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Thread started 09/14/14 3:24pm

SEXYMOFO

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Will guitar music ever come back?

It seems like guitar music is completely dead in the mainstream. Probably the worst state it's ever been in. This has been the case from the late 2000s to now.

Do you think it will ever be popular again like it was in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s?

What has caused it's decline?
I think rock music lost its swagger, became too mopey and lost musicianmanship.

Or has everything that can be done with a guitar, bass and drum been done already?
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Reply #1 posted 09/14/14 3:36pm

FindingMyself

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SEXYMOFO said:

It seems like guitar music is completely dead in the mainstream. Probably the worst state it's ever been in. This has been the case from the late 2000s to now.

Do you think it will ever be popular again like it was in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s?

What has caused it's decline?
I think rock music lost its swagger, became too mopey and lost musicianmanship.

Or has everything that can be done with a guitar, bass and drum been done already?


Now you're talking real talk. I love going to old SKool concerts because they really put on a show.When Prince,Parliament Funkedelic,Michael Jackson R.I.P Janet Jackson, Larry Graham,Shelia E, just 2 name a few put on a show they give us our money worth.You don't know which way 2 look. Your eyes are on the lead singer and the musicians.Boy I love the guitar. I'm a female that always wanted to learn how 2 play. I wrote a song called, Ain't no party like a old SKool party! Well old SKool every come back, I hope so! This should have been my new thread! Lol
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Reply #2 posted 09/15/14 1:21pm

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Sadly I think the classic guitar based rock sound is going down the same path as the brassy big band jazz sound of the 30's and 40's. Both styles/instruments were a colossal part of every kind of music in their day, bordering on being the only 'sound' on the airwaves, but the next BIG sound gradually stepped in.

It won't go away completely, and it will experience a revival movement, but it won't ever hold the position it held in the 60's/70's as THE sound.

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Reply #3 posted 09/15/14 1:53pm

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Guitar rock really became popular with baby boomers and they're getting up in age, so their music lost it's popularity mainstream wise, just like their parents' Bing Crosby, Percy Faith, & Andrews Sisters music died off in the charts and replaced by rock. Rap is the rock music of today's generation. The radio generally doesn't go back to a sound popular in the past. R&B stations used to play blues singers in the 1950s, but when was the last time a blues performer was played on a hit R&B station or anything that sounds like the blues? There used to be AOR stations that played rock music, but most of them are gone just like the easy listening stations bit the dust in the 1990s.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #4 posted 09/15/14 3:40pm

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Jagar said:

Sadly I think the classic guitar based rock sound is going down the same path as the brassy big band jazz sound of the 30's and 40's. Both styles/instruments were a colossal part of every kind of music in their day, bordering on being the only 'sound' on the airwaves, but the next BIG sound gradually stepped in.

It won't go away completely, and it will experience a revival movement, but it won't ever hold the position it held in the 60's/70's as THE sound.

This is my view as well. Being in a rock band will one day be seen the way being in a Dixieland band is seen today.

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Reply #5 posted 09/15/14 4:00pm

lrn36

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Here's some guitar for you.

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Reply #6 posted 09/15/14 4:00pm

lrn36

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[Edited 9/15/14 16:00pm]

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Reply #7 posted 09/15/14 4:07pm

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There's a white boy right now who goes by the name "Reignwolf" who is a really good guitar

player and a helluva singer. Check him out:

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Reply #8 posted 09/15/14 4:15pm

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I love proper Rock music, mostly the harder Blues based ROck guitars. Indie Rock however is one of the most boring, samey kinds of music around and is ridiculously popular among my generation. I personally think that killed any pure joy in the instrument.

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Reply #9 posted 09/15/14 9:20pm

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Ellie said:

I love proper Rock music, mostly the harder Blues based ROck guitars. Indie Rock however is one of the most boring, samey kinds of music around and is ridiculously popular among my generation. I personally think that killed any pure joy in the instrument.

