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Reply #30 posted 09/19/14 8:14am

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So, when's that new album coming out? lol

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Reply #31 posted 09/19/14 12:06pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:



Musicslave said:




lowkey said:



the record label owns the masters. some artists are able to gain ownership of their own masters after awhile. janet should own her virgin masters as of last year, her contract called for her to own them 7 years afterher contract expires. her virgin contract expired in 2006, she shouldhave got control of her masters in 2013. i dont know about the a&m masters but i doubt she will get them since she didnt have any clout when she got her deal with them, matter fact joe got her a&m deal without her even knowing about it.



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Truth. This is what I was referring to except I got the label wrong. It was her Virgin deal where she negotiated her masters, not A&M.


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You're right about the timing of the A&M deal. She wasn't the hot commodity she became with Virgin back then. I wonder if she ever tried to get those masters though.


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Speaking of masters, its going to be interesting to see what Prince does with his cool



She definitely has the clout now to negotiate a deal. With her new wealth that is. She reminds me of Diana Ross, who married into a huge fortune and is set the rest of her life!!!

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She should definitely try to get her A&M masters now.
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Reply #32 posted 09/19/14 12:14pm

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As a long time Janet fan I have always felt that Janet didn't really feel the need to be famous. Had Control not have been successful I truly believe that Janet would have been happier living a life like her older sister Rebbie. You never see Janet brag are really compliment herself. She doesn't feel that she is an Icon or Legend and that's what I find so endearing about her. With success like hers most artist would throw it in your face. She doesn't!
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Reply #33 posted 09/19/14 4:57pm

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BlackCat1985 said:

As a long time Janet fan I have always felt that Janet didn't really feel the need to be famous. Had Control not have been successful I truly believe that Janet would have been happier living a life like her older sister Rebbie. You never see Janet brag are really compliment herself. She doesn't feel that she is an Icon or Legend and that's what I find so endearing about her. With success like hers most artist would throw it in your face. She doesn't!

but it can be frustrating for her fans at times. its like her accomplishments are overlooked until these anniversary write ups come along and reminds everybody.its great to have folks like jimmy jam and missyelliot on twitter,they are card carrying fan club members lol

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Reply #34 posted 09/19/14 4:59pm

lowkey

purplethunder3121 said:

So, when's that new album coming out? lol

who knows. there was one rumor from a uk source saying she was planning to release something around christmas timebut of course nobody confirmed it

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Reply #35 posted 09/19/14 7:56pm

mjscarousal

BlackCat1985 said:

As a long time Janet fan I have always felt that Janet didn't really feel the need to be famous. Had Control not have been successful I truly believe that Janet would have been happier living a life like her older sister Rebbie. You never see Janet brag are really compliment herself. She doesn't feel that she is an Icon or Legend and that's what I find so endearing about her. With success like hers most artist would throw it in your face. She doesn't!

At the end of the day she is still an artist whether she is famous or not and she still has fans that want to hear music from her. She could at least do a anniversary special or make a behind the scenes special on her iconic albums even if she didn't want to make anymore music. You have to keep your fans entertained otherwise they will lose interest.

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Reply #36 posted 09/19/14 8:03pm

Scorp

She is retired.....it's over

she knows the music industry is toast.....

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Reply #37 posted 09/19/14 8:38pm

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LONELY is one of my favorite Janet ballads of all time. Such an underrated track.

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Reply #38 posted 09/20/14 6:14am

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duccichucka said:

Janet Jackson owning the masters to her A&M recordings can't be true: why in the hell would

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis give her 100% of the copyrights to songs they wrote? Either they

are kind hearted souls or unbelievably stupid.

Master recordings & publishing/copyrights are two different things. That's why you don't have to get permission to remake a song, but you do to sample a song. Jam and Lewis have nothing to do with masters to songs they produced or wrote. They belong to the record company. Jam & Lewis are workers for hire. Jam & Lewis owning the publishing is irrelevant to the masters. It's Janet's records, not theirs. Just like the stuff Jam & Lewis did for Human League would not go to them. If the masters were given back, they would go to the act, not the writers or producers. For example, Paul McCartney owns the publishing to Buddy Holly songs & some Broadway showtunes and Michael Jackson owns the publishing to songs by many writers and acts including songs Paul wrote for The Beatles and Elvis Presley songs too. But Paul and Mike do not own the master recordings to any of the songs. There are cases where a producer can own the masters, if the act is signed to a production company, and not directly to a label. In a few cases the act owns owns the masters and lease them to labels like Genesis (except the 1969 album) and Motley Crue.

