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KCOOLMUZIQ

Tank Quits Music & Says "Maybe I Should've Been Born White"

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Tank just went off on his Instagram account about the industry. The industry he says he's leaving. Apparently his latest project isn't selling well and he feels he's lacking support from the R&B community. And seemingly taking a slight shot at the blue-eyed soul singers like Adele, Sam Smith, Robin Thicke and the like, he said, "Maybe I should have been born white."

Peep his frustrations below:

If I look tired it’s because I am. I’m deeply saddened and disappoint that “Stronger” will not get a video or the continued promotion it deserves! I’d love to blame @atlanticrecords but that would be a lie! It’s tough for record companies to continue to fund music that people don’t support! I pride myself on giving you real musicianship, real singing, real lyrical content and being true to the music that inspired my very existence. The problem is there aren’t many people left that want to hear it or buy it and if there are they won’t stand up and be noticed! Who am I doing this for? Who am I maintaining this so called integrity for? Not many as u can tell by my first wk sales..lol. The artist that don’t give a fuck sale the most and do the most! Should that be my new route? Maybe I should have been born white then all of my music would go straight to mainstream and pop radio instead of urban ac.. A format that continues to kill the true R&B artist! (Not mad at white artist just to be clear!) What I do know is that i will not continue to be faithful to something or someone that is not being faithful to me. I love you but I have a family. I have a mom and dad just like you. I have goals and dreams just like you. I refuse to work hard for nothing. I look better, sing better, produce better, write better, and perform better than dam near everybody and this is the thanks I get?.. Again I’m not angry I’m just tired.. Please enjoy my last real R&B album “Stronger” cause you’ll never get another one! #letterfromTank

Looks like Tank is going through what Musiq Soulchild is going through. RnB is dying!!! Hopefully D'angelo can save it!!

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #1 posted 12/20/14 2:35pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

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Tank just went off on his Instagram account about the industry. The industry he says he's leaving. Apparently his latest project isn't selling well and he feels he's lacking support from the R&B community. And seemingly taking a slight shot at the blue-eyed soul singers like Adele, Sam Smith, Robin Thicke and the like, he said, "Maybe I should have been born white."

Peep his frustrations below:

If I look tired it’s because I am. I’m deeply saddened and disappoint that “Stronger” will not get a video or the continued promotion it deserves! I’d love to blame @atlanticrecords but that would be a lie! It’s tough for record companies to continue to fund music that people don’t support! I pride myself on giving you real musicianship, real singing, real lyrical content and being true to the music that inspired my very existence. The problem is there aren’t many people left that want to hear it or buy it and if there are they won’t stand up and be noticed! Who am I doing this for? Who am I maintaining this so called integrity for? Not many as u can tell by my first wk sales..lol. The artist that don’t give a fuck sale the most and do the most! Should that be my new route? Maybe I should have been born white then all of my music would go straight to mainstream and pop radio instead of urban ac.. A format that continues to kill the true R&B artist! (Not mad at white artist just to be clear!) What I do know is that i will not continue to be faithful to something or someone that is not being faithful to me. I love you but I have a family. I have a mom and dad just like you. I have goals and dreams just like you. I refuse to work hard for nothing. I look better, sing better, produce better, write better, and perform better than dam near everybody and this is the thanks I get?.. Again I’m not angry I’m just tired.. Please enjoy my last real R&B album “Stronger” cause you’ll never get another one! #letterfromTank

Looks like Tank is going through what Musiq Soulchild is going through. RnB is dying!!! Hopefully D'angelo can save it!!

Well i have seen letters and talk like this before, I can understand his gripe, though he needs to really lay the blame at the powers that be, blame your RB stations that cater to nothing but the teeny bop shit, RB males have really just become a "chris brown" "trey songz" type deal, for Hip Hop its a mess right now, but again people are buying it because its put out there 24/7, and yes there is even more INDIE crap too. Not sure what TANK can do, he hasnt sold anything in ages, if the RB community isnt supporting you , dont think you are gonna get top 40 play cause he never did. So lets see how long he quits


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Reply #2 posted 12/20/14 3:01pm

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What people fail to realize is that if you're selling these days you're extremely lucky. The numbers are low even for the people you've mentioned.

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Reply #3 posted 12/20/14 3:33pm

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I can't differentiate Tank's latest album from Timberlake's or Beyonce's last. Neither of whom make R&B records. Tank and his label are targeting the wrong market with their promotional dollars. The R&B crowd is not it.

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Reply #4 posted 12/20/14 3:48pm

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So his last album tanked, huh?

Sorry hrmph

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Reply #5 posted 12/20/14 4:48pm

Ego101

The Music Industry has been shit for a loooong time!

as Pac would say:

Keep ya head up, Tank.

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Reply #6 posted 12/20/14 4:57pm

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hah!

PANDURITO said:

So his last album tanked, huh?

Sorry hrmph

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Reply #7 posted 12/20/14 7:22pm

Identity

PANDURITO said:

So his last album tanked, huh?

Sorry hrmph






Corny...yes, but funny just the same!

