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Reply #30 posted 01/16/15 8:37am

datdude

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Figure out some way to keep Nirvana, Pearl Jam and every other grunge band that ruined rock and roll from forming.

eek Really?! Do tell (elaborate). I thought they were the talented innovators and pretty much everyone else copied them and ruined the "genre" so can u explain how u feel they ruined rock, most of their stuff qualifies as rock doesn't it. you're undoing some RRHOF'ers here!

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Reply #31 posted 01/18/15 2:04pm

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There'd be a Austin City Limits type show for tribute acts. PBS sometimes show these tribute band concerts for Pink Floyd and The Beatles during pledge week.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #32 posted 01/18/15 3:02pm

lowkey

mj would have never bought never never land, no sleep overs with kids and no accusations.

no nipplegate for janet

obviously we would include deaths but thats something we cant really take back.

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Reply #33 posted 01/18/15 3:26pm

SpaceInBetween

datdude said:

RodeoSchro said:

Figure out some way to keep Nirvana, Pearl Jam and every other grunge band that ruined rock and roll from forming.

eek Really?! Do tell (elaborate). I thought they were the talented innovators and pretty much everyone else copied them and ruined the "genre" so can u explain how u feel they ruined rock, most of their stuff qualifies as rock doesn't it. you're undoing some RRHOF'ers here!

Exactly...before Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and such, rock was ruled by shitty hair bands. I'll take Alice in Chains every fucking day over Cinderella and crap like that.

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Reply #34 posted 01/20/15 5:14am

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Figure out some way to keep Nirvana, Pearl Jam and every other grunge band that ruined rock and roll from forming.

totally agree with this..grunge took the fun out of rock n roll and basically killed it and the crap we see today is a direct result of it

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Reply #35 posted 01/20/15 5:15am

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SpaceInBetween said:

datdude said:

eek Really?! Do tell (elaborate). I thought they were the talented innovators and pretty much everyone else copied them and ruined the "genre" so can u explain how u feel they ruined rock, most of their stuff qualifies as rock doesn't it. you're undoing some RRHOF'ers here!

Exactly...before Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and such, rock was ruled by shitty hair bands. I'll take Alice in Chains every fucking day over Cinderella and crap like that.

i'll take the hair bands anyday over the boring depressing music that replaced it

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Reply #36 posted 01/20/15 7:46am

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SpaceInBetween said:




datdude said:



eek Really?! Do tell (elaborate). I thought they were the talented innovators and pretty much everyone else copied them and ruined the "genre" so can u explain how u feel they ruined rock, most of their stuff qualifies as rock doesn't it. you're undoing some RRHOF'ers here!



Exactly...before Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and such, rock was ruled by shitty hair bands. I'll take Alice in Chains every fucking day over Cinderella and crap like that.


the hair bands weren't that bad compared to the grunge crap that followed.


i'll take the hair bands anyday over the boring depressing music that replaced it

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Reply #37 posted 02/18/15 7:23pm

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Acts like Jackie Wilson & Sam Cooke would have had their concerts filmed.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #38 posted 02/18/15 8:12pm

SoulAlive

Disco and funk remained popular forever,even after the 70s ended
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Reply #39 posted 02/18/15 8:45pm

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SuperSoulFighter said:

I'd make sure the drum machine was never invented. [Edited 1/10/15 5:38am]

sad I like the drum machine. I would say that I'd make sure Autotune was never invented ill

AMEN! razz

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Reply #40 posted 02/18/15 8:59pm

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The movie that was announced in the mid 1980s starring The Time & Janet Jackson had been made. Supposedly the song You Need Me was written for it.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #41 posted 02/18/15 9:10pm

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Paul, George, & Ringo recorded some new songs for Anthology in addition to the John Lennon demos.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #42 posted 02/19/15 3:08am

datdude

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The movie that was announced in the mid 1980s starring The Time & Janet Jackson had been made. Supposedly the song You Need Me was written for it.

was the long form Control vid from that? never heard about this flick, any other info, sources u can share?