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Masters do not automatically go back to the act. They have to put in a request or take the label to court after the time is up. The label can fight the act. It also depends on what kind of contract the act had. Some of Sam Cooke's masters belong to RCA/Sony and the others belong to ABKCO. None belong to Sam's estate.


Thanks for clearing that up for me.

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Reply #39 posted 09/20/14 6:17am

duccichucka

lowkey said:

duccichucka said:


What?

This is crazy, Carousal. You can't dispute history; and Janet Jackson is a historically significant

recording artist. The music business could not blot her name out of the record books. Her

legacy as a seminal recording artist is safe. What. . . you guys want her to go on musically into

infinity? At some point, the circus drops the big tent and shuts it down.

A reason why she does not produce tour DVDs, remastered albums, unreleased songs, etc. could

be because there is no overwhelming demand for them, despite the clamoring from her hard core

fans.


what she said is very true, the media tries very hard to erase janet's place in pop music history.tour dvd's and things like that are for the fans,that goes for any artist.people are starting to notice and write about the revisionist history directed at janet's career.


Nah, I think the idea that the media is sabotaging Janet Jackson's legacy is unfounded. There's

nothing that indicates this is truthful - notice how none of you can provide an example of

how this is the case.

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Reply #40 posted 09/20/14 7:15am

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duccichucka said:



lowkey said:




duccichucka said:




What?

This is crazy, Carousal. You can't dispute history; and Janet Jackson is a historically significant


recording artist. The music business could not blot her name out of the record books. Her


legacy as a seminal recording artist is safe. What. . . you guys want her to go on musically into


infinity? At some point, the circus drops the big tent and shuts it down.


A reason why she does not produce tour DVDs, remastered albums, unreleased songs, etc. could


be because there is no overwhelming demand for them, despite the clamoring from her hard core


fans.




what she said is very true, the media tries very hard to erase janet's place in pop music history.tour dvd's and things like that are for the fans,that goes for any artist.people are starting to notice and write about the revisionist history directed at janet's career.




Nah, I think the idea that the media is sabotaging Janet Jackson's legacy is unfounded. There's


nothing that indicates this is truthful - notice how none of you can provide an example of


how this is the case.



Lol! Have you not been paying attention the last 10 years?
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Reply #41 posted 09/20/14 7:36am

Scorp

BlackCat1985 said:

duccichucka said:


Nah, I think the idea that the media is sabotaging Janet Jackson's legacy is unfounded. There's

nothing that indicates this is truthful - notice how none of you can provide an example of

how this is the case.

Lol! Have you not been paying attention the last 10 years?

amen

the indutry knows compared to 1814

the majority of the music being cranked out by contemporary female artists and music in general is trash......

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Reply #42 posted 09/20/14 10:00am

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BlackCat1985 said:

duccichucka said:


Nah, I think the idea that the media is sabotaging Janet Jackson's legacy is unfounded. There's

nothing that indicates this is truthful - notice how none of you can provide an example of

how this is the case.

Lol! Have you not been paying attention the last 10 years?

Exactly. Janet is the reason half these new pop chicks even have careers, and yet you barely see her mentioned in pop artist countdowns, or mentioned as the one who opened the doors for your Britneys, your Gagas, and Beyonces and your Ciaras, etc. The biggest and most obvious one of all is that, in seven years of elligibility, she hasn't garnered even one RNR HOF nomination, nevermind the fact that she's not even in there.

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Reply #43 posted 09/20/14 10:21am

alphastreet

Love this album, it is her best start to finish and very consistent in sound, vocals, subject matter, edge, visual imagery etc. I bought it in the late 90's actually but fell in love with it instantly though I already knew the hits, hearing it in full was a different experience. She and the team made even mj turn heads, now that's admirable!!!

I liked reading about the story behind the creation of The Knowledge, that's brilliant. Same with Miss You Much, made me think of how she walked into the room at the beginning of the video, quite like how she did before hitting that musical note.

I do agree she deserves more credit, and it's nice she's getting props for 25 years in quite a few places the last few days. I wonder if this means the album is on the way though I'm okay with or without it. I feel like the older generation who was around and fans give this album way more credit than mainstream or the younger generation of music listeners overall though, and I hope it changes. I recently heard Zendaya was giving it credit to this album so that was nice to hear about.

