At the upcoming BET Honors, Usher and Kanye West will be honored. Seriously BET.

Maybe they don't watch enough Unsung. The millenials need to know who's being sampled in their favorite songs, so why not honor some more of the old schoolers?

Name who you mean!

All the old timers were honored the first time around when there weren't even any hip hop award categories. Let Kanye West be honored.

As for Usher, he outlasted many artists from 1994 and remained vital and busy.

How about Maury Povich?

Cinny said:

Name who you mean!

All the old timers were honored the first time around when there weren't even any hip hop award categories. Let Kanye West be honored.

As for Usher, he outlasted many artists from 1994 and remained vital and busy.

*All* of them? I'll have to take a look at the list.

To clarify, my comments were partially tongue-in-cheek, but there has to be some inventory of some of the lesser celebrated but worthy old schoolers AND the likes of Kanye and Usher. Plus, BOTH artists have sampled old school artists (Kanye's a legendary crate-digger).

Not doubting the merits of either artist, really. Usher had one of the last great commercial mega-albums, and a long career, and Kanye is among the best musical artists of his generation (I'd say he agrees).

Cinny said:

Name who you mean!

All the old timers were honored the first time around when there weren't even any hip hop award categories. Let Kanye West be honored.

As for Usher, he outlasted many artists from 1994 and remained vital and busy.

If they want to go current, there's more recent artist that could have been honored before those two. Guys like R.Kelly and Raphael Saadiq have done more in the R&B world than Usher has. Guys like Rza, Pete Rock and DJ Premier have sampled better than Kanye.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Cinny said:

Name who you mean!

All the old timers were honored the first time around when there weren't even any hip hop award categories. Let Kanye West be honored.

As for Usher, he outlasted many artists from 1994 and remained vital and busy.

If they want to go current, there's more recent artist that could have been honored before those two. Guys like R.Kelly and Raphael Saadiq have done more in the R&B world than Usher has. Guys like Rza, Pete Rock and DJ Premier have sampled better than Kanye.

I think they're honoring artists who have gone pop

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Cinny said:

Name who you mean!

All the old timers were honored the first time around when there weren't even any hip hop award categories. Let Kanye West be honored.

As for Usher, he outlasted many artists from 1994 and remained vital and busy.

If they want to go current, there's more recent artist that could have been honored before those two. Guys like R.Kelly and Raphael Saadiq have done more in the R&B world than Usher has. Guys like Rza, Pete Rock and DJ Premier have sampled better than Kanye.

A guy like Pete Rock, he definitely deserve his props, that would be awesome.....DJ Premier is solid.......Usher has on the scene for 20 years, so he would be deserving, especially for his album 8701.........

but in general......I just really believe it's just about done with the music industry and I think the people associated with it behind the scenes know it too

R. Kelly has been a great artists throughout the course of his career, Saadiq aka Raphael Wiggins was a genuine artist.....both would be very deserving......

it's a visionary award. relax. he deserves it.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Cinny said:

Name who you mean!

All the old timers were honored the first time around when there weren't even any hip hop award categories. Let Kanye West be honored.

As for Usher, he outlasted many artists from 1994 and remained vital and busy.

If they want to go current, there's more recent artist that could have been honored before those two. Guys like R.Kelly and Raphael Saadiq have done more in the R&B world than Usher has. Guys like Rza, Pete Rock and DJ Premier have sampled better than Kanye.

Folks don't realize that Saadiq has been in the industry damn near 30 years now. He's well deserving of being recognized for his extremely long resume in the industry.

BET only care's about ratings. Their nominations and winners have always been geared for ratings and popularity.

How about Mint Condition over the both of these 2?

mjscarousal said:

BET only care's about ratings. Their nominations and winners have always been geared for ratings and popularity.

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Couldn't have said it better maself. That's the first thing I thought when I saw who they were honoring this year. I don't them, just seems a little too soon for both. No qualms with their accomplishments at this stage but they're both pretty young and have a lot of career left.

and dont forget they had 'bobby brown' honor usher, and kanye's speech included the classy statement about how his white wife use to date broke black men.