Douchebags ruined folk, and now they're ruining rock mad

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Reply #10 posted 09/16/14 5:32am

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One can only hope!!
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Reply #11 posted 09/16/14 5:57am

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I agree that the golden age of guitar-based popular music was the 50's, 60's and early 70's...(eletric blues, Rock & Roll, surf, british invasion and hard-rock)

guitar music was already in sharp decline in the 80's, with the rise of synths, and though hair-metal was extremely popular from 1984 to 1990, deep down everyone knew that hair-metal was the ugly decline in terms of quality, a bastardization of things that had already been done before (mostly Hendrix and Zeppelin)

of course, for a time (80's mostly) heavy-metal seemed the future of guitar-based music, but the genre collapsed as well due to multiple outside influences (rap and techno, mostly) and the new extreme sounds, simple riffs and nonsense lyrics of the new bands...(90's and beyond)

also, there were the alternative rock bands, a subgenre that only made sense when it was TRULY alternative and underground (80's); when it became mainstream, it devolved into the new, well...the new mainstream (same thing happened to punk), and you know what happens with the mainstream: people lose interest, quickly...

perhaps, as Jagar said, genres are not supposed to last long; perhaps humanity (as a whole) can only create masterpieces with the same instruments for a relatively brief period of time (3 decades tops?),...there won't be a new Mannish Boy, a new Johnny B. Goode, a new Fun Fun Fun, a new Satisfaction, a new Voodoo Child, or a new Stairway to Heaven, that's for sure...

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Reply #12 posted 09/16/14 10:09am

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Don't know if it will come back in the U.S.--Chicago native Jean-Paul Bourelly has been ripping it up on guitar for 30 years, mixing Rock, Jazz, Blues, AfroPop, Hip Hop, etc---but really nobody pays attention, except other musicians. He has to release his music in Europe and Japan...

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" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #13 posted 09/16/14 11:39am

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JoeTyler said:

I agree that the golden age of guitar-based popular music was the 50's, 60's and early 70's...(eletric blues, Rock & Roll, surf, british invasion and hard-rock)



guitar music was already in sharp decline in the 80's, with the rise of synths, and though hair-metal was extremely popular from 1984 to 1990, deep down everyone knew that hair-metal was the ugly decline in terms of quality, a bastardization of things that had already been done before (mostly Hendrix and Zeppelin)



of course, for a time (80's mostly) heavy-metal seemed the future of guitar-based music, but the genre collapsed as well due to multiple outside influences (rap and techno, mostly) and the new extreme sounds, simple riffs and nonsense lyrics of the new bands...(90's and beyond)



also, there were the alternative rock bands, a subgenre that only made sense when it was TRULY alternative and underground (80's); when it became mainstream, it devolved into the new, well...the new mainstream (same thing happened to punk), and you know what happens with the mainstream: people lose interest, quickly...



perhaps, as Jagar said, genres are not supposed to last long; perhaps humanity (as a whole) can only create masterpieces with the same instruments for a relatively brief period of time (3 decades tops?),...there won't be a new Mannish Boy, a new Johnny B. Goode, a new Fun Fun Fun, a new Satisfaction, a new Voodoo Child, or a new Stairway to Heaven, that's for sure...


[Edited 9/16/14 6:02am]




Well said, never agreed that much about something smile clapping clapping
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Reply #14 posted 09/16/14 11:48am

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The guitar will never go away because it is the easiest instrument to pick up; basically as soon as a toddler's hands are working, they can start to learn guitar. guitar

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Reply #15 posted 09/16/14 12:02pm

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Cinny said:

The guitar will never go away because it is the easiest instrument to pick up; basically as soon as a toddler's hands are working, they can start to learn guitar. guitar

I don't think anyone said the guitar was totally going away, but that guitar rock is losing mainstream popularity on the Top 40. Country music still has guitar and is not really electronic based like a lot of Top 40. Some country acts popular now have some influence from classic rock groups with country elements like Poco & The Eagles. There is the newish "hick hop", but I think that is still somewhat underground and is not on country radio. Some of the hick hop still has instruments rather than samples.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #16 posted 09/16/14 9:04pm

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Cinny said:

The guitar will never go away because it is the easiest instrument to pick up; basically as soon as a toddler's hands are working, they can start to learn guitar. guitar

If you say this one more time... I'm gointgto attempt to drive and play the guitar in your hood. lol

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Reply #17 posted 09/17/14 6:55am

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Rock was still big in the 80s and 90s.

You had bands like Guns N Roses, Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen, Def Leppard, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Oasis, U2, Radiohead selling huge numbers of albums.
Purple Rain, Prince's biggest album was essentially a rock album with synths thrown in.

Then in the late 90s, early 2000s Nu Metal bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park were selling loads as well.

