I want her to go have another bebe

This box set looks good, but though she's still a good performer, she was past her prime onstage years ago, beyonce experience, sasha and the 4 concerts in NY were her best shows singing and dancing wise. She's maintained herself well, and as much as I wanted to support her current tours, I refrained from it cause was already spoiled earlier. Having said that, I liked the MTV performance recently, but the tours are different now and not tight like before.

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Cinny said:

I am used to the stereo version, as that was the copy my mom had (it's mine now! ) but I picked up the Mono box set on CD and I didn't notice that! I mostly listen to disc one of White Album though.

Now that I think about it, Vee Jay released Introducing The Beatles. Then they released the same songs on a double album with The Four Seasons called Battle Of The Century. Then Capitol put out Meet The Beatles! which was almost the same as Introducing, except 2 songs were changed. So that's 3 versions of the same album. Then there are the US albums that are different than the UK, and there are some albums that doesn't exist in other countries.

MickyDolenz said:

Cinny said:

I am used to the stereo version, as that was the copy my mom had (it's mine now! ) but I picked up the Mono box set on CD and I didn't notice that! I mostly listen to disc one of White Album though.

Now that I think about it, Vee Jay released Introducing The Beatles. Then they released the same songs on a double album with The Four Seasons called Battle Of The Century. Then Capitol put out Meet The Beatles! which was almost the same as Introducing, except 2 songs were changed. So that's 3 versions of the same album. Then there are the US albums that are different than the UK, and there are some albums that doesn't exist in other countries.

I think UK and US and Japan pressings are a little different than this trend of reissuing hit albums in the same region.

Cinny said:

MickyDolenz said:

In the 1980s, the cassette version of an album sometimes had extra songs added to it that were not on the LP.

Walking With A Panther comes to mind: two bonus tracks on the CD , and four bonus tracks on the cassette.

Even this I recognize is largely due to the space available on single cassette, CD, and vinyl - not the current trend of reissuing.

Cinny said:

I think UK and US and Japan pressings are a little different than this trend of reissuing hit albums in the same region.

Introducing/Battle/Meet are from the same country though.

MickyDolenz said:

Cinny said:

I think UK and US and Japan pressings are a little different than this trend of reissuing hit albums in the same region.

Introducing/Battle/Meet are from the same country though.

Oh word?????????????????? In Canada, I was under the impression that they were created for different regions.

Honestly... i can't hate on this too much. This doesn't compare to the Katy Perryacalypse of 2010-2012. 5 singles in 2 years, then a re-release with new singles. She milked that album till the titty was dry and dead.

Cinny said:

MickyDolenz said:

Introducing/Battle/Meet are from the same country though.

Oh word?????????????????? In Canada, I was under the impression that they were created for different regions.

Capitol Records (the US branch of Parlophone) declined to release The Beatles stuff in the US. They didn't think it would sell as British acts didn't have much success before. So other labels like Vee Jay & Swan released The Beatles' records instead. Vee Jay was primarily known for R&B and blues records and it was a black owned label. They were the ones who released Introducing & the album with The Four Seasons. When these records became really popular, Capitol decided to sign the group, and so released Meet The Beatles. When The Beatles had several songs in the US Top 10 at the same time including the entire Top 5, they were from different labels.

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Gunsnhalen said:

Honestly... i can't hate on this too much. This doesn't compare to the Katy Perryacalypse of 2010-2012. 5 singles in 2 years, then a re-release with new singles. She milked that album till the titty was dry and dead.

I think they are just doing this because there isnt going to be an album for a bit. I didnt really like this album at all, i bought later on after the whole hysteria that she was a genius of marketing died down, but i traded in a few weeks later because it bored the shit out of me. I mean she is talented can sing, perform, but just she is so freaking boring now, her and mariah need to go bowling and come up with something interesting fast.

Graycap23 said:

Identity said:

Beyonce Announces Platinum Edition Box Set
November 04


Get the details here

Repackaged..............

With two new songs, "7/11" and "Ring Off", a live DVD and a booklet.

Identity said:

Graycap23 said:

Repackaged..............

With two new songs, "7/11" and "Ring Off", a live DVD and a booklet.

I'll pass..............unless it's free.

I highly doubt the Rihanna collab. Don't they still have beef? since Jay-Z was fucking Rihanna.

