Destiny & Triumph are excellent albums but sadly unsung
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adjective \ˌən-ˈsəŋ\ : not given attention and praise that is deserved for doing good things
The Jacksons' best output. It's crazy that these two albums are not celebrated similar to the likes of Stevie Wonder's Innervisions & Songs in the Key of Life, Marvin Gaye's What's Going On & Let's Get It On, MJ's Off The Wall & Thriller, and Janet's Control & Rhythm Nation 1814 in the music world. They are only known for the Motown hit singles and a couple of singles on Epic.
Destiny and Triumph are R&B gems that are tremendously underrated. The Jacksons disography overall is completely overlooked. They are definitly two unsung albums for sure! I find myself listening to Triumph more though.
They're two wonderful albums without a doubt, and true team efforts, although I've also always had a perverse fondness for Victory (oi, don't judge). The entire J5/Jacksons catalogue is very solid though, with and without Michael.
They're two wonderful albums without a doubt, and true team efforts, although I've also always had a perverse fondness for Victory (oi, don't judge). The entire J5/Jacksons catalogue is very solid though, with and without Michael.
I also kinda like what I've heard of "2300 Jackson Street" though many on here claim that to be the worst Jacksons album next to "Victory" whih was more of a big disappointment than an actual bad album (too many slow jams and not enough uptempo, danceable "victorious" songs).
I also kinda like what I've heard of "2300 Jackson Street" though many on here claim that to be the worst Jacksons album next to "Victory" whih was more of a big disappointment than an actual bad album (too many slow jams and not enough uptempo, danceable "victorious" songs).
It's generally 'Michael only' fans who say that because they do not like the other siblings, especially on a Michael site. Nothin' was a Top 10 R&B hit.
You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
I also kinda like what I've heard of "2300 Jackson Street" though many on here claim that to be the worst Jacksons album next to "Victory" whih was more of a big disappointment than an actual bad album (too many slow jams and not enough uptempo, danceable "victorious" songs).
It's generally 'Michael only' fans who say that because they do not like the other siblings, especially on a Michael site. Nothin' was a Top 10 R&B hit.
Dang mayne, you've been answering my questions, tying up loose ends, and providing info for me left and right today!
That's a shame though. Many people need to realize that Michael wasn't the only talented person from the Jackson family.
It's generally 'Michael only' fans who say that because they do not like the other siblings, especially on a Michael site. Nothin' was a Top 10 R&B hit.
Dang mayne, you've been answering my questions, tying up loose ends, and providing info for me left and right today! That's a shame though. Many people need to realize that Michael wasn't the only talented person from the Jackson family.
It's generally 'Michael only' fans who say that because they do not like the other siblings, especially on a Michael site. Nothin' was a Top 10 R&B hit.
Dang mayne, you've been answering my questions, tying up loose ends, and providing info for me left and right today! That's a shame though. Many people need to realize that Michael wasn't the only talented person from the Jackson family.
I think Destiny and Triumph are their finest albums--both are underrated gems which is a shame. I really like Destiny but I LOVE Triumph more! That's my favorite Jackson album. It's a classic that really displayed the talents of every brother
Pardon my bluntness, but I don't think any mj fan can truly appreciate his artistry without acknowledging the rawness of these amazing albums, as well as the other two before it. One can still appreciate the brothers without being fanatics of them like with these albums, they are mj's blood the end of the day despite shortcomings, what they've done in their creative period here on these albums is magical and can only come from brotherly love.
They're two wonderful albums without a doubt, and true team efforts, although I've also always had a perverse fondness for Victory (oi, don't judge). The entire J5/Jacksons catalogue is very solid though, with and without Michael.
I also kinda like what I've heard of "2300 Jackson Street" though many on here claim that to be the worst Jacksons album next to "Victory" whih was more of a big disappointment than an actual bad album (too many slow jams and not enough uptempo, danceable "victorious" songs).
