HuMpThAnG said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Re-Think your life, delete account, and pray to all GODS.

I knew this was gonna happen

sorry HuMpThAng you've released the beast.

JoeTyler said:

Cinny said:

Be Here Now is crap

ATWIAD only makes sense with the b-sides (superior than the material which made the album)

Lovesexy is a good album on its own, but a total disappoinment as the follow-up to SOTT

Be Here Now i can understand. Didn't read the rest. Cause you didn't write anything after

Gunsnhalen said:

HuMpThAnG said:

I knew this was gonna happen

sorry HuMpThAng you've released the beast.

no problem

Gunsnhalen said:

JoeTyler said:

Be Here Now is crap

ATWIAD only makes sense with the b-sides (superior than the material which made the album)

Lovesexy is a good album on its own, but a total disappoinment as the follow-up to SOTT

Be Here Now i can understand. Didn't read the rest. Cause you didn't write anything after

meh, I'm GLAD nobody mentioned the LoveSymbol album

JoeTyler said:

lastdecember said:

ZooRopa- U2 not to bash on them because their new record is one of my tops of the year. But zooropa is why you shouldnt rush and record while on MEGA tours. This album was a HUGE HUGE mistake and almost ended this band.

aboslutely false

Absolutely correct. Zooropa and Pop, the albums most derided by U2's fans are, in fact, superlative.

Gunsnhalen said:

JoeTyler said:

Be Here Now is crap

ATWIAD only makes sense with the b-sides (superior than the material which made the album)

Lovesexy is a good album on its own, but a total disappoinment as the follow-up to SOTT

Be Here Now i can understand. Didn't read the rest. Cause you didn't write anything after

Actually makes sense now in the context of "follow-ups"

Zooropa is a masterpiece.

Cinny said:

Everyone saying Emancipation

No kidding. Utterly ridiculous.

jasminejoey said:

Cinny said:

Everyone saying Emancipation

No kidding. Utterly ridiculous.

Thank you.

728huey said:

Terrence Trent D'Arby - Neither Fish Nor Flesh

Terrence Trent D'Arby exploded onto the pop/R&B scene in the late 1980's due to his album Introducing the Hardline According To Terrence Trent D'Arby which contained the hit singles "Wishing Well" and "Sign Your Name." But on his next album the success went to his head, and he released a set of incohesive tracks that frustrated listeners who liked his earlier pop sound.

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To this day, "Neither Fish Nor Flesh" is one of my desert island's albums.

Maybe for the mainstream it was a disappointing album but to me it was a work of genius and a very rude artistical move.

The world was waiting a "Introducing... Part II" and instead came this. Wow.

Cinny said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Be Here Now i can understand. Didn't read the rest. Cause you didn't write anything after

Actually makes sense now in the context of "follow-ups"

yeah, I can see the point... but if I would go by the follow-up context, then I'd have to say Purple Rain, at least at first listen

I vividly remember rushing home from the record store, nervously putting it on the turntable ("hey, that's purple vinyl? and a poster! cool..." ) and listening to both sides non stop. and at the end I was more like.. what the fuck was that??

I was expecting another 1999, loaded with Minnepolis funk & synth jams... but PR was not that.... needless to say it grew, and the second spin was already a bit different, I already liked a bunch of songs.... and after 4 or 5 spins I started to realise that was some great, great stuff.

however, I still rank 1999 slightly higher than PR

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***This Kind Of Lovin' by The Whispers (1981)---Something strange must have been going on at Solar Records in 1981.The Whispers were on a roll in the 80s,which began with their late-1979 self-titled album.The follow up,Imagination was another big album,with the massive hit "It's A Love Thing".But when 1981 rolled around,they released the lackluster This Kind Of Lovin' album.The title track is superb and rightfully became a hit.But there's nothing else on the album that's nearly as good.This feels like an album of leftover "reject" songs from the past few albums.Oddly,it was produced by The Whispers themselves.