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Reply #43 posted 02/19/15 8:49am

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datdude said:

MickyDolenz said:

The movie that was announced in the mid 1980s starring The Time & Janet Jackson had been made. Supposedly the song You Need Me was written for it.

was the long form Control vid from that? never heard about this flick, any other info, sources u can share?

Some radio DJs said it at the time. I think it was said on Video Soul or some other show too. There were lots of things that were said on the radio, magazines, and TV that never came to be like Michael Jackson releasing a whole album of Beatles songs. That was between Victory & Bad. There was an interview Jimmy Jam did around Condensate where he talks about a movie. I don't know if it's the same one because he doesn't mention Janet.

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Let’s look back to 1990 and the Graffiti Bridge movie. How did the original seven members of The Time come to be involved with that project?

Let me try to clarify a little bit. There might be a misconception that we got back together to do the Graffiti Bridge movie. That’s absolutely not the case. What happened, Morris [Day] was working on a project with Prince. It was basically going to be more of a solo project. Prince was going to do the bulk of the writing and playing. I think it was going to be called Corporate World, but there were a few different names floating around at that point. Around that same time period, we had also been working with Morris on different projects and things. We thought, let’s get The Time back together and just make a record. So we got back together and started making an album. This was with Prince’s blessing, by the way. And we had our own idea for a film.

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What kind of film did you guys have in mind?

It was basically based on our own true story, rather than a fictional story. Purple Rain was a fictional story based in some truth, the whole backdrop of Minneapolis and the competition of the bands. The way that worked was very true and very well done in that movie. But we really wanted to make a film about our exploits on the road and some of the things that went on, because we had a great time on the road.

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How far did you guys get with this project?

We actually brought in someone to write a screenplay. We sat and talked with a couple of screenwriters, telling them the stories we thought were funny, letting them weave a storyline around it. We were in talks with Warner Bros. to do it. The next thing you know, literally out of the blue, Prince called us for a meeting at Paisley Park. And I remember we walked in thinking it was going to be about the movie — the movie we thought we were going to do. All of sudden it turned into Graffiti Bridge, and we were like, “What’s Graffiti Bridge?” Prince was like, “This is my movie.” And it was, you know, this girl and a feather. [laughs] It was like, “No, no, no — we’ve got our own ideas for a movie.”

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The Time still made a very successful album though, which includes some songs that were in the movie.

That’s the reason that, when everything was done, Pandemonium came out, which was basically our album. Then the Graffiti Bridge soundtrack came out, which had four of our songs on it. Just one soundtrack album probably would’ve made more sense. But it was because we were already doing our other things. We were like, “Okay, we’ll do your movie, Prince, but we’re still going to do our own album.” We were already on the path to do that.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #44 posted 02/20/15 8:25am

SoulAlive

^^I remember hearing about that planned movie starring The Time and Janet Jackson.It was being talked about in late 1986/early 1987.The idea was for The Time to reunite for a movie and Janet would be the co-star.In an interview from that period,Jesse Johnson confirmed that it was happening.

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Reply #45 posted 02/20/15 9:16am

SoulAlive

someone may have already said this.....

*The Beatles never broke up lol I always try to imagine how they would have evolved in the 70s.How would they have sounded during the disco era?

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Reply #46 posted 02/20/15 9:16am

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So, Prince put the kabosh on the Time/Janet Jackson movie, too... razz lol He's everywhere. hmm

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Reply #47 posted 02/20/15 9:17am

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SoulAlive said:

someone may have already said this.....

*The Beatles never broke up lol I always try to imagine how they would have evolved in the 70s.How would they have sounded during the disco era?

I'm glad THAT never happened. lol

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Reply #48 posted 02/20/15 9:26am

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SoulAlive said:

someone may have already said this.....

*The Beatles never broke up lol I always try to imagine how they would have evolved in the 70s.How would they have sounded during the disco era?

It isn't that hard to imagine when you had Paul McCartney and Wings through the 70s, and you know that Rolling Stones recorded songs like "Miss You".

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Reply #49 posted 02/20/15 9:28am

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Cinny said:

SoulAlive said:

someone may have already said this.....

*The Beatles never broke up lol I always try to imagine how they would have evolved in the 70s.How would they have sounded during the disco era?