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Reply #8 posted 12/21/14 12:00am

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Yeah because there are a ton of signed white R&B acts?? I read his whole spiel and it sounded like the crisis of a million artists that never got CLOSE to being signed to Atlantic, black or white. It's just a shit time to be an artist, and it was always an elusive gig. "Artist or entertainer????" TGT went number one I thought.
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Reply #9 posted 12/21/14 12:24am

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reading between the lines he's saying that white artists are shit.

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Reply #10 posted 12/21/14 1:16am

Scorp

what this man his highlighting is a situation that began 27 years ago

this is when everything took a change for teh worse

what he saying is that authenticity from all cultural backgrounds has been tapped into, exploited, and depleted

and he has reached the conclusion is the same one that I reached over 10 years ago

real R&B is gone, and has been so a long time ago...the industry knows it, so do the record companies, and commercial radio because they have robbed it of its virtue, leaving an artist like Tank frustruted, confused, angry, and voided

this is what happens when culture is wiped out

black music is long gone, it's over.......that's what this man is saying and seeing for himself

I see it and feel it every single day

just like TANK, there will be plenty of other artists who reached this same conclusion

and this is why I say, a distinction or anything association to full scale pop obliterates and has obliterated the full musical spectrum

ironically, the very thing the majority of artists are encouraged to seek is the very thing that has destroyed music and its core

it's all over....done.....the industry knows its over, but will try and earn every dollar it can get, down to the very last dollar before it all collapses

[Edited 12/21/14 1:21am]

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Reply #11 posted 12/21/14 2:29am

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He is a talented guy. But he sounds like he is crying like a baby. And he even if he is good, he is no game changer, and his music though some of it is pretty good, he doesn't blow my mind.

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Reply #12 posted 12/21/14 4:45am

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You know something? Mr. Scarface predicted that by the year 2020 at the very least, hip-hop/rap & r&b will be mostly white. Thus far, I think he may be right.

And the real bad news is that black folks in general (yes, myself included) has NOT invented a new genre within black music in quite a long while.

[Edited 12/21/14 9:09am]

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Reply #13 posted 12/21/14 5:30am

Scorp

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You know something? Mr. Scarface predicted that by the year 2020 at the very least, hip-hop/rap & r&b will be mostly white. Thus far, I think he made be right.

And the real bad news is that black folks in general (yes, myself included) has NOT invented a new genre within black music in quite a long while.

why is Scarface right?

because everything is eventually geared towards earning pop distinction, rather it's done consciously or subconsciously

Pop framework has never acknowledged the culture that brought forth the music it has benefited from.....it excoriates, takes, and leave it barren, not just by those outside of a particular culture, but by those from within also

even with Hip-Hop/Rap...as far back as 1978, the forefathers who crafted it in NYC warned if Rap was ever presented commercially, the intent in which it was crafted would be destroyed

as of 2014, we don't have a culture, we just have a memory of one, that's why no new distinct genre has been generated in the past 35 plus years

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Reply #14 posted 12/21/14 5:36am

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i'd never heard of him... just listened to some of his stuff... meh

while i feel for all artists due to the state of the industry, this sounds like a dummy spit to me

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Reply #15 posted 12/21/14 5:46am

KCOOLMUZIQ

UPDATE [12/20/14]:

Looks like Tank has had a change of heart. The Stronger singer now says he's NOT leaving the music industry, he's simply coming up with a new sound. Oh Tank....

photo tanknotquit.jpg

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rolleyes Apparently his rant DIDN'T last long! His manager or label must of got on him about his rant for ATTENTION. I actually like his new song "Stronger". It's the BEST I ever heard from him, including the songs he wrote & produced for other artist. Maybe he should have given it to his very close friend Jamie Foxx(whose in his own controversy accused of stealing his last single which was pulled)

Speaking of Jamie! Don't you think he has had a stellar career?! Hit Tv series,Oscar winning roles, & a very successful muziq career. He is a rarity that doesn't happen much. Like his musical idol prince.....

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #16 posted 12/21/14 5:48am

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TonyVanDam said:

You know something? Mr. Scarface predicted that by the year 2020 at the very least, hip-hop/rap & r&b will be mostly white. Thus far, I think he made be right.

And the real bad news is that black folks in general (yes, myself included) has NOT invented a new genre within black music in quite a long while.

eek

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #17 posted 12/21/14 6:02am

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norbertslimeball said:

reading between the lines he's saying that white artists are shit.

Basically. That's the disturbing part.

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Reply #18 posted 12/21/14 6:36am

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No one is checking for tank anymore. He hasn't made good music in decades! maybe that's why he isn't selling. Your album is shit, your music is shit, your music is boring. I don't understand this white r&b thing at all. Besides Thicke & Timberlake... what white artists are big in r&b? i'll wait...

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Reply #19 posted 12/21/14 9:05am

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It's not his or the labels fault
The majority of r&b/soul fans don't buy music anymore
At least the ones that I know don't purchase the music
Folks like us who go out and buy the music are in the minority
The average listener doesn't.
They get their music from either through a bootleg or streaming
The illegal market is the reason r&b as we know it is dying
If tomorrow, the fans went out and purchased the music
The labels would turn around
You can't blame the labels for putting little to no $ into these artists
There's no return on investment
The Adele's and the Timberlakes get he big budget because they actually sell records.
Their music appeals to more than just the r&b crowd
A crowd that actually buys music.
Hence the reason the artists on major labels try to water their music down in hopes of a crossover audience.
I think thats what he means by saying he wish he was white.