Everyone says it was the best selling of 1990 and it's interesting hearing about accounts here, but it's also unfamiliar to me cause as others have said, other artists were bigger in different parts of the world at the time this was happening and I am outside the US so I can relate to that. I do remember her being popular though in the 90's and 00's cause that's when I became a huge fan and it's unfortunate the media is downplaying that. I watch old footage of fans, even in the all for you era, people were nuts about her, I can't help but wonder where they all are.

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Reply #44 posted 09/20/14 10:37am

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alphastreet said:

Love this album, it is her best start to finish and very consistent in sound, vocals, subject matter, edge, visual imagery etc. I bought it in the late 90's actually but fell in love with it instantly though I already knew the hits, hearing it in full was a different experience. She and the team made even mj turn heads, now that's admirable!!!

I liked reading about the story behind the creation of The Knowledge, that's brilliant. Same with Miss You Much, made me think of how she walked into the room at the beginning of the video, quite like how she did before hitting that musical note.

I do agree she deserves more credit, and it's nice she's getting props for 25 years in quite a few places the last few days. I wonder if this means the album is on the way though I'm okay with or without it. I feel like the older generation who was around and fans give this album way more credit than mainstream or the younger generation of music listeners overall though, and I hope it changes. I recently heard Zendaya was giving it credit to this album so that was nice to hear about.

Everyone says it was the best selling of 1990 and it's interesting hearing about accounts here, but it's also unfamiliar to me cause as others have said, other artists were bigger in different parts of the world at the time this was happening and I am outside the US so I can relate to that. I do remember her being popular though in the 90's and 00's cause that's when I became a huge fan and it's unfortunate the media is downplaying that. I watch old footage of fans, even in the all for you era, people were nuts about her, I can't help but wonder where they all are.

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There are plenty of fans still nuts for her and she has an amazing amount of young fans in their late teens/early twenties... I saw her perform in 2011 and I must have been one of the oldest in the audience. I spoke to a couple of young fans who were gushing on about her dance skills and how they had waited their whole lives for that one chance to see her at last... smile

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Reply #45 posted 09/20/14 11:00am

Scorp

alphastreet said:

Love this album, it is her best start to finish and very consistent in sound, vocals, subject matter, edge, visual imagery etc. I bought it in the late 90's actually but fell in love with it instantly though I already knew the hits, hearing it in full was a different experience. She and the team made even mj turn heads, now that's admirable!!!

I liked reading about the story behind the creation of The Knowledge, that's brilliant. Same with Miss You Much, made me think of how she walked into the room at the beginning of the video, quite like how she did before hitting that musical note.

I do agree she deserves more credit, and it's nice she's getting props for 25 years in quite a few places the last few days. I wonder if this means the album is on the way though I'm okay with or without it. I feel like the older generation who was around and fans give this album way more credit than mainstream or the younger generation of music listeners overall though, and I hope it changes. I recently heard Zendaya was giving it credit to this album so that was nice to hear about.

Everyone says it was the best selling of 1990 and it's interesting hearing about accounts here, but it's also unfamiliar to me cause as others have said, other artists were bigger in different parts of the world at the time this was happening and I am outside the US so I can relate to that. I do remember her being popular though in the 90's and 00's cause that's when I became a huge fan and it's unfortunate the media is downplaying that. I watch old footage of fans, even in the all for you era, people were nuts about her, I can't help but wonder where they all are.

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just imagine all the other artists who were prominent that year in 1990

MC Hammer

Paula Abdul

New Kids on the Block

Mariah Carey's debut

Vanilla Ice

Milli Vanilli (even though they were lyp synching the whole time)

all those artists, w/MC Hammer selling like wildfire

and Janet stood at the top....

there's no way Rhythm Nation only sold 14 million copies as Billboard has claim

Control sold that much......I'm sure 1814 sold over 20 million copies if she stood above everyone mentioned above.....

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Reply #46 posted 09/20/14 12:23pm

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^Outside the US this album wasn't that big as janet. though, in fact most of the singles charted poorly in the UK. 20 million is definitely unlikely!

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Reply #47 posted 09/20/14 12:42pm

alphastreet

LiveToTell86 said:

^Outside the US this album wasn't that big as janet. though, in fact most of the singles charted poorly in the UK. 20 million is definitely unlikely!




I agree it was mainly North America and Japan where rn did well, janet era was definitely bigger.
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Reply #48 posted 09/20/14 12:44pm

Scorp

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^Outside the US this album wasn't that big as janet. though, in fact most of the singles charted poorly in the UK. 20 million is definitely unlikely!

the UK is not the only country on the planet.... lol lol

She broke attendance records in Japan for a debut solo tour with Rhythm Nation....