It isn't that hard to imagine when you had Paul McCartney and Wings through the 70s, and you know that Rolling Stones recorded songs like "Miss You".

I really liked that one. Still do. wink

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Reply #50 posted 02/20/15 9:47am

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MickyDolenz said:

That women rock acts were taken more seriously.

Love this one!

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Reply #51 posted 02/20/15 9:49am

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SuperSoulFighter said:

^ Hey, you inspired me to do another one: Betty Davis would have become really big!

I was gonna come in to say this one. wink She deserves to be legendary! I wish she continued her music career at least long enough for us to get some live footage of her performances. lol I'm still hopeful there's some out there somewhere...

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Reply #52 posted 02/20/15 2:21pm

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Cinny said:

SoulAlive said:

someone may have already said this.....

*The Beatles never broke up lol I always try to imagine how they would have evolved in the 70s.How would they have sounded during the disco era?

It isn't that hard to imagine when you had Paul McCartney and Wings through the 70s, and you know that Rolling Stones recorded songs like "Miss You".

John Lennon liked the B-52's Rock Lobster, but that's not exactly disco. Maybe Whatever Gets You Through The Night could count and Wings' Goodnight Tonight & Silly Love Songs for sure. George appeared on a show called Disco. razz


You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #53 posted 02/20/15 2:53pm

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MickyDolenz said:

Cinny said:

It isn't that hard to imagine when you had Paul McCartney and Wings through the 70s, and you know that Rolling Stones recorded songs like "Miss You".

John Lennon liked the B-52's Rock Lobster, but that's not exactly disco. Maybe Whatever Gets You Through The Night could count and Wings' Goodnight Tonight & Silly Love Songs for sure. George appeared on a show called Disco. razz


I think that's the thing about the Beatles is it didn't leave room for the sounds coming from Ringo or George as much, so you would have to look at what Wings sounded like for an idea of Beatles in the mid '70s.

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Reply #54 posted 02/20/15 3:41pm

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Although I was a fan as a teenager at the time, I would change N.W.A. from meeting and becoming a seminal pioneer group of the "gangsta rap" movement. I believe gangsta rap to be a blemish and a downward turning point in the history of music and a contributing factor to the "thug life" mentality that exists today.

With that being said, I will still see the N.W.A. movie, I still enjoy their songs because of where I was in life at the time, and I have nothing but love for Dre, Cube, E-Z and the rest. Just looking back in hindsight as an adult and how the world might be a better placed today if they (as a group) never existed.

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Reply #55 posted 02/21/15 10:34am

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dannyd5050 said:

Although I was a fan as a teenager at the time, I would change N.W.A. from meeting and becoming a seminal pioneer group of the "gangsta rap" movement. I believe gangsta rap to be a blemish and a downward turning point in the history of music and a contributing factor to the "thug life" mentality that exists today.

With that being said, I will still see the N.W.A. movie, I still enjoy their songs because of where I was in life at the time, and I have nothing but love for Dre, Cube, E-Z and the rest. Just looking back in hindsight as an adult and how the world might be a better placed today if they (as a group) never existed.

I just think their absence would have made Too $hort even bigger. At least 2 Live Crew became passe.

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Reply #56 posted 02/21/15 10:49am

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The Geto Boys formed before N.W.A. and Ice T's first single came out in 1983, so there still would have been gangsta rap without N.W.A. The Geto Boys were from Houston, so they're independent of New York & LA.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #57 posted 02/21/15 12:44pm

lowkey

nwa was the start of everything thats wrong with rap music imo.

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Reply #58 posted 02/21/15 1:04pm

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lowkey said:

nwa was the start of everything thats wrong with rap music imo.

There's not that much of a difference in gangsta rap and what the Beastie Boys were doing on songs like Paul Revere, except that was in a cowboy western context. The Beasties also had women dancing in cages during the License To Ill era. Violence in music was not new to gangsta rap either. One of the most covered songs is the traditional Stag O Lee/Stagger Lee recorded by performers in many genres.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #59 posted 02/21/15 2:57pm

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Acts like Jackie Wilson & Sam Cooke would have had their concerts filmed.

sad What I wouldn't give to see just one concert of theirs. mad

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