Quincy Jones 'Q's Jook Joint' (1995)---I feel terrible about having to include a Quincy Jones album on this thread,but to me,this album was a disaster.My favorite Quincy Jones album has always been 1981's The Dude.It's a pleasant,delightful album that features well-written songs sung by the likes of James Ingram and Patti Austin.Unfortunately,somewhere along the way,Quincy became obsessed with rappers.On Q's Jook Joint,he takes his obsession to the extreme.There's an awful remake of the Brother's Johnsons' classic "Stomp",featuring several rappers completely ruining the track.Classic jams don't need to be "updated" like that.There are some credible guest stars on the album (Stevie Wonder,Bono,Gloria Estefan) but the whole thing feels like a bloated,overproduced,overcrowded affair,with songs that don't really flow well together.It's too bad that Quincy can't produce a simple,uncluttered masterpiece like The Dude anymore.

alphastreet said:

I think Invincible is underrated but it was probably the album structure and single choices that affected it. Can you imagine the impact had sings like 2000 watts and whatever happens were released?

I think the problem with this album is,the uptempo songs really weren't that great.

The slower tracks and ballads are fine ("Heaven Can Wait","Break Of Dawn","Cry","Speechless","Butterflies","Whatever Happens"....all good songs).

Michael really should have used the tracks that Pharrell presented to him (especially "Rock Your Body").This album needed some strong uptempo jams to go along with the superb slow jams.

Rick James 'The Flag' (1986)---Rick has always been one of my favorites but let's face it,he was slipping a bit in the mid-80s.The previous album,1985's Glow,wasn't bad at all.It had several good tracks.Unfortunately,on the follow-up album,Rick seemed as if he was running out of ideas.The album is an oversynthesized mess,with many of the tracks sounding alike.He was feuding with Motown at the time and this was the final album of his contract.I don't know if he purposely handed them an uninspired album,but The Flag is a huge disappointment.

SoulAlive said:

Quincy Jones 'Q's Jook Joint' (1995)---I feel terrible about having to include a Quincy Jones album on this thread,but to me,this album was a disaster.My favorite Quincy Jones album has always been 1981's The Dude.It's a pleasant,delightful album that features well-written songs sung by the likes of James Ingram and Patti Austin.Unfortunately,somewhere along the way,Quincy became obsessed with rappers.On Q's Jook Joint,he takes his obsession to the extreme.There's an awful remake of the Brother's Johnsons' classic "Stomp",featuring several rappers completely ruining the track.Classic jams don't need to be "updated" like that.There are some credible guest stars on the album (Stevie Wonder,Bono,Gloria Estefan) but the whole thing feels like a bloated,overproduced,overcrowded affair,with songs that don't really flow well together.It's too bad that Quincy can't produce a simple,uncluttered masterpiece like The Dude anymore.

that was not just "some rappers" on Stomp.... that was Melle-fucking Mel! blasphemy! also Yo-Yo was on there I think

and "Rock with You" was graced by the late great Heavy-fucking-D! bow down bitches...

I've said it before and I'll say it again, seriously.... I truly enjoyed this joint same goes for Soul Bossa Nostra

and Q working with rappers? that goes back a long time, he had rap on The Dude title track in 1981 (!) when no one else was paying attention to the young upcoming genre (and the rap partially was even based on the old Moneyrunner soundtrack ten years earlier...)

and of course Q was fully into rap by the time of on Back On The Block.

also he always had cohorts of guest stars from many genres on his albums, way before The Dude.

And remaking your own songs/standards years and decades later, even multiple times? that's common procedure in Jazz circles, nothing special.

so no, I blame him for nothing. I just enjoy the outcome. very, very much

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Earth Wind & Fire - Electric Universe

no explanation needed

Dancing On The Ceiling - Lionel Richie

Dancelot said:

Earth Wind & Fire - Electric Universe

no explanation needed

for real