I am not sure why some of ya'll want Beyonce to be this artistic artist and innovative performer when she is not and never will be. Beyonce is a brand period.

We have Janelle Monae, Jack White etc for artistry and sincerity. So why rely on Beyonce? She is not the best of the best out now.

She does not want to take risks or take time off to grow as artist, so why expect that from her?

This is how she markets her brand, oversaturation nothing new.

I already got it on 180G vinyl (unofficial without DVD)...this is a pleasant treat for the holidays. Not sure If I'll go this far though

mjscarousal said:

I am not sure why some of ya'll want Beyonce to be this artistic artist and innovative performer when she is not and never will be. Beyonce is a brand period.

We have Janelle Monae, Jack White etc for artistry and sincerity. So why rely on Beyonce? She is not the best of the best out now.

She does not want to take risks or take time off to grow as artist, so why expect that from her?

This is how she markets her brand, oversaturation nothing new.

Jack White..........I keep seeing this name pop up.

I need 2 check him out.

mjscarousal said:

I am not sure why some of ya'll want Beyonce to be this artistic artist and innovative performer when she is not and never will be. Beyonce is a brand period.

We have Janelle Monae, Jack White etc for artistry and sincerity. So why rely on Beyonce? She is not the best of the best out now.

She does not want to take risks or take time off to grow as artist, so why expect that from her?

This is how she markets her brand, oversaturation nothing new.

THIS.

I feel like having target practice tonight AND somebody needs to give this ho the attention she so craves.

mjscarousal said:

I am not sure why some of ya'll want Beyonce to be this artistic artist and innovative performer when she is not and never will be.

let's take a moment to laugh at "artistic artist".

Anyway, she is and always will be. You just don't like it (because you're an idiot). which is fine.

What's really funny is that nobody was trumpeting Beyoncé in here. You just had to come in and spew because MJ and Janet are dead.

Beyonce is a brand period.

Yep. A mighty successful one. Business and artistry are not mutually exclusive either. See the term "music industry".

We have Janelle Monae, Jack White etc for artistry and sincerity.

I love how this one small comment exposes your limited scope, elitism, and stupidity all at once.

So why rely on Beyonce?

The only one relying on Beyoncé is you, hence you checking for everything she does so diligently. Everyone else has sense. The market constantly searches for quality product and Beyoncé constantly delivers it.

She is not the best of the best out now.

Evidently she is since you feel the need to say that she is not when NOBODY AROUND even said that she was this time. Hell, the last page has been and endless, pointless discussion on who was the first to re-release an album.

But lemme tell you right now: She's the best. Now and forever. FUME! BURST INTO FLAME! AHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!

She does not want to take risks

see each and every one of her solo albums, especially BEYONCÉ and even Dangerously in Love (which the record company said had no hits; also, she was nervous to releas...y in Love"). The thing about Beyoncé is her risks usually pay off massively which makes them not look like risks in hindsight, especially to people who think being a flop is a requirement for ~~*trUe ArtiStrY*~~.

or take time off to grow as artist,

see the year-long break she took in 2010.

Also an artist does NOT have to take to time off to grow. That BULLSHIT You get better at something by working at it. Ever heard of the 10,000 Hour Rule? Beyoncé has probably put in 100,000 hours by now and that's why she's an expert. These other bitches sit on their fat asses or lay on their backs getting fucked for tracks and that's why they're behind.

so why expect that from her?

Cause she delivers it

This is how she markets her brand, oversaturation nothing new.

Beyoncé hasn't put a promotional push behind anything since 2011. YOU'RE oversaturated because you check for her all the goddamn time so you can incoherently rant, rave, and ramble. As you'll likely do in response to this post if you don't run to the predicable "stan, delusional, whatever" argument.

100%

What?! No one's interested in the Robin Thicke "brand" anymore?

katamari said:

Not when she had an extensive year of promo with the Super Bowl, performing for President Obama, H&M clothing advertisements, commercial advertisements, interviews, are you kidding me? She had a shit load of promo that year and overexposure that year. It was a safe move because she waited till everyone released their album before she did. You stans are hilarious.

mjscarousal said:

Not when she had an extensive year of promo with the Super Bowl, performing for President Obama, H&M clothing advertisements, commercial advertisements, interviews, are you kidding me? She had a shit load of promo that year and overexposure that year. It was a safe move because she waited till everyone released their album before she did. You stans are hilarious.

