So, when's that new album coming out? "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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KCOOLMUZIQ said:
She definitely has the clout now to negotiate a deal. With her new wealth that is. She reminds me of Diana Ross, who married into a huge fortune and is set the rest of her life!!! [Edited 9/19/14 8:53am] She should definitely try to get her A&M masters now. BlackCat1985 | |
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As a long time Janet fan I have always felt that Janet didn't really feel the need to be famous. Had Control not have been successful I truly believe that Janet would have been happier living a life like her older sister Rebbie. You never see Janet brag are really compliment herself. She doesn't feel that she is an Icon or Legend and that's what I find so endearing about her. With success like hers most artist would throw it in your face. She doesn't! BlackCat1985 | |
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but it can be frustrating for her fans at times. its like her accomplishments are overlooked until these anniversary write ups come along and reminds everybody.its great to have folks like jimmy jam and missyelliot on twitter,they are card carrying fan club members lol | |
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who knows. there was one rumor from a uk source saying she was planning to release something around christmas timebut of course nobody confirmed it | |
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At the end of the day she is still an artist whether she is famous or not and she still has fans that want to hear music from her. She could at least do a anniversary special or make a behind the scenes special on her iconic albums even if she didn't want to make anymore music. You have to keep your fans entertained otherwise they will lose interest. | |
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She is retired.....it's over
she knows the music industry is toast.....
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"Get up off that grey line" | |
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nothing that indicates this is truthful - notice how none of you can provide an example of how this is the case. | |
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nothing that indicates this is truthful - notice how none of you can provide an example of how this is the case. Lol! Have you not been paying attention the last 10 years? BlackCat1985 | |
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amen
the indutry knows compared to 1814
the majority of the music being cranked out by contemporary female artists and music in general is trash...... | |
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Exactly. Janet is the reason half these new pop chicks even have careers, and yet you barely see her mentioned in pop artist countdowns, or mentioned as the one who opened the doors for your Britneys, your Gagas, and Beyonces and your Ciaras, etc. The biggest and most obvious one of all is that, in seven years of elligibility, she hasn't garnered even one RNR HOF nomination, nevermind the fact that she's not even in there. "Get up off that grey line" | |
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Love this album, it is her best start to finish and very consistent in sound, vocals, subject matter, edge, visual imagery etc. I bought it in the late 90's actually but fell in love with it instantly though I already knew the hits, hearing it in full was a different experience. She and the team made even mj turn heads, now that's admirable!!!
I liked reading about the story behind the creation of The Knowledge, that's brilliant. Same with Miss You Much, made me think of how she walked into the room at the beginning of the video, quite like how she did before hitting that musical note.
I do agree she deserves more credit, and it's nice she's getting props for 25 years in quite a few places the last few days. I wonder if this means the album is on the way though I'm okay with or without it. I feel like the older generation who was around and fans give this album way more credit than mainstream or the younger generation of music listeners overall though, and I hope it changes. I recently heard Zendaya was giving it credit to this album so that was nice to hear about.
Everyone says it was the best selling of 1990 and it's interesting hearing about accounts here, but it's also unfamiliar to me cause as others have said, other artists were bigger in different parts of the world at the time this was happening and I am outside the US so I can relate to that. I do remember her being popular though in the 90's and 00's cause that's when I became a huge fan and it's unfortunate the media is downplaying that. I watch old footage of fans, even in the all for you era, people were nuts about her, I can't help but wonder where they all are.
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There are plenty of fans still nuts for her and she has an amazing amount of young fans in their late teens/early twenties... I saw her perform in 2011 and I must have been one of the oldest in the audience. I spoke to a couple of young fans who were gushing on about her dance skills and how they had waited their whole lives for that one chance to see her at last... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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just imagine all the other artists who were prominent that year in 1990
MC Hammer
Paula Abdul
New Kids on the Block
Mariah Carey's debut
Vanilla Ice
Milli Vanilli (even though they were lyp synching the whole time)
all those artists, w/MC Hammer selling like wildfire
and Janet stood at the top....
there's no way Rhythm Nation only sold 14 million copies as Billboard has claim
Control sold that much......I'm sure 1814 sold over 20 million copies if she stood above everyone mentioned above.....
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^Outside the US this album wasn't that big as janet. though, in fact most of the singles charted poorly in the UK. 20 million is definitely unlikely! | |
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LiveToTell86 said: ^Outside the US this album wasn't that big as janet. though, in fact most of the singles charted poorly in the UK. 20 million is definitely unlikely! I agree it was mainly North America and Japan where rn did well, janet era was definitely bigger. | |
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the UK is not the only country on the planet....
She broke attendance records in Japan for a debut solo tour with Rhythm Nation....
Control charted from 1986 to 1987 and sold 14 million
Rhythm Nation remained on the charts for three calender years from 1989 to 1991
she got shunned at the 1990 Grammys when they gave 2 Grammies to Milli Vanilli....best new group, best pop album and had to yank it back from them when they found out they were lyp synching all that time......GIRL YOU KNOW IT'S, GIRL YOU KNOW IT'S.....
don't know why they were so shocked...
