ScarletScandal said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Prince deserves no mercy until he releases another good album

Shit, I deserve some mercy for listening to those horrible albums. Kanye isn't even a blip on my god damn radar anymore. He's like a Black Male Madonna...Unartistically provocative just to try to stay relevant, ruffle feathers, and draw attention to himself. Everything he does is like "Hey! Look at me!! Look what I'm doing or saying or wearing or eating or fucking or scratching now!!!"

And I absolutely REFUSE to listen to that "song". The fucking baby is gonna be sing next. Watch.

''i liked yeezus'' -Scarletscandel at gunsnhalens 2014 birthday party. I won't let you forget Mrs. Scarlet although as you said... library is always open. Even on yeezus season.

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Gunsnhalen said:

ScarletScandal said:

Shit, I deserve some mercy for listening to those horrible albums. Kanye isn't even a blip on my god damn radar anymore. He's like a Black Male Madonna...Unartistically provocative just to try to stay relevant, ruffle feathers, and draw attention to himself. Everything he does is like "Hey! Look at me!! Look what I'm doing or saying or wearing or eating or fucking or scratching now!!!"

And I absolutely REFUSE to listen to that "song". The fucking baby is gonna be sing next. Watch.

''i liked yeezus'' -Scarletscandel at gunsnhalens 2014 birthday party. I won't let you forget Mrs. Scarlet although as you said... library is always open. Even on yeezus season.

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Lol you have no proof I said that beyond your word

thisisreece said:

babynoz said:

Michael, Marlon, Tito, Jackie and Jermaine.

He didn't say the Jackson Five though....he meant MJ solo.

I know he meant Jackson solo. It was a bit off topic, but they're a hugely famous group and I know a lot of there songs, but I couldn't name them individually (okay, thinking about it, I knew Tito's name), and I'm sure that's the same for a lot of people with The Beatles.

Tito!


I am having a hard time wrapping my brain around the idea that the younglings don't know Paul McCartney though. Back in the olden days I was familiar with the big and even most of the not so big acts from my parents generation. Are people not playing their music for the kids any longer?

Gunsnhalen said:

babynoz said:

I would have had Kanye rap the verses and Paul sing a chorus. Shame that such a lovely song is so poorly crafted that it sounds thrown together at the last minute.

I have a feeling this won't be on the new album. IDK... Seems like a one off track too me. Which explains the rushedness of it i guess.

I think you might be right about that.

ScarletScandal said:

Gunsnhalen said:

''i liked yeezus'' -Scarletscandel at gunsnhalens 2014 birthday party. I won't let you forget Mrs. Scarlet although as you said... library is always open. Even on yeezus season.

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Lol you have no proof I said that beyond your word

I got audio recording. You were ballerina, i got the pictures, i seent you. I also have some video of it. You have your 2002 BET award in it.

Gunsnhalen said:

Cinny said:

I'm sure Paul McCartney's fans really want a song about Kanye's daughter sung by Eiffel 65.

Better than anything Igloo Asutralia black face has done

Militant said:

Does anyone else remember the Michael Jackson VS Beatles VS Elvis popularity thread we had here maybe 2 years ago?

In that thread, I maintained that Michael was more globally popular.

I got savagely attacked by a group of people in that thread who INSISTED that The Beatles were equally well known.

I pointed out that there's barely a country in the world you can go to where people don't know who Michael Jackson is, and the same can't be said about The Beatles.

Well, look at what we have here.

And this is in AMERICA, not parts of the world where a lot of people don't have access to Western media or much internet access.

I've been to some of those places and they damn sure know who MJ is. I bet every last one of these Twitter folks know MJ.


So my point is proven, really.

Oh dear. As a moderator, aren't you supposed to be intelligent enough not to fall for trolls? On here or anywhere else.

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Not a bad song, just wish there was more McCartney on it.

Gunsnhalen said:

ScarletScandal said:

Lol you have no proof I said that beyond your word

I got audio recording. You were ballerina, i got the pictures, i seent you. I also have some video of it. You have your 2002 BET award in it.

You said there was no film in that camera!!!!

Militant said:

rebelenterprise said:

Yeah bro...I believe they're definitely "trolling" cause some folks pulled the same stuff when Paul performed @ The Grammys in 2012...They know who he is. No way they don't, lol. Militant said:

Does anyone else remember the Michael Jackson VS Beatles VS Elvis popularity thread we had here maybe 2 years ago?

In that thread, I maintained that Michael was more globally popular.

I got savagely attacked by a group of people in that thread who INSISTED that The Beatles were equally well known.

I pointed out that there's barely a country in the world you can go to where people don't know who Michael Jackson is, and the same can't be said about The Beatles.

Well, look at what we have here.

And this is in AMERICA, not parts of the world where a lot of people don't have access to Western media or much internet access.

I've been to some of those places and they damn sure know who MJ is. I bet every last one of these Twitter folks know MJ.


So my point is proven, really.

Some are trolling for sure. I have seen people do the same for MJ. Saying they don't know who he is. or there was once a hashtag ''Michael Jordan was a singer"'' in refrence to MJ

yeah, we know Paul was a Beetle but he has not done shit worth mentioning for decades now - so blaming youngsters for now knowing who he is seems foolish to me

No way all those people are trolling. Some were, for sure. But clearly, the trolling wouldn't have worked if it weren't true to some level. So no, I didn't fall for anything.