Sure lots of "exposure" (I sure wasn't a stan on the last thread about that), but I didn't see any of that media hoopla connected to promoting her new song(s). Surprise album was a nice way of saying "songs no one knows yet", and you can be sure that was a risk.

Musicslave said:

Cinny said:

mjscarousal said:

Not when she had an extensive year of promo with the Super Bowl, performing for President Obama, H&M clothing advertisements, commercial advertisements, interviews, are you kidding me? She had a shit load of promo that year and overexposure that year. It was a safe move because she waited till everyone released their album before she did. You stans are hilarious.

Sure lots of "exposure" (I sure wasn't a stan on the last thread about that), but I didn't see any of that media hoopla connected to promoting her new song(s). Surprise album was a nice way of saying "songs no one knows yet", and you can be sure that was a risk.

You really want to pretend Beyonce is not overexposed?

If she was taking a risk why did she leak Grown Woman and Flawless to test which song could be a potential single last summer? The whole album drop over itunes was definitly a calculated well thought out plan because her camp knew there was no sure singles after the songs they tested failed. If you think it was a risk fine.... but I don't.

mjscarousal said:

Cinny said:

Sure lots of "exposure" (I sure wasn't a stan on the last thread about that), but I didn't see any of that media hoopla connected to promoting her new song(s). Surprise album was a nice way of saying "songs no one knows yet", and you can be sure that was a risk.

You really want to pretend Beyonce is not overexposed?

I was arguing in the other thread that she should take a break because of the threat of overexposure, but Superbowl, Obama, H&M, interviews, Jay-Z and baby headlines weren't promoting any single.

mjscarousal said:

Cinny said:

Sure lots of "exposure" (I sure wasn't a stan on the last thread about that), but I didn't see any of that media hoopla connected to promoting her new song(s). Surprise album was a nice way of saying "songs no one knows yet", and you can be sure that was a risk.

You really want to pretend Beyonce is not overexposed?

If she was taking a risk why did she leak Grown Woman and Flawless to test which song could be a potential single last summer? The whole album drop over itunes was definitly a calculated well thought out plan because her camp knew there was no sure singles after the songs they tested failed. If you think it was a risk fine.... but I don't.

It was a risk, especially if you believe that the "the songs they tested failed". The album is now a hit.

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Musicslave said:

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Takeawhaa??? Now, you know that's another language for that girl

Do you think reversed psychology would work

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Hell na!

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Preview

Beyonce heads to the gutter. Minaj is a worthless, subhuman, concrete-elephant-assed skank who makes me wish for the death of major record labels. It's absolutely coming soon.

New sizzling video for "7/11". YTube

mjscarousal said:

Cinny said:

Sure lots of "exposure" (I sure wasn't a stan on the last thread about that), but I didn't see any of that media hoopla connected to promoting her new song(s). Surprise album was a nice way of saying "songs no one knows yet", and you can be sure that was a risk.

You really want to pretend Beyonce is not overexposed?

If she was taking a risk why did she leak Grown Woman and Flawless to test which song could be a potential single last summer? The whole album drop over itunes was definitly a calculated well thought out plan because her camp knew there was no sure singles after the songs they tested failed. If you think it was a risk fine.... but I don't.

exactly people always say RISK but there is no real risk if you are established and especially if i can go anywhere and see your face and hear your name. NO RISK at all, you can say it was something different to try and challenging to her thats fine but people attach RISK as a new hype word.

Even a band like the FOO FIGHTERS who's new album "Sonic Highways" being recorded all over using alot of OLDTIME musicians that are far from the mainstream and doing a documentary series about it, and paying for it out of his own pocket (Dave Grohl) that is, and they are an indie band, HE doesnt say the word RISK. Because he has been in this industry for 25 years now, he and that band have been going for 20 they have sold almost 30 million world wide, the new album has already sold a million worldwide in a week, but as he called it "I have to do new things to challenge myself" that is more what any of these artists are doing when they try something a little different.

So NO RISK for Beyonce what could happen to her? she is not a new artist funding her work, she already has a huge base following, so what is the RISK? critics wont like it? shit critics have hated every move BON JOVI have made for 30 years, and yet they have sold more than 150 million albums and if there next album was a fucking reggae album, that WOULD NOT BE A RISK.