2300 Jackson Street might indeed be the worst (at least if the count the J5 stuff separately), but that doesn't make it a bad album. The other brothers weren't mere passengers to Michael - Jermaine had a good string of pop and R&B hits and the other brothers contributed to a lot of the songwriting on Destiny/Triumph/Victory.
I just saw them at the Hardwick Live festival here in England. They can still put on a great show.
I think it isn't all that surprising Destiny and Triumph are slept on these days. I especially love Destiny, it's a more-than-solid record. But I can see how it would be overlooked for the sake of other soul albums that were coming out in the same timeframe, one of which was MJ's Off The Wall.
I do think the lingering popularity of the hit singles off these two albums, 'Blame It On The Boogie', 'Shake Your Body', and 'Can You Feel It?' -which remain guaranteed floor-fillers- is a testimony to the excellence of the music.
I bought these albums when close to the same age mj was when they were released, though I knew some of the singles for many years cause of the radio and mj vhs releases I had. It was a fresh departure from "king of pop mj" though I would constantly play the epic solo stuff as well, it definitely felt like a switch. And that Jacksons Live album is some raw shit that needs to be released on blu ray.
Some interesting comments on another forum regarding this topic. Do you guys agree with these statements?
I don't understand who's more to blame for these albums being overlooked--lazy music critics or The Jacksons themselves. In many cases, artists have to keep mentioning their work to make people aware of it, and sometimes they have to shove it down the public's throat like The Beatles do to keep it relevant.
The Jacksons have to become more active in promoting their catalogue, because most music critics are idiots and casual fans typically roll with the tide anyway. With that said, it's a shame both these albums are forgotten; even r&b music critics never mention them.
I totally agree with what you said, however there seems to be a lack of respect by The Jacksons themselves towards their own body of work vs their Motown stuff...I love the J5, but The Jacksons and Michael Jackson took it to another level when they signed to Epic...
I don't understand who's more to blame for these albums being overlooked--lazy music critics or The Jacksons themselves. In many cases, artists have to keep mentioning their work to make people aware of it, and sometimes they have to shove it down the public's throat like The Beatles do to keep it relevant.
The Jacksons have to become more active in promoting their catalogue, because most music critics are idiots and casual fans typically roll with the tide anyway. With that said, it's a shame both these albums are forgotten; even r&b music critics never mention them.
The Beatles and their songs are more well known than The Jacksons'. Yesterday is one of the most covered songs since the record business began. The Jackson 5 crossed over more to Top 40 than The Jacksons did. R&B acts usually don't get the same attention from the general public and record labels like classic rock (ig. Pink Floyd). R&B doesn't get the extravagant reissues and a lot of the albums are out of print except maybe in Japan.
I totally agree with what you said, however there seems to be a lack of respect by The Jacksons themselves towards their own body of work vs their Motown stuff...I love the J5, but The Jacksons and Michael Jackson took it to another level when they signed to Epic...
On the local oldies and oldies R&B stations I hear J5 songs more than Jacksons. The only Jacksons songs I hear played are Shake Your Body, Enjoy Yourself, and Heartbreak Hotel and every once in awhile Show You The Way To Go. But none of those get the same amount of play as I Want You Back. So if the J5 songs get more attention, then I suppose the group would focus more on those. Even Michael always did a J5 medley but on later tours there were fewer Jacksons songs.
You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
The Jacksons was a group of young MEN playing funk/rock/disco/ballads
the Jackson 5 was music for toddlers + some ballads with adult lyrics that felt totally out of place when singed by a KID
my opinion, of course
I understand though I disagree. However I do find myself listening to more Jacksons' songs than J5 songs lately. They're more appealing and silky smooth to the ears.
Love these albums. Great stuff on both. As great as anything Michael did on his own.
I caught the Jacksons show (Jermaine, Jackie, Marlon, and Tito) a few weeks ago and was pleasantly surprised to hear them sing the full "Push Me Away".
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