Yeah crossover ain't nothing but a double cross
But until things change, it will only get worse for these artists.
Time for a new business model for r&b music.
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Reply #20 posted 12/21/14 9:08am

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revolution75 said:

It's not his or the labels fault
The majority of r&b/soul fans don't buy music anymore
At least the ones that I know don't purchase the music
Folks like us who go out and buy the music are in the minority
The average listener doesn't.
They get their music from either through a bootleg or streaming
The illegal market is the reason r&b as we know it is dying
If tomorrow, the fans went out and purchased the music
The labels would turn around
You can't blame the labels for putting little to no $ into these artists
There's no return on investment
The Adele's and the Timberlakes get he big budget because they actually sell records.
Their music appeals to more than just the r&b crowd
A crowd that actually buys music.
Hence the reason the artists on major labels try to water their music down in hopes of a crossover audience.
I think thats what he means by saying he wish he was white.

Yeah crossover ain't nothing but a double cross
But until things change, it will only get worse for these artists.
Time for a new business model for r&b music.
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minor keys and drugs don't make a rollerskate jam
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Scorp said:

TonyVanDam said:

You know something? Mr. Scarface predicted that by the year 2020 at the very least, hip-hop/rap & r&b will be mostly white. Thus far, I think he made be right.

And the real bad news is that black folks in general (yes, myself included) has NOT invented a new genre within black music in quite a long while.

why is Scarface right?

because everything is eventually geared towards earning pop distinction, rather it's done consciously or subconsciously

Pop framework has never acknowledged the culture that brought forth the music it has benefited from.....it excoriates, takes, and leave it barren, not just by those outside of a particular culture, but by those from within also

even with Hip-Hop/Rap...as far back as 1978, the forefathers who crafted it in NYC warned if Rap was ever presented commercially, the intent in which it was crafted would be destroyed

as of 2014, we don't have a culture, we just have a memory of one, that's why no new distinct genre has been generated in the past 35 plus years


Actually, I'm convince he was/is right because black artists had sold out once time too often. Not to mention how many times in music history that black musical genres (TRANSLATION: musical genres that were invented by black/Afican people) have been hijacked and compromised. neutral

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Reply #22 posted 12/21/14 9:59am

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Blame whitey...seems to be the theme of 2014.

Never heard of this guy, never listen to his music. I'm assuming his music is bland as water, yet he wants to place blame....sound familiar?

Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #23 posted 12/21/14 10:07am

babynoz

God, I hate social media....every immature fuckwit believes they need to tell the world whatever garbage comes into their stupid brain. disbelief

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #24 posted 12/21/14 10:08am

KCOOLMUZIQ

Gunsnhalen said:

No one is checking for tank anymore. He hasn't made good music in decades! maybe that's why he isn't selling. Your album is shit, your music is shit, your music is boring. I don't understand this white r&b thing at all. Besides Thicke & Timberlake... what white artists are big in r&b? i'll wait...

rolleyes

Tank wrote & produced many hits, for many artist, including his very close friend Jamie Foxx. Don't underestimate his gift and talent, for your own selfish reasons. Also there is more whites now big in rnb then blacks. Come back when you know what your talking about.. rolleyes

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #25 posted 12/21/14 11:31am

Identity

Would someone be so kind as to post a list of the "hits" Tank has written either for others or himself, please?

Judging from the unvaried garbage on Urban Radio, RNB would suck even more if there wasn't quality singers like Sam Smith in the genre.

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Reply #26 posted 12/21/14 12:05pm

CynicKill

Identity said:

Would someone be so kind as to post a list of the "hits" Tank has written either for others or himself, please?

Judging from the unvaried garbage on Urban Radio, RNB would suck even more if there wasn't quality singers like Sam Smith in the genre.

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But would Sam Smith had sold had he been black?

Or Adele?

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Reply #27 posted 12/21/14 12:44pm

duccichucka

Gunsnhalen said:

No one is checking for tank anymore. He hasn't made good music in decades! maybe that's why he isn't selling. Your album is shit, your music is shit, your music is boring.


My thoughts exactly, Guns. Tank is boring as fuck and isn't saying or doing anything musically
that any male R&B artist hasn't done before.


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CynicKill said:

Identity said:

Would someone be so kind as to post a list of the "hits" Tank has written either for others or himself, please?

Judging from the unvaried garbage on Urban Radio, RNB would suck even more if there wasn't quality singers like Sam Smith in the genre.

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But would Sam Smith had sold had he been black?

Or Adele?

It's not guaranteed that Adele would get the right "muscle" if she was not a priviledged white woman. Being backed by the best producers. best promoting team, best musicians, MONEY, rich loyal listeners that actually buys music... but it's all just assumption. But I guess it's something there isn't it?

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Reply #29 posted 12/21/14 1:23pm

CynicKill

I really liked this one:

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And wasn't TGT successful?

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