Anyway, my friend, the bass player Steve Lawson wrote the following on the matter, it's very well written.

Really interesting to see the clumsy faux-exposition on the tautology of fame happening via people's thoughts on Kanye and Paul McCartney... Fame is a measure of how well known someone is. Not well known? Not famous. And it can be sliced demographically. No-one 'should' be famous. Fame doesn't work like that. It's an 'is' not an 'ought'.

So to the kids who've never heard of Paul McCartney, he isn't famous, so Kanye has quite literally made McCartney more famous to those who didn't know of him. The reverse is also true. Currently, there are huge parts of the human global population where Kanye is more famous than Paul McCartney, and that, friends, is fine.

There's no moral failing, no cultural malaise. There's no reason for kids whose listening is centred around current music (like all those people I went to school with who could name every member of Brother Beyond or Johnny Hates Jazz but didn't know who Miles Davis was) to know much about Paul McCartney. They're listening to pop music, not writing an essay on the history of western pop music.

But now maybe they'll dig his collab with Kanye and go check out his other stuff. Some of them will wonder WTF all the fuss is about, and some of them may end up massive Beatles/Wings/Frog Chorus fans. Maybe some of them will even check out The Fireman.

Meanwhile, some other people will probably hear Kanye for the first time and really dig his music. It's all OK.

If we'd had Twitter back then, the exact same conversation would've been reversed around the work of Asha Bhosle when Cornershop 'made her famous' to English kids with no Indian relatives. Right. Go look her up.

Stop pretending old white people are more deserving of acclaim than young black people. Y'all sound like mini-Adornos, snobbery dressed up as cultural critique.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I imagine the holidays are very rough for Kanye. It's the reason he didn't spend it with Kim & his daughter. This song is heartbreaking & very personal. Like 's "Another Lonely Christmas.

My poor baby ......Prince, not Kanye.

Militant said:

No way all those people are trolling. Some were, for sure. But clearly, the trolling wouldn't have worked if it weren't true to some level. So no, I didn't fall for anything.

Anyway, my friend, the bass player Steve Lawson wrote the following on the matter, it's very well written.

Really interesting to see the clumsy faux-exposition on the tautology of fame happening via people's thoughts on Kanye and Paul McCartney... Fame is a measure of how well known someone is. Not well known? Not famous. And it can be sliced demographically. No-one 'should' be famous. Fame doesn't work like that. It's an 'is' not an 'ought'.

So to the kids who've never heard of Paul McCartney, he isn't famous, so Kanye has quite literally made McCartney more famous to those who didn't know of him. The reverse is also true. Currently, there are huge parts of the human global population where Kanye is more famous than Paul McCartney, and that, friends, is fine.

There's no moral failing, no cultural malaise. There's no reason for kids whose listening is centred around current music (like all those people I went to school with who could name every member of Brother Beyond or Johnny Hates Jazz but didn't know who Miles Davis was) to know much about Paul McCartney. They're listening to pop music, not writing an essay on the history of western pop music.

But now maybe they'll dig his collab with Kanye and go check out his other stuff. Some of them will wonder WTF all the fuss is about, and some of them may end up massive Beatles/Wings/Frog Chorus fans. Maybe some of them will even check out The Fireman.

Meanwhile, some other people will probably hear Kanye for the first time and really dig his music. It's all OK.

If we'd had Twitter back then, the exact same conversation would've been reversed around the work of Asha Bhosle when Cornershop 'made her famous' to English kids with no Indian relatives. Right. Go look her up.

Stop pretending old white people are more deserving of acclaim than young black people. Y'all sound like mini-Adornos, snobbery dressed up as cultural critique.

It's a sad commentary on the state of "pop" culture as a whole, in that Warhol's 15 minutes of fame has become more important than anything else with the popularity of social media additions such as twitter,instagram, etc. on top of so called "reality" shows that make otherwise "regular" people famous for no real reason whatsover... Actually, it's more like 15 seconds of fame these days. And it seems that an over influx of information (much of it false or misleading) via new resources on the internet has only led to a greater acceptance of immediately posted information without verification of its authenticity IMO. The news media is a culprit as well. Who's "trending" today?! The public in general seems to have a shorter attention span these days. More information via the web is a double-edged sword--some can't even be bothered to "google" a topic. Any musical artist that can survive for decades in this type of environment is an anomaly; good luck to the younger ones if they can last as long as the "oldies."

1contessa said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I imagine the holidays are very rough for Kanye. It's the reason he didn't spend it with Kim & his daughter. This song is heartbreaking & very personal. Like 's "Another Lonely Christmas.

My poor baby ......Prince, not Kanye.

this song is heart breaking if you understand it...the reality of it ....i wish paul sang and kanye rapped...but i find it humanizes kanye even through that horrible horrible autotune. they make themselves into such cartoons, this made him much more human imo.

[Yeezy with Baby North]



Kanye shows his gentler side in the new video for his Paul McCartney-assisted single “Only One,” which he debuted on The Ellen DeGeneres Show this week.


Watch the video here

Awwwww!!!!! That is the cutiest celebrity baby ever...