I knew the industry was in trouble then........
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She really does. She has a lot of young fans more than what people give her credit for. | |
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Scorp said:
just imagine all the other artists who were prominent that year in 1990
MC Hammer
Paula Abdul
New Kids on the Block
Mariah Carey's debut
Vanilla Ice
Milli Vanilli (even though they were lyp synching the whole time)
all those artists, w/MC Hammer selling like wildfire
and Janet stood at the top....
there's no way Rhythm Nation only sold 14 million copies as Billboard has claim
Control sold that much.....I'm sure 1814 sold over 20 million copies if she stood above everyone mentioned above.....
Actually I heard those artists in 1990, didn't hear janet at all though if I did, I was unaware it was her. If rn sold a large amount, it was definitely not in that year. In the late 90s they were saying janet album was her best selling at 10-15 million worldwide so it's impossible it's that high though it's possible overtime. As I said, it varied around the world, mj and Madonna and among the kids, new kids on the block were still very popular and dangerous had sold way more than rn where I live though in the us, it was almost the same amount [Edited 9/20/14 12:49pm] | |
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Her JANET lp sold way more than 10-15 million
that album sold 22-25 million world wide
that album remained on the charts for 3 calender years also and during that period, she starred in Poetic Justice in 93
when she released ANYTIME ANYPLACE a year after its release, that's what really brought it home, and that took it well into 1995
most albums dont' chart that long
by 1993, New Kids were toast, they tried to flash back up as NKOTB
Madonna was walking in oblivion......justifying her love
MC Hammer was about to go gangsta...the funky headhunter in 94
VAnilla Ice went Ninja Turtle and couldn't sell a record.....crash landing
Paula Abdul pretty much stopped making records
Milli Vanilli became Rob and Fab(rice)........done
only person who remained was Mariah Carey
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Scorp said:
Her JANET lp sold way more than 10-15 million
that album sold 22-25 million world wide
that album remained on the charts for 3 calender years also and during that period, she starred in Poetic Justice in 93
when she released ANYTIME ANYPLACE a year after its release, that's what really brought it home, and that took it well into 1995
most albums dont' chart that long
by 1993, New Kids were toast, Madonna was walking in oblivion.....
MC Hammer was about to go gangsta
VAnilla Ice went Ninja Turtle and couldn't sell a record
Paula Abdul pretty much stopped making records
Milli Vanilli became Rob and Fab(rice).....done
only person who remained was Mariah Carey
[Edited 9/20/14 13:02pm] I remember mentions of her during janet era though I think it's higher than late 90s for sure now. The rn sales in the same way accumulated overtime too. Madonna was not liked in the us but in canada and around the world was still having hits. I'm not from the US so I'm giving my account of who was popular at the same time in a different context. Also agree new kids were done after 91, but there were dolls of them in 1990 and madonnas come bra became iconic. Janet didn't have a rhythm nation doll though she could have and deserved to, but I'm sure the same fashion effect happened here with that as you talked about on a smaller scale. RN went platinum where I'm at, and over 6 times in the US. Forever your girl outsold control and rn too and paula was more popular as well during rn over here, as well as those washed up rappers lol she was really big during janet era though, and once again during all for you. [Edited 9/20/14 13:15pm] | |
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This is my favorite Janet album and era. Everything about it was really original and daring for a female pop artist at the time. I love that she became a super star singing about political issues while fully clothed. I notice artists like Janelle Monae tries to replicate this formula but nobody can top Janet when she did it. This era and album is the essential blue print of a female pop star Icon. She did not allow her record label to control her and was not intimated by her older brother. She became a super star in her own right and I love and respect her for it! This is a solid album and I love all the songs on it. My favorite music videos are Alright, Miss You Much, The Knowledge and Rhythm Nation. | |
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Wow!!!!!
will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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"Get up off that grey line" | |
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"Get up off that grey line" | |
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Kim Fields dressed as a RN-era Janet in an episode of "Living Single"
Keri Hilson paid tribute to the RN video in her "Pretty Girl Rock" video
RN novelty
RN "Hello Kitty"
Fan dressed in RN garb
impersonator dressed as a RN-era Janet
fan wearing a RN tour jacket
RN-era comic book
Rihanna in Rhythm Nation-esque garb RN Mickey Mouse
RN wax statue at London's Rock Circus
Cookie Johnson giving Rhythm Nation realness at a 2013 Halloween party
Drag performer Coco Montrese as a Rhythm Nation-era Janet on RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE
The late Selena in a Rhythm Nation outfit (she loved Black Cat) Nasty/Rhythm Nation performed on GLEE "Get up off that grey line" | |
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UK is the 2nd biggest market for English-singing acts and RN1814 wasn't huge in the rest of Europe either. For a long time the best estimate for worldwide sales was doubling the amount she sold in the US so that would be 14 million. RN1814 is never mentioned among the best selling albums worldwide, janet. is because of That's The Way Love Goes & Whoops Now that were big hits in markets where Janet wasn't so huge in the 80s.
Anyway, I just listened to the album and it's still awesome, definitely one of a kind and current acts could only dream of recording something like this! | |
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