Control charted from 1986 to 1987 and sold 14 million

Rhythm Nation remained on the charts for three calender years from 1989 to 1991

she got shunned at the 1990 Grammys when they gave 2 Grammies to Milli Vanilli....best new group, best pop album and had to yank it back from them when they found out they were lyp synching all that time......GIRL YOU KNOW IT'S, GIRL YOU KNOW IT'S.....

don't know why they were so shocked...

I knew the industry was in trouble then........

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Reply #49 posted 09/20/14 12:47pm

mjscarousal

purplethunder3121 said:

alphastreet said:

Love this album, it is her best start to finish and very consistent in sound, vocals, subject matter, edge, visual imagery etc. I bought it in the late 90's actually but fell in love with it instantly though I already knew the hits, hearing it in full was a different experience. She and the team made even mj turn heads, now that's admirable!!!

I liked reading about the story behind the creation of The Knowledge, that's brilliant. Same with Miss You Much, made me think of how she walked into the room at the beginning of the video, quite like how she did before hitting that musical note.

I do agree she deserves more credit, and it's nice she's getting props for 25 years in quite a few places the last few days. I wonder if this means the album is on the way though I'm okay with or without it. I feel like the older generation who was around and fans give this album way more credit than mainstream or the younger generation of music listeners overall though, and I hope it changes. I recently heard Zendaya was giving it credit to this album so that was nice to hear about.

Everyone says it was the best selling of 1990 and it's interesting hearing about accounts here, but it's also unfamiliar to me cause as others have said, other artists were bigger in different parts of the world at the time this was happening and I am outside the US so I can relate to that. I do remember her being popular though in the 90's and 00's cause that's when I became a huge fan and it's unfortunate the media is downplaying that. I watch old footage of fans, even in the all for you era, people were nuts about her, I can't help but wonder where they all are.

[Edited 9/20/14 10:22am]

[Edited 9/20/14 10:23am]

There are plenty of fans still nuts for her and she has an amazing amount of young fans in their late teens/early twenties... I saw her perform in 2011 and I must have been one of the oldest in the audience. I spoke to a couple of young fans who were gushing on about her dance skills and how they had waited their whole lives for that one chance to see her at last... smile

She really does. She has a lot of young fans more than what people give her credit for.

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Reply #50 posted 09/20/14 12:48pm

alphastreet

Scorp said:



alphastreet said:


Love this album, it is her best start to finish and very consistent in sound, vocals, subject matter, edge, visual imagery etc. I bought it in the late 90's actually but fell in love with it instantly though I already knew the hits, hearing it in full was a different experience. She and the team made even mj turn heads, now that's admirable!!!



I liked reading about the story behind the creation of The Knowledge, that's brilliant. Same with Miss You Much, made me think of how she walked into the room at the beginning of the video, quite like how she did before hitting that musical note.



I do agree she deserves more credit, and it's nice she's getting props for 25 years in quite a few places the last few days. I wonder if this means the album is on the way though I'm okay with or without it. I feel like the older generation who was around and fans give this album way more credit than mainstream or the younger generation of music listeners overall though, and I hope it changes. I recently heard Zendaya was giving it credit to this album so that was nice to hear about.



Everyone says it was the best selling of 1990 and it's interesting hearing about accounts here, but it's also unfamiliar to me cause as others have said, other artists were bigger in different parts of the world at the time this was happening and I am outside the US so I can relate to that. I do remember her being popular though in the 90's and 00's cause that's when I became a huge fan and it's unfortunate the media is downplaying that. I watch old footage of fans, even in the all for you era, people were nuts about her, I can't help but wonder where they all are.




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just imagine all the other artists who were prominent that year in 1990



MC Hammer



Paula Abdul



New Kids on the Block



Mariah Carey's debut



Vanilla Ice



Milli Vanilli (even though they were lyp synching the whole time)




all those artists, w/MC Hammer selling like wildfire



and Janet stood at the top....




there's no way Rhythm Nation only sold 14 million copies as Billboard has claim



Control sold that much.....I'm sure 1814 sold over 20 million copies if she stood above everyone mentioned above.....





