I can't imagine he wouldn't be. Only question is, who would induct him.

I don't see how they can deny him. You KNOW Lauryn Hill is getting in.

scriptgirl said:

I don't see how they can deny him.

Just because you like him does not mean the voters at the Hall care about him

scriptgirl said:

MickyDolenz said:

That depends.

Is Al Greene inducted?

i dont know how this thought can be conjured up until the body of work gets deeper and his influence shows up in others...

I doubt that The Fugees or Lauryn would get in either. The Hall does not work from record sales, hits, or popularity. If that's the case, then Tone Loc, Journey, Richard Marx, Quiet Riot, Boston, NKOTB, and Wham! would be in.

terrig said:

i dont know how this thought can be conjured up until the body of work gets deeper and his influence shows up in others...

What do you mean? Percy Sledge got in for basically one song.

CynicKill said:

Is Al Greene inducted?

Yes he is

MickyDolenz said:

CynicKill said:

Is Al Greene inducted?

Yes he is

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There you go then

MickyDolenz said:

I read somewhere that the hall has a flawed system for induction.

There reasoning was the case of Cat Stevens, an artist that many felt was un-inductable (I don't know if this is a word or not. It's a thing I do sometimes) but they kept nominating him until finally he was inducted anyways. Same with RUSH. They felt that after a few times if you were nominated and not inducted that should be it, you are shut out of the hall.

CynicKill said:

I read somewhere that the hall has a flawed system for induction.

It's basically whoever they want to put in, with influence by Jann Wenner and the other founders, that's all. Jann is inducted himself. It's like if I started a museum and inducted myself. It's a Rolling Stone magazine based institution. I'm not sure why people take all of this so seriously. Being in a museum is not what rock n' roll was originally about, it was rebellion. A museum was for classical music or something.

MickyDolenz said:

terrig said:

i dont know how this thought can be conjured up until the body of work gets deeper and his influence shows up in others...

What do you mean? Percy Sledge got in for basically one song.

(I'm a D'angelo FAN) But how about explaining why he should be included? I mean you do have a point, and I think D is great and a adore BM and already have it on repeat, but wonder what makes him hall of fame worthy?

No way in hell are the Fugees getting in. For what?

D should be in because he created and was the face of neo soul. He also put a new face on 90s rnb.

Fugees?

Doubtful.

But Lauryn Hill...

Bill Withers will be inducted in 2015.

terrig said:

(I'm a D'angelo FAN) But how about explaining why he should be included? I mean you do have a point, and I think D is great and a adore BM and already have it on repeat, but wonder what makes him hall of fame worthy?

I'm not, but there really isn't much logic behind who is inducted, except that it's mainly geared towards boomer era classic rock acts like Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Lou Reed, & Ringo Starr or something that sounds like it like Stevie Ray Vaughn. Neo-soul has never really crossed over to the mainstream. Al Green at least crossed over. So there is less chance for neo-soul acts to be inducted. You don't see many country, prog, heavy metal, or electronic acts in the Hall either and they have a bigger audience than neo-soul. Neo-soul doesn't even get much play on the regular R&B/hip hop stations where you might hear Keyshia Cole instead. It was primarily on the "urban contemporary" radio stations, the R&B equivalent of adult contemporary, so not young, hip & cool. If you look at the R&B/hip hop singles charts of the last 10 years, how much of the Top 10 is neo-soul? Probably a small percentage. But I'm pretty sure you'll find a lot of Lil Wayne. If you go to Youtube, D'Angelo's highest viewed video has 5,644,754, which is a fan made video for a duet with Lauryn Hill. His highest actual video is 3,378,825 views for Untitled. But Psy, Nicki Minaj, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Pitbull, Miley Cyrus, etc has views of hundreds of millions for multiple videos. So that says to me that D'Angelo is a niche act with a smaller audience.

CynicKill said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

CynicKill said:

Fugees?

Doubtful.

But Lauryn Hill...

The Score > Miseducation

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Argueably.

I consider The Score as more of a covers album. In fact I came across a quote once that defined them as a very good cover band.

I'm old school that way and I call it The Kanye Affect. Sure it's great, but your success is a cheat. It's heavily influenced by the fact that the heavy lifting has been done for you. I know this is an unpopular opinion on this board but I know its split into two factions.

scriptgirl said:

No way in hell are the Fugees getting in. For what?

D should be in because he created and was the face of neo soul. He also put a new face on 90s rnb.

scriptgirl said:

D should be in because he created and was the face of neo soul.

Fred Durst was the face of nu-metal and Limp Bizkit is not likely to get in either

I say D'Angelo is probably a given on reputation alone, but if he puts out one more critically acclaimed album before 2020 then it's a no brainer.

terrig said:

Definitely not a "shoo-in".

People like Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails) or Robert Smith (The Cure) have not gotten in yet either. Both are far more imprortant names to modern rock music than someone that does almost exclusively R&B music. The reason why someone like Prince got in on the first round has a lot to do with his influence on rock and pop.

In terms of body of work, I am more about quantity. Sure, it would have been great if D had more cds out, but for me, I don't know, 3 albums, actually 4 if you count the live at the Jazz Cafe cd, which no one does (and why is that?), it just seems to fit somehow, I dunno. D is a very, very unique talent-I can't really articulate why he should be in all that well, but I would be shocked if he didn't.

If D'Angelo should get in, then so should Teddy Riley. New Jack Swing at least had some mainstream visability, which is most of the inductees, except maybe the early influence acts and behind the scenes folks. Bobby Brown basically put NJS on pop radio. Maybe people forgot, but Bobby was a big thing at the time (in the US) of Don't Be Cruel. You could say NJS influenced later R&B way more than neo-soul. New Jack really popularized hip hop influenced R&B to the mainstream, although it was there before. New Jack pretty much killed off the Rene & Angela/Freddie Jackson style acts on R&B radio and made Al B. Sure!, Keith Sweat & Levert popular. Some of the older acts made NJS records including James Brown, Aretha Franklin, Gap Band, and even Boy George and Sheena Easton. Michael Jackson's Dangerous was half new jack. Jam & Lewis/LA & Babyface were doing new jack songs and they were the in producers of the time. The Rolling Stones had Teddy do a remix for them (Love Is Strong). You could even say some of the stuff Prince was doing in the early 1990s was NJS influenced. A lot of hit R&B today has rap breaks instead of a guitar or sax solo. Bell Biv DeVoe & TLC became popular for that. Mariah Carey based most of her career on it. Mary J Blige's hip hop soul was an offspring of NJS. Then came singing rappers like Andre 3000, Lauryn Hill, & Nelly.