But from late 2000s to now it seems to have disappeared from the mainstream. Don't mention Coldplay because they are Piano pop.
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Reply #18 posted 09/17/14 11:23am

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TD3 said:

Cinny said:

The guitar will never go away because it is the easiest instrument to pick up; basically as soon as a toddler's hands are working, they can start to learn guitar. guitar

If you say this one more time... I'm going to attempt to drive and play the guitar in your hood. lol

evillol while I'm walking home

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Reply #19 posted 09/17/14 11:27am

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I just wished I had learned guitar while I was growing up but I was raised on piano/organ/keyboard.

I guess I'll try to learn guitar on my drive home today. guitar

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Reply #20 posted 09/17/14 7:46pm

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Cinny said:



TD3 said:




Cinny said:


The guitar will never go away because it is the easiest instrument to pick up; basically as soon as a toddler's hands are working, they can start to learn guitar. guitar






If you say this one more time... I'm going to attempt to drive and play the guitar in your hood. lol



evillol while I'm walking home



if I don't have my glasses on, you'd be wise to alert your entire neighborhood.
lol


But don't despaired, http://guitar9.com. A lot of folks are dedicated to playing the guitar.
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Reply #21 posted 09/17/14 9:12pm

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It's, um, back. It's just gone (slightly) underground.

Jack Black, First Aid Kit, Conor Obserst, Wussy, Sturgill Simpson, Jenny Lewis, Withered Hand, Corin Tucker

Open your ears, don't listen to the charts

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Reply #22 posted 09/18/14 6:31am

JoeTyler

MendesCity said:

It's, um, back. It's just gone (slightly) underground.

Jack Black, First Aid Kit, Conor Obserst, Wussy, Sturgill Simpson, Jenny Lewis, Withered Hand, Corin Tucker

Open your ears, don't listen to the charts

who the heck are those? lol

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Reply #23 posted 09/19/14 9:01am

Cinny

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Go see some local bands! Christ, everyone plays guitar.

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Reply #24 posted 09/20/14 4:30am

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Its on its way....not long to wait now! biggrin

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Reply #25 posted 09/20/14 5:56am

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JoeTyler said:

MendesCity said:

It's, um, back. It's just gone (slightly) underground.

Jack Black, First Aid Kit, Conor Obserst, Wussy, Sturgill Simpson, Jenny Lewis, Withered Hand, Corin Tucker

Open your ears, don't listen to the charts

who the heck are those? lol

Great mucicians, who all play guitar

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Reply #26 posted 09/20/14 11:26am

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DaveT said:

Its on its way....not long to wait now! biggrin

NOOOOOO!

They are one of the most bland rock bands I've ever heard.

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Reply #27 posted 09/20/14 4:49pm

Jagar

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MendesCity said:

It's, um, back. It's just gone (slightly) underground.

Jack Black, First Aid Kit, Conor Obserst, Wussy, Sturgill Simpson, Jenny Lewis, Withered Hand, Corin Tucker

Open your ears, don't listen to the charts

[Edited 9/17/14 21:13pm]

Do you mean Jack White? lol

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Reply #28 posted 09/21/14 7:36am

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SEXYMOFO said:

DaveT said:

Its on its way....not long to wait now! biggrin

NOOOOOO!

They are one of the most bland rock bands I've ever heard.

Pop All My Life or Monkey Wrench on your stereo at serious volume, that'll sort you out. Or better yet go see 'em live, the energy they bring is fantastic and pretty much every song is a singalong classic...granted, not exactly Stairway To Heaven, but it'll get you moving.

We dragged a friend along to see them last week in London who thought they were pretty vanilla as well...had the time of his life and has since gone back over their back catalogue with renewed interest.

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Reply #29 posted 09/21/14 7:59am

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DaveT said:

SEXYMOFO said:

NOOOOOO!

They are one of the most bland rock bands I've ever heard.

Pop All My Life or Monkey Wrench on your stereo at serious volume, that'll sort you out. Or better yet go see 'em live, the energy they bring is fantastic and pretty much every song is a singalong classic...granted, not exactly Stairway To Heaven, but it'll get you moving.

We dragged a friend along to see them last week in London who thought they were pretty vanilla as well...had the time of his life and has since gone back over their back catalogue with renewed interest.

I have a lot of respect for Dave Grohl, but Foo Fighters always struck me as being kind of like Foghat. Not in sound, but in status of being solid, but not really 'great'.

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