Actually I heard those artists in 1990, didn't hear janet at all though if I did, I was unaware it was her. If rn sold a large amount, it was definitely not in that year. In the late 90s they were saying janet album was her best selling at 10-15 million worldwide so it's impossible it's that high though it's possible overtime. As I said, it varied around the world, mj and Madonna and among the kids, new kids on the block were still very popular and dangerous had sold way more than rn where I live though in the us, it was almost the same amount
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Reply #51 posted 09/20/14 12:59pm

Scorp

alphastreet said:

Scorp said:

just imagine all the other artists who were prominent that year in 1990

MC Hammer

Paula Abdul

New Kids on the Block

Mariah Carey's debut

Vanilla Ice

Milli Vanilli (even though they were lyp synching the whole time)

all those artists, w/MC Hammer selling like wildfire

and Janet stood at the top....

there's no way Rhythm Nation only sold 14 million copies as Billboard has claim

Control sold that much......I'm sure 1814 sold over 20 million copies if she stood above everyone mentioned above.....

Actually I heard those artists in 1990, didn't hear janet at all though if I did, I was unaware it was her. If rn sold a large amount, it was definitely not in that year. In the late 90s they were saying janet album was her best selling at 10-15 million worldwide so it's impossible it's that high though it's possible overtime. As I said, it varied around the world, mj and Madonna and among the kids, new kids on the block were still very popular and dangerous had sold way more than rn where I live though in the us, it was almost the same amount [Edited 9/20/14 12:49pm]

Her JANET lp sold way more than 10-15 million

that album sold 22-25 million world wide

that album remained on the charts for 3 calender years also and during that period, she starred in Poetic Justice in 93

when she released ANYTIME ANYPLACE a year after its release, that's what really brought it home, and that took it well into 1995

most albums dont' chart that long

by 1993, New Kids were toast, they tried to flash back up as NKOTB

Madonna was walking in oblivion......justifying her love

MC Hammer was about to go gangsta...the funky headhunter in 94

VAnilla Ice went Ninja Turtle and couldn't sell a record.....crash landing

Paula Abdul pretty much stopped making records

Milli Vanilli became Rob and Fab(rice)........done

only person who remained was Mariah Carey

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Reply #52 posted 09/20/14 1:12pm

alphastreet

Scorp said:



alphastreet said:


Scorp said:





just imagine all the other artists who were prominent that year in 1990



MC Hammer



Paula Abdul



New Kids on the Block



Mariah Carey's debut



Vanilla Ice



Milli Vanilli (even though they were lyp synching the whole time)




all those artists, w/MC Hammer selling like wildfire



and Janet stood at the top....




there's no way Rhythm Nation only sold 14 million copies as Billboard has claim



Control sold that much.....I'm sure 1814 sold over 20 million copies if she stood above everyone mentioned above.....





Actually I heard those artists in 1990, didn't hear janet at all though if I did, I was unaware it was her. If rn sold a large amount, it was definitely not in that year. In the late 90s they were saying janet album was her best selling at 10-15 million worldwide so it's impossible it's that high though it's possible overtime. As I said, it varied around the world, mj and Madonna and among the kids, new kids on the block were still very popular and dangerous had sold way more than rn where I live though in the us, it was almost the same amount [Edited 9/20/14 12:49pm]




Her JANET lp sold way more than 10-15 million



that album sold 22-25 million world wide



that album remained on the charts for 3 calender years also and during that period, she starred in Poetic Justice in 93



when she released ANYTIME ANYPLACE a year after its release, that's what really brought it home, and that took it well into 1995



most albums dont' chart that long



by 1993, New Kids were toast, Madonna was walking in oblivion.....



MC Hammer was about to go gangsta



VAnilla Ice went Ninja Turtle and couldn't sell a record



Paula Abdul pretty much stopped making records



Milli Vanilli became Rob and Fab(rice).....done



only person who remained was Mariah Carey



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I remember mentions of her during janet era though I think it's higher than late 90s for sure now. The rn sales in the same way accumulated overtime too. Madonna was not liked in the us but in canada and around the world was still having hits. I'm not from the US so I'm giving my account of who was popular at the same time in a different context. Also agree new kids were done after 91, but there were dolls of them in 1990 and madonnas come bra became iconic. Janet didn't have a rhythm nation doll though she could have and deserved to, but I'm sure the same fashion effect happened here with that as you talked about on a smaller scale. RN went platinum where I'm at, and over 6 times in the US. Forever your girl outsold control and rn too and paula was more popular as well during rn over here, as well as those washed up rappers lol she was really big during janet era though, and once again during all for you.
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Reply #53 posted 09/20/14 3:00pm

mjscarousal

This is my favorite Janet album and era. Everything about it was really original and daring for a female pop artist at the time. I love that she became a super star singing about political issues while fully clothed. I notice artists like Janelle Monae tries to replicate this formula but nobody can top Janet when she did it. This era and album is the essential blue print of a female pop star Icon. She did not allow her record label to control her and was not intimated by her older brother. She became a super star in her own right and I love and respect her for it! This is a solid album and I love all the songs on it. My favorite music videos are Alright, Miss You Much, The Knowledge and Rhythm Nation.

