living longer lives, let this central part in our life become more abundant. Let’s look to Madonna as an example on how to express freely.

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BTW, I'll take this opportunity to note that I was still in high school when "Holiday" was a hit, yet I retired before Madonna did (or shows any sign of considering it)!! lol razz

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Reply #79 posted 02/23/15 7:30pm

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Billboard: "Living For Love" debuts at n 36 on BB Pop songs

http://www.billboard...ts-on-pop-songs

Madonna debuts on Pop Songs at No. 36 with "Living for Love," aided by concentrated on plays on several iHeartMedia-owned stations; for instance, WHTZ New York played it 19 times in the week ending Feb. 22, according to Nielsen Music, and KIIS Los Angeles spun it 16 times. She makes her 29th visit (dating to the chart's October 1992 launch) and first since 2012, when "Give Me All Your Luvin'," featuring Nicki Minaj and M.I.A., and "Girl Gone Wild" reached Nos. 24 and 38, respectively (sparked by notable plays at iHeartMedia; "Luvin' " aired hourly for nearly three days at the chain leading up to her Super Bowl halftime appearance that year).


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Reply #80 posted 02/24/15 2:27pm

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look who's on the next issue of Rolling Stone magazine! lol

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Reply #81 posted 02/24/15 8:00pm

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Reply #84 posted 02/24/15 9:14pm

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^ Tres cool

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Reply #85 posted 02/25/15 8:24am

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Reply #86 posted 02/25/15 12:05pm

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Madonna Tribe posted today that the tour will be announced next week! cool

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Reply #87 posted 02/25/15 12:53pm

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I love the Rolling Stone interview. I don't think she has ever commented on the ageism against her so well until now. I do think Ageism is just as bad as racism and homophobia. However, Ageism is just more accepted. You can criticize Madonna all you want, but don't make it about her age.

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Reply #88 posted 02/25/15 1:05pm

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Madonna returns to the cover of Rolling Stone in our latest issue (on stands Friday) giving her most revealing, introspective and fiery interview in years. In the in-depth Q&A with senior writer Brian Hiatt, Madonna discusses her real feelings about Lady Gaga, her marriage to Guy Ritchie, her relationship with Judaism, her assessment of Kanye West, her love for Whiplash and much more.

"I don't think she wants my crown," Madonna says, referring to Gaga. "We live in a world where people like to pit women against each other. And this is why I love the idea of embracing other females who are doing what I'm doing. . .The only time I ever criticized Lady Gaga was when I felt like she blatantly ripped off one of my songs. It's got nothing to do with 'she's taking my crown' or 'she's in some space of mine.' She has her thing. I do think she's a very talented singer and songwriter. It was just that one issue. And everybody's obviously running with it and turned it into a huge feud, which I think is really boring, quite frankly. And you know what? I don't care anymore. Here's the thing: one day everyone's going to shut up about it. You'll see! I have a plan. "

But Madonna, who will release her new album Rebel Heart on March 6th (read our review of the album here), reserves her most passionate and eloquent remarks for the topic of ageism, in pop writing and in society. "It's still the one area where you can totally discriminate against somebody," she says, "and talk shit. Because of their age. Only females, though. Not males. So in that respect we still live in a very sexist society."

"No one would dare to say a degrading remark about being black or dare to say a degrading remark on Instagram about someone being gay," Madonna continues. "But my age – anybody and everybody would say something degrading to me. And I always think to myself, why is that accepted? What's the difference between that and racism, or any discrimination? They're judging me by my age. I don't understand. I'm trying to get my head around it. Because women, generally, when they reach a certain age, have accepted that they're not allowed to behave a certain way. But I don't follow the rules. I never did, and I'm not going to start."

And if you're wondering if there was a message behind showing off her bare butt on the Grammys' red carpet: "This is what a 56-year-old ass looks like, motherfuckers!" she says. And to the suggestion that her awe-inspiring physique isn't exactly average, she retorts, "You know what? It could be the average some day! That's the thing."

"When I did my sex book, it wasn't the average," Madonna says. "When I performed 'Like a Virgin' on the MTV Awards and my dress went up and my ass was showing, it was considered a total scandal. It was never the average, and now it's the average. When I did Truth or Dare and the cameras followed me around, it was not the average. So if I have to be the person who opens the door for women to believe and understand and embrace the idea that they can be sexual and look good and be as relevant in their fifties or their sixties or whatever as they were in their twenties, then so be it."

Look for the issue on stands and in the iTunes App Store this Friday, February 27th.

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Reply #89 posted 02/25/15 1:08pm

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Rolling Stone review of 'Rebel Heart'

Rebel Heart

  • Rebel Heart
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BY CARYN GANZ February 25, 2015
Madonna

Madonna gets down with Kanye, Avicii and more on a supercatchy, sexed-up album

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For many years, Madonna avoided the Internet like gluten. But in December, the Internet decided to stop waiting for Madonna, and everything went wrong: Her music was stolen and leaked; her hasty, emotional responses on Instagram used terms like "rape" and "terrorism," provoking (you guessed it) Internet outrage. Her swift solution was to put six songs online immediately, with a promise that 13 more would follow in March. But some of those 13 new songs have turned what might have been a modern-day pop treasure into a diamond struggling to escape the rough.

Rebel Heart is a long, passionate, self-referential meditation on losing love and finding purpose in chilling times. It's also a chance for the Queen of Pop to floss a bit and reflect on how she painstakingly carved a path others have happily twerked down in the years since her 1983 debut. The über-fit 56-year-old star gleefully enunciates "bitch" on the refreshing, reggae-tinged "Unapologetic Bitch" and the frenetic, Nicki Minaj-assisted "Bitch I'm Madonna," both featuring Diplo's ear-tingling airhorn blasts. She quotes herself on three songs, calling back to iconic passages from "Vogue" and "Justify My Love" before whisper-rapping about her past hits in "Veni Vidi Vici."

The album opens with another kind of flashback — the classic-sounding house jam "Living for Love," a buoyant song about moving on after a breakup. The stellar "HeartBreakCity," meanwhile, is a dramatic plunge into post-relationship hell. The singer grappled with her divorce from Guy Ritchie on her past two albums, but now that she's back on the market, there are new fools to smack down.

Her co-pilots this time aren't the electro mavens who assisted on 2012's glossy MDNA nor the pop titans who lent a hand on 2008's dancier Hard Candy — they're trendier talents like Blood Diamonds and established hitmakers like Kanye West. Sometimes these collaborations gel perfectly, like on "Illuminati," West's grimy take on the Internet's favorite conspiracy theory, and "Devil Pray," where Avicii helps Madonna revive the strums-and-beats vibe of 2000's Music. And Minaj's verse on "Bitch I'm Madonna" is pure fire.

Unfortunately, cameos from Nas, Chance the Rapper and Mike Tyson don't elevate their respective songs. And Madonna lets her own appetite for over-the-top sex songs run wild on a handful of cringy tracks like "Holy Water" (an ode to oral sex featuring the unfortunate line "Yeezus loves my pussy best") and "S.E.X.," which spells out an unconventional list of bedroom aids including "chopsticks, underwear, bar of soap, dental chair."

The album is at its strongest when Madonna shoves everyone to the side and just tells it to us straight. So it's fitting that she wraps up the deluxe edition with the title track, recalling how she went from weird kid to narcissist to spiritual thinker over Avicii's bright, orchestrated production. Deep down, Madonna does have a rebel heart — and you can't fault her for reminding us that pop music is all the better for it.

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