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Thread started 09/18/14 4:53pm

mikemike13

On Diana Ross and Mahogany (Cuepoint)

Years later I realized that Mahogany was more camp than classic, but as teenagers both Virgie and I had both fell for the Windy City rags to high-fashion riches story. Chronicling the rise and loves of Tracy Chambers (Diana Ross), a South Side girl who dreams of life outside her Chicago tenement, the film follows an aspiring fashion designer from who falls for a local politician (Billy Dee Williams), is discovered as a model by a crazy photographer Sean McAlvoy (Anthony Perkins) and becomes a fashion sensation in Europe.

Throughout the film, Mahogany’s saccharine instrumental theme music “Do You Know (Where You’re Going To)” played dramatically. At the end of the picture, Diana Ross finally broke through through the sugary grooves and sang: “Do you like the things that life is showing you, where you’re going to / Do you know?”

Like something out of a romantic comic strip, the storyline was straight-up corny. Even as a kid, when she left the grandeur of Europe to return to the grime of Chicago to be with Billy Dee Williams, the love-struck ending got on my nerves. But the real story was about chasing your dreams, aspiring higher, making your life better and escaping the ghetto.

For the rest of this story: https://medium.com/cuepoi...6ee37224d6

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Reply #1 posted 09/20/14 11:37pm

SoulAlive

Mahogany was a major flop and the critics hated it,but I like it lol I think it's a good movie.Diana Ross has a charming screen presence and the theme song ("Do You Know Where You're Going To") is a classic.

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Reply #2 posted 09/20/14 11:44pm

SoulAlive

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Reply #3 posted 09/21/14 7:44am

CynicKill

It was a flop but it's now a classic. It's commonly described as a bad movie we love. It's actually pretty good and I think Berry Gordy did a very good job directing. Where he learn that at?

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Reply #4 posted 09/23/14 10:53am

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I don't know I always had misgivings at the ending. As a kid I loved it. It made you fall in love with Rome and she went back to her first love Billy Dee Williams.

As I got older I said wait a minute you kiss fame and fortune goodbye to go back to poverty and unemployment. Hmmm if that was me I stay where I'm at. I'll get over Billy Dee besides you know he was going to have a hard time dealing with her success anyway.

But the underlying message never dies:

"Success is nothing unless you have someone to love to share it with"

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Reply #5 posted 09/23/14 2:25pm

TD3

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That movie was horrible, horrible, horrible...

No, it didn't make my its so bad its good list either. The only saving grace was the theme song... which wasn't written for the freakin' movie. lol Thelma Houston recorded "Do You Know Where You're Going To", two years prior.

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Reply #6 posted 09/23/14 3:14pm

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TD3 said:

That movie was horrible, horrible, horrible...



No, it didn't make my its so bad its good list either. The only saving grace was the theme song... which wasn't written for the freakin' movie. lol Thelma Houston recorded "Do You Know Where You're Going To", two years prior.




The theme song was not the original recording? Wow didn't know that. I assume that's why it wasn't nominated for an Academy Award for best song that year.
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Reply #7 posted 09/23/14 4:18pm

CynicKill

It was nominated.

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Reply #8 posted 09/23/14 7:40pm

SoulAlive

TD3 said:

That movie was horrible, horrible, horrible...

No, it didn't make my its so bad its good list either. The only saving grace was the theme song... which wasn't written for the freakin' movie. lol Thelma Houston recorded "Do You Know Where You're Going To", two years prior.

That happened alot on Motown: songs would be recorded by one artist,it would flop,and then it would become a huge hit for someone else,a few years later.

Even "Love Hangover" was recorded by two other artists (Sylvester and The Fifth Dimension) before Diana got her hands on it.

and speaking of Thelma Houston....her own big hit "Don't Leave Me This Way" was actually recorded by Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes two years earlier.

This kind of stuff rarely happens today.When a song flops,it doesn't seem to get a second chance,lol.

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Reply #9 posted 09/23/14 7:44pm

SoulAlive

TD3 said:

That movie was horrible, horrible, horrible...

No, it didn't make my its so bad its good list either. T

Oh come on,TD3 we know you love this movie lol You saw it at the theatres in late 1975...sitting in the theatre,drooling over Billy Dee Williams,LOL

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Reply #10 posted 09/23/14 11:16pm

TD3

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SoulAlive said:

TD3 said:

That movie was horrible, horrible, horrible...

No, it didn't make my its so bad its good list either. T

Oh come on,TD3 we know you love this movie lol You saw it at the theatres in late 1975...sitting in the theatre,drooling over Billy Dee Williams,LOL

What are you doing up as this un Godly hour soul?. lol

No, I didn't. Thank goodness cable wasn't around back in the day or the net. Cuz sister would have heard it through the grapevine and I do what I do now. Wait. lol But you know "Black" movies didn't come around all that often back-in-the-day and yeah, I saw it with friends.

I don't know if you remember the hype around the movie or the drama. Gordy had it in his mind he could direct/produce. Nay, that movie was bad... the actors were good but they couldn't save that awful script.... my God bad. lol

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Reply #11 posted 09/26/14 1:19am

SoulAlive

the scene where she's in the car with Anthony Perkins and he's driving all crazy,asking her to pose for him...LMAO lol

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Reply #12 posted 09/27/14 2:47pm

Ottensen

teee heeee....always enjoyed the camp of Mahogany. From my own work perspective I think they actually captured the fashion industry grind aspect rather well, although Tracey's story wouldn't necessarily represent everyone's story in the game...but it certainly would represents some lol

Camp aside, where they missed the mark entirely was the fairytale ending of Tracey returning back to the 'hood to Billy Dee....as an expat...for real, for real... that is just not going to happen (unless there are extenuating legal circumstances or something popping off with someone's family). lol

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