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Reply #54 posted 09/20/14 3:06pm

Scorp

mjscarousal said:

This is my favorite Janet album and era. Everything about it was really original and daring for a female pop artist at the time. I love that she became a super star singing about political issues while fully clothed. I notice artists like Janelle Monae tries to replicate this formula but nobody can top Janet when she did it. This era and album is the essential blue print of a female pop star Icon. She did not allow her record label to control her and was not intimated by her older brother. She became a super star in her own right and I love and respect her for it! This is a solid album and I love all the songs on it. My favorite music videos are Alright, Miss You Much, The Knowledge and Rhythm Nation.

biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

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Reply #55 posted 09/20/14 6:15pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Wow!!!!!

clapping

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #56 posted 09/20/14 6:43pm

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Scorp said:

LiveToTell86 said:

^Outside the US this album wasn't that big as janet. though, in fact most of the singles charted poorly in the UK. 20 million is definitely unlikely!

the UK is not the only country on the planet.... lol lol

She broke attendance records in Japan for a debut solo tour with Rhythm Nation....

Control charted from 1986 to 1987 and sold 14 million

Rhythm Nation remained on the charts for three calender years from 1989 to 1991

she got shunned at the 1990 Grammys when they gave 2 Grammies to Milli Vanilli....best new group, best pop album and had to yank it back from them when they found out they were lyp synching all that time......GIRL YOU KNOW IT'S, GIRL YOU KNOW IT'S.....

falloff falloff falloff falloff

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Reply #57 posted 09/20/14 6:44pm

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mjscarousal said:

This is my favorite Janet album and era. Everything about it was really original and daring for a female pop artist at the time. I love that she became a super star singing about political issues while fully clothed. I notice artists like Janelle Monae tries to replicate this formula but nobody can top Janet when she did it. This era and album is the essential blue print of a female pop star Icon. She did not allow her record label to control her and was not intimated by her older brother. She became a super star in her own right and I love and respect her for it! This is a solid album and I love all the songs on it. My favorite music videos are Alright, Miss You Much, The Knowledge and Rhythm Nation.

thumbs up!

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Reply #58 posted 09/20/14 7:06pm

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Kim Fields dressed as a RN-era Janet in an episode of "Living Single"

Keri Hilson paid tribute to the RN video in her "Pretty Girl Rock" video

RN novelty

RN "Hello Kitty"

Fan dressed in RN garb

impersonator dressed as a RN-era Janet

fan wearing a RN tour jacket

RN-era comic book

Rihanna in Rhythm Nation-esque garb

RN Mickey Mouse

RN wax statue at London's Rock Circus

Cookie Johnson giving Rhythm Nation realness at a 2013 Halloween party

Drag performer Coco Montrese as a Rhythm Nation-era Janet on RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE

The late Selena in a Rhythm Nation outfit (she loved Black Cat)

Nasty/Rhythm Nation performed on GLEE









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Reply #59 posted 09/21/14 1:01am

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LiveToTell86 said:

^Outside the US this album wasn't that big as janet. though, in fact most of the singles charted poorly in the UK. 20 million is definitely unlikely!

the UK is not the only country on the planet.... lol lol

She broke attendance records in Japan for a debut solo tour with Rhythm Nation....

Control charted from 1986 to 1987 and sold 14 million

Rhythm Nation remained on the charts for three calender years from 1989 to 1991

she got shunned at the 1990 Grammys when they gave 2 Grammies to Milli Vanilli....best new group, best pop album and had to yank it back from them when they found out they were lyp synching all that time......GIRL YOU KNOW IT'S, GIRL YOU KNOW IT'S.....

don't know why they were so shocked...

I knew the industry was in trouble then........

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UK is the 2nd biggest market for English-singing acts and RN1814 wasn't huge in the rest of Europe either. For a long time the best estimate for worldwide sales was doubling the amount she sold in the US so that would be 14 million. RN1814 is never mentioned among the best selling albums worldwide, janet. is because of That's The Way Love Goes & Whoops Now that were big hits in markets where Janet wasn't so huge in the 80s.

Anyway, I just listened to the album and it's still awesome, definitely one of a kind and current acts could only dream of recording something like this!

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