SeventeenDayze said:

duccichucka said:

How much of your assessment is subjective versus objective? I don't like Beyonce.

I think her voice is unpleasant. She can't dance (to my liking; she's no Janet Jackson).

And I think she's a moron; have you ever listened to her speak? She's inarticulate, a

telling sign, in my book, that she has not read much and ain't the sharpest knife in the

drawer.

But she's marketed ad nauseum because she's a legend already; that is an objective

fact of our reality, I'm afraid. She was m>Time magazine, fer chr

So let's be real herDayzeThe chick is a legend.

It seems like you argue just to be arguing.So, with that said, please forg Thanks.

Um, yes. I happened upon a post that I disagree with. I offer an opinion (Beyonce is a legend)

based upon facts (She has graced the cover of Time magazine, which is historically significant)

and you're throwing a hissy fit?

What's your deal? Someone challenges you and you fold like a lawn chair? If you see the ex-

change I had with Andy, you'll notice that he said something, I countered it, he countered what

I said, and it was pleasant. Stop acting like a wuss and back up your opinions, homie!

duccichucka said:

SeventeenDayze said:

It seems like you argue just to be arguing. So, with that said, please forget that I exist. Thanks.

Um, yes. I happened upon a post that I disagree with. I offer an opinion (Beyonce is a legend)

based upon facts (She has graced the cover of Time magazine, which is historically significant)

Oh please are you serious? Your opinion is just that--an OPINION, your subjective point of view which is hardly based on facts You've got it totally backwards here--Beyonce is not marketed ad nauseum because she "already is a legend." With that kind of logic then that must mean Kim Kardashian is a legend too (after all she's marketed ad nause. and just graced the cover of GQ magazine--she can make covers like Beyonce too!)

Beyonce is marketed ad nausesum because she pays for her publicity and hype machine to make ppl think she is this larger than life "legend" and reading the comments here I see ppl have unfortunately bought into her hype. Look, just because she made the cover of Time magazine doesnt make her a legend. I'm sure there were favor$ exchanged and deal$ made to buy her cover get her put on the cover. So in my book, no, she is not a legend because she hasnt dont anything legendary that will stand the test of time. That is my opinion but go ahead and disagree with it.

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I never understood why for some reason when it comes to Beyonce people can never have an unpopular opinion about her, like she is so above criticism. Its okay to constructively criticize Michael. Its okay to trash Janet. Its okay to criticize Madonna. Its okay to criticize Prince and any other singer but its never okay to critcize. aBeyonce. I don't think stanoopposing posters harighttodicwhat others say on message boards. nce when do you have to be a fan to commentin.a singropiniontidifferent opin

ions iways people can say whatever the hell they want. Its a public forum, people can comment on any thread they want. You can like her and stan for her.... but if other's don't they are entitled to express their opinion also. I am tired of this unfair double standard when it comes to her. There is no right or wrong or even a facts presented in this thread. These are all opinions which everyone is entitled to whether you like them or not.

Orestespragmaticmaxim said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Oh please are you serious? Your opinion is just that--an OPINION, your subjective point of view which is hardly based on facts You've got it totally backwards here--Beyonce is not marketed ad nauseum because she "already is a legend." With that kind of logic then that must mean Kim Kardashian is a legend too (after all she's marketed ad nause. and just graced the cover of GQ magazine--she can make covers like Beyonce too!)

Beyonce is marketed ad nausesum because she pays for her publicity and hype machine to make ppl think she is this larger than life "legend" and reading the comments here I see ppl have unfortunately bought into her hype. Look, just because she made the cover of Time magazine doesnt make her a legend. I'm sure there were favor$ exchanged and deal$ made to buy her cover get her put on the cover. So in my book, no, she is not a legend because she hasnt dont anything legendary that will stand the test of time. That is my opinion but go ahead and disagree with it.

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The thing s....it's ALL business and it's all driven on a lot of manufactured hype and branding. Michael Jackson did the same thing with the screaming and fainting psycho fans

This makes no sense at all. So Michael paid fans to scream and faint at him? This makes absolutely no sense and is completely different from what Beyonce does.

mjscarousal said:

Orestespragmaticmaxim said:

My posts are coming out wacky and then it's not getting me backstage and the cursor is jumping around like a hooked with crabs. But as I was saying.... Its a well known fact also that you're MJ and hise made mtv streferring to him as the king of pop

I thought the King of Pop nickname came from Elizabeth Taylor?

Orestespragmaticmaxim said:

mjscarousal said:

I never understood why for some reason when it comes to Beyonce people can never have an unpopular opinion about her, like she is so above criticism. Its okay to constructively criticize Michael. Its okay to trash Janet. Its okay to criticize Madonna. Its okay to criticize Prince and any other singer but its never okay to critcize. aBeyonce. I don't think stanoopposing posters harighttodicwhat others say on message boards. nce when do you have to be a fan to commentin.a singropiniontidifferent opin ions iways people can say whatever the hell they want. Its a public forum, people can comment on any thread they want. You can like her and stan for her.... but if other's don't they are entitled to express their opinion also. I am tired of thinatfair double standard when it comes toaattacked her. There is no right or wrong or even a facts presented in this thread. These are all opinions which everyone is entitled to whether you like them or not.

And from where I stand it seems like that lack of respect for the next person's opinions on her goes both ways. There's definitely something about this phenomenon we call Beyonce that solicits these string feelings from people whether it be pro or against. . Sadley it oftentimes seems that her biggest detractors are otjrr women who feel a certain pressure....imagined or real.....that they are unexpected to live up to some sorta image that she represents in society, and that immediately reverts them back to13yo girls with feelings of inadequacy . And there crimes that popular cheerleader bitch who everyone in the school adores to remind them

I acknowledge that, so what is the point of this post? If people can express why they like her, why can't people express the opposite? Is this not a music message board? This post comes across childish and judgemental. So women who don't like Beyonce have low self esteem? So women who don't like Beyonce are jealous of her? This post sounds like something a 13 year old girl would write. There are legtimate and rational reasons why some do not care for her and they should be able to freely express that without being called haters or names.

MotownSubdivision said:

It appears we have a passive aggressive Beyonce stan running amuck.

I agree so that's why I'm not gonna engage with them anymore. Not worth it. Willfully contradicted their own opinion and then tries to start beef with people who shared the same opinion that they initially said they had. Troll/stan for sure. I consider them to be permanently ignored at this point.

MotownSubdivision said:

Orestespragmaticmaxim said:

.....and then we can all go back to posting our ridiculous gifs and silly smileys in support of each others brainless comments in peace Once the intruder is dead! [Edited 9/10/14 12:06pm]

You have no right to be saying this.

Don't entertain it, not worth the energy. Some people are just clearly antagonistic. Plenty of us know how to agree to disagree without doing this sort of stupid tactic.

Not if the true legends were to have anything to say about it!

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