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Thread started 09/19/14 3:03am

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Lawsuit: Cher fired dancers for reporting alleged sex assault on tour

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2761076/Cher-sued-choreographer-claiming-racial-discrimination-working-Dressed-To-Kill-tour.html

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Reply #1 posted 09/19/14 8:31pm

SoulAlive

Cher 'sued by choreographer claiming racial discrimination' after working on her Dressed To Kill tour

By MAILONLINE REPORTER

Cher is allegedly being sued by a choreographer who is claiming racial discrimination.

TMZ reports that Kevin Wilson’s attorney has filed a lawsuit against the singer, alleging that she told him there were too many black dancers on her tour.

Wilson claims he said to Cher that there was a ‘minority female dancer’ who he wanted to cast during auditions for her Dressed To Kill tour.


Shocking claims: According to TMZ, Kevin Wilson alleges that Cher told him there were too many black dancers on her tour

He alleges the 68-year-old replied: ‘We have too much color on stage.’

Wilson goes on to allege in the lawsuit obtained by TMZ that he was told to ‘not cast anymore dark skinned black dancers on the tour’ and instead find someone white and blonde.

The choreographer additionally claims that he was fired alongside two other people for speaking out about a male dancer who allegedly became sexually aggressive with a female fan following a concert in Louisville in June.

Wilson alleges that the dancer in question remained in the tour. He is claiming racial discrimination and retaliation in the lawsuit.

The choreographer states the three people who were fired were told it was due to budget cuts, but TMZ reports that the tour has grossed an impressive $54.9million.

Cher's representative told MailOnline: 'These accusations are ridiculous... Couldn’t be further from the truth.'

The website reports that Cher’s lawyer states the alleged racial comment is ‘untrue and categorically denied. To attribute such a statement to Cher is absurd.’

Cher finished the first leg of her tour in July, and will start the second leg next month, which begins in Toronto, Canada and then travels through the United States, finishing in New York City in December.


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Reply #2 posted 09/19/14 10:56pm

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Cher = Paula Deen

Assemble the mob, I'll bring the pitchforks.

mad stfu mad mad mad mad stfu mad mad

[Edited 9/19/14 22:59pm]

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Reply #3 posted 09/20/14 10:35am

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I actually don't think it's that far fetched that she would say that thinking it's not a big deal. Having black dancers and dancers of other races is not a good enough reason to say she would never say that, it's not that different from saying "I'm not a racist, I have black friends" type of thing. I feel like people commenting on the article I read on this a few days are excusing her comments easily, and it's problematic that most of them are complaining about the race card. I don't know if it actually happened, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it's true, it happens all the time in the music industry and in real life and people excusing it simply don't want to admit it's still an issue.

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Reply #4 posted 09/20/14 11:06am

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alphastreet said:

I actually don't think it's that far fetched that she would say that thinking it's not a big deal. Having black dancers and dancers of other races is not a good enough reason to say she would never say that, it's not that different from saying "I'm not a racist, I have black friends" type of thing. I feel like people commenting on the article I read on this a few days are excusing her comments easily, and it's problematic that most of them are complaining about the race card. I don't know if it actually happened, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it's true, it happens all the time in the music industry and in real life and people excusing it simply don't want to admit it's still an issue.

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I agree.

I never really liked Cher. She seems like a stuck up bitch and the type of person who feels like they are entitled to say what they want because of who they are.

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Reply #5 posted 09/20/14 11:46am

alphastreet

Sounds about right though she's talented and I crack up at some of her tweets. I like her as an artist and saw her in person in the 90s but she wasn't very nice to fans. Someone with an illness who had travelled to see her was trying to get her autograph and grab her attention. When she finally looked her way and heard her say all that, she just went "oh" and didn't care and the fan was pissed. It was crowded and all so would have been hard, but I was used to hearing about janet and mj never turning down autographs and going the extra mile for when someone wasn't well, plus I was much younger so thought all pop stars were like them but was learning that's not true. Had also heard a rumour Cher was signing autographs and got mad when the ray of light album started playing at virgin megastore
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Reply #6 posted 09/20/14 11:53am

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alphastreet said:

I actually don't think it's that far fetched that she would say that thinking it's not a big deal. Having black dancers and dancers of other races is not a good enough reason to say she would never say that, it's not that different from saying "I'm not a racist, I have black friends" type of thing. I feel like people commenting on the article I read on this a few days are excusing her comments easily, and it's problematic that most of them are complaining about the race card. I don't know if it actually happened, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it's true, it happens all the time in the music industry and in real life and people excusing it simply don't want to admit it's still an issue.

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And even if she said it, so what?? It's her show. She's the boss. She's footing the bill. And if she wants to have a diverse array of dancers and feels that there are too many black dancers in her troupe, she's well within her right to say so. Actors and dancers are hired for ability and a certain look. And being black, white, yellow or whatever is a "look" too. Would he have sued if she would have told him that she wants one more male dancer, instead of a female dancer??

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Reply #7 posted 09/20/14 12:06pm

alphastreet

It's not just about what she wanted, it's about how she went about it and said something in a politically incorrect way. She grew up in a different time where people talked like that and didn't get called out though it was unacceptable anyways, and now she is getting called out cause more people are aware it happens, but are not doing anything to change it. I wouldn't expect someone from a position of privilege to understand right away but to at least be open and make an effort to understand where it's coming from instead of making excuses for her or anybody else.
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Reply #8 posted 09/20/14 12:13pm

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Geez. And what is a political correct way? It's a sad world, when people are not even allowed anymore to say what they want to say, because some fool might get their feeling hurt. "We got too much color on stage" is a nice way to say what she wanted to say. Again. She's the boss, not some fucking choreographer.

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Reply #9 posted 09/20/14 12:18pm

alphastreet

PatrickS77 said:

Geez. And what is a political correct way? It's a sad world, when people are not even allowed anymore to say what they want to say, because some fool might get their feeling hurt. "We got too much color on stage" is a nice way to say what she wanted to say. Again. She's the boss, not some fucking choreographer.



Definitely not a choreographer, just racist though it's not completely her fault as I've already stated. If she said that and somebody felt they were being harassed, I would say that's grounds for discrimination on the job is it not?
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Reply #10 posted 09/20/14 12:26pm

mjscarousal

alphastreet said:

It's not just about what she wanted, it's about how she went about it and said something in a politically incorrect way. She grew up in a different time where people talked like that and didn't get called out though it was unacceptable anyways, and now she is getting called out cause more people are aware it happens, but are not doing anything to change it. I wouldn't expect someone from a position of privilege to understand right away but to at least be open and make an effort to understand where it's coming from instead of making excuses for her or anybody else. [Edited 9/20/14 12:08pm]

Great Post!!!!

She could have said, " I would like more diversity among the dancers" or a statement that was more professional. All cultures and people generally don't take everything the same way. Just because she might have thought it was funny or casual doesn't automatically mean everyone is going to think that as well but then again that goes back to how she was raised like you mentioned. When it comes to race and culture you really have to be careful how you word certain things. Once again, Cher is stuck up and feels entitled, glad the young choreographer called her out.

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Reply #11 posted 09/20/14 12:33pm

alphastreet

mjscarousal said:



alphastreet said:


It's not just about what she wanted, it's about how she went about it and said something in a politically incorrect way. She grew up in a different time where people talked like that and didn't get called out though it was unacceptable anyways, and now she is getting called out cause more people are aware it happens, but are not doing anything to change it. I wouldn't expect someone from a position of privilege to understand right away but to at least be open and make an effort to understand where it's coming from instead of making excuses for her or anybody else. [Edited 9/20/14 12:08pm]

Great Post!!!!



She could have said, " I would like more diversity among the dancers" or a statement that was more professional. All cultures and people generally don't take everything the same way. Just because she might have thought it was funny or casual doesn't automatically mean everyone is going to think that as well but then again that goes back to how she was raised like you mentioned. When it comes to race and culture you really have to be careful how you word certain things. Once again, Cher is stuck up and feels entitled, glad the young choreographer called her out.



Thank you! That's exactly what I was going to suggest, it was not done tactfully and she could have been diplomatic and sensitive.
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Reply #12 posted 09/20/14 4:32pm

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PatrickS77 said:

alphastreet said:

I actually don't think it's that far fetched that she would say that thinking it's not a big deal. Having black dancers and dancers of other races is not a good enough reason to say she would never say that, it's not that different from saying "I'm not a racist, I have black friends" type of thing. I feel like people commenting on the article I read on this a few days are excusing her comments easily, and it's problematic that most of them are complaining about the race card. I don't know if it actually happened, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it's true, it happens all the time in the music industry and in real life and people excusing it simply don't want to admit it's still an issue.

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And even if she said it, so what?? It's her show. She's the boss. She's footing the bill. And if she wants to have a diverse array of dancers and feels that there are too many black dancers in her troupe, she's well within her right to say so. Actors and dancers are hired for ability and a certain look. And being black, white, yellow or whatever is a "look" too. Would he have sued if she would have told him that she wants one more male dancer, instead of a female dancer??

So what? You're saying white people can't play slaves in movies about the 1800's?

Cher = Paula Deen

Maintain the rage.

mad

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Reply #13 posted 09/20/14 5:19pm

SoulAlive

hmmm

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Reply #14 posted 09/20/14 6:06pm

SoulAlive

PatrickS77 said:

And even if she said it, so what?? It's her show. She's the boss. She's footing the bill. And if she wants to have a diverse array of dancers and feels that there are too many black dancers in her troupe, she's well within her right to say so. Actors and dancers are hired for ability and a certain look. And being black, white, yellow or whatever is a "look" too. Would he have sued if she would have told him that she wants one more male dancer, instead of a female dancer??

She didn't have to bring race into it at all.She could have simply watched the rehearsals and picked the dancers that SHE wanted.Why hurt people's feelings and turn this into an